IGNITING THE SUSSEX BEACONS

OF UNITY

THE HISTORY OF THE

SUSSEX BRANCHES OF A.S.L.E.F. 



EVERY PICTURE TELLS A STORY 

 One of the main reasons for doing these web sites is to try and explain to everybody the history of the footplate grades, the conditions they had to work in and the creation of the A.S.L.E.F. branches within the Brighton & Sussex area.

I am therefore very grateful for people sending me personal photos from their personal collection and for allowing me to display them on the web sites. But unfortunately what is missing, are the stories that accompany them. What I want to do is to try and remedy this by starting to record the remaining stories that are still out there, before they too are lost in the midst of time.

I have added some information about some of the drivers that I know and the comments that have already have been sent to me.

If you too have any stories about your own working life on the footplate, the people that you worked with and the conditions you had to work in please send me and I will post, on the web site.

If you are interested in helping me in capturing these stories by any means possible please let me know.




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ACCIDENT AT HIGH BROOMS ON THE 23rd MAY 1946

I am trying to find out some information about an accident on the line 

between Tunbridge Wells and High Brooms, which caused the death of 

footplatemen Walter Frederick Roomes, on 23 May 1946.

I am under the impression that his depot was T.W.W.

I am trying to find out the names of the A.S.L.E.F. Branch Secretaries for the Tunbridge Wells Branch and the dates they served between. if you have any info please can you let me know.

A. Leonard c1913, F. Robinson 1931 - 1953, C. Russell 1954, F. Robinson 1955 - 1960,

B. Gower 1961 - 1966, K. Savage 1967 - 1970, D. Dores 1971 - 1972, W. Baldwin 1973 - 1977,

 M. Allen 1978 - 1979, C. Exley 1980 - 1981, J. Carney 1982 - 1985


 

TUNBRIDGE WELLS WEST

D.E.M.U. DEPOT



  This web page is dedicated to all A.S.L.E.F. members who have worked at

             Tunbridge Wells depot over the years, and it features A.S.L.E.F. members who

 brought the trains of Tunbridge Wells to life.

 

 

  Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday January 19th  1964 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The meeting of was opened by Bro. A. Brooker the Chairman our first one being to poor attendance at Branch meetings to elect Branch officers for 1965 they were as follows

Bros. A. Brooker Chairman, Bros. B. Gower Secretary

The only change being is Committee members to that Bro. P. Russell vice Bro. P. Pepper, the rest of the committee remain en-block from 15.7.62.

 Correspondence was then read after which a discussion took place on the service introduced discussion by the management on January 16th 1964 and it was agreed by all members present that it was agreed by all members present that this services sole aim is to reduce still further the passengers using lines due for closure.

The District Council report there being no further business to discuss the meeting was closed at 12.30 p.m.

Members present Bros. R. Dunmall, E. Dunmall, 

R. Comber, P. Russell, B. Gower,

  BRANCH OFFICERS 1964 -65

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BOOKER
ASS. CHAIRMAN. E. DUNMALL
SECRETARY. B. GOWER
ASS SEC. L. STEPHENSON



 *Branch membership total 82

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 11th  1964 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

Bro A. Brooker presiding

The meeting opened by the Chairman who asked for the correspondence to be read this was duly read and it was moved by Bro. Bridger seconded. “That correspondence to be noted.”

Next came the election of  Branch officers for 1965 and it was moved by Bro. Bridger seconded Bro. E. Dunmall that Branch nominatations remain en-block for 1965 with exception that Bro. F Hollands replace Bro. Sulivan Branch Officers for 1965 as follows

Chairman A. Brooker, Vice Chair Chair E. Dunmall, Secretary B. Gower,Assistant Secretary  L. Stephenson

Committee Bros. Saunders, Stephenson, Evans, R. Dunmall, Pepper, E. Dunmall & F. Hollands

Branch Stewarts & Collectors Bros. R. Dunmall & L. Stephenson

The Social Committee report was then given and it was stated by Bro. E. Dunmall that arrangements for the Xmas party were well in hand, bro. R. Bridger also stated that the bank balance was quite good.

The District Council report was then given by Bro. Brooker and covered the following points of interest Double manned trains, proposal from the Society on sick pay and pensions sick  pay to be 2/3 of wages added to existing national health service.

L.D.C. report it was stated that management gave depot strength as 31, the L.D.C. was also involved with future reorganisation of Office staff and centralizating, rosters etc at Essex House. Here are two vacancies on the L.D.C. Bro. Brooker and Dunmall and members were asked to give there support to chose two Branch names.

It was moved by Bro. Bridger seconded Bro. Gower that these two L.D.C. members to be re-elected as official Branch Candiates for L.D.C.

There being no other business to discuss the meeting and closed at 1.0 p.m.

Members present Bros. A. Brooker, B. Gower, E. Dunmall, W. Ovenden, R. Bridger, R. Saunders, & F. Hollands 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 8th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

Bro A. Brooker presiding

The minutes of the previous meeting were read by Bro. Booker and it was proposed by Bro. Bridger and seconded Bro. R. Dunmall that these minutes be a true record.

Correspondence was then read and it was noted that Head Office were continuing there efforts with the management regarding productivity payments for footplate grades, there was also a voting for nominations for the 1965 A.A.D. Bro. Rumley nominated Bro. Gower seconded Bro. Blackmore. There being no other nominations, Bro. Gower nominated for the 1965 A.A.D.

The Branch Social Committee report was then given by Bro. Bridger who stated that the cash position was still quite good despite our loss of membership and also payment of wages up the station. It must must also record a vote of thanks for the splendid social evening put on for our retired member Bro. Alfie Simmonds at the Lord Cornwallis.

The District Council report was then read by our Delegate Bro. Brooker which again proved to be of a very informative nature but the Branch was very disturbed to hear of managements proposals re future of Guildford and Nine Elms branches.

The L.D.C. report was then given and it was stated that the L.D.C. were already meeting difficulty due to the re-shuffle of office staff and the partial removal of our shed master, the future of negotiations looks grim.

Before the meeting was closed it was moved by Bro. Blackmore seconded Bro. R. Dunmall. “That a vote of thanks be recorded for Bro. B. Gower re arrangements for Form One interview.

The meeting was closed.

Members present Bros. Brooker, Gower, R. Dunmall, E. Dunmall, Russell, Blackmore, Ovenden, Bridger & Rumley

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 8th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

Bro A. Brooker presiding

The minutes of the previous meeting were read by Bro. Booker and it was proposed by Bro. Bridger and seconded Bro. R. Dunmall that these minutes be a true record.

Correspondence was then read and it was noted that Head Office were continuing there efforts with the management regarding productivity payments for footplate grades, there was also a voting for nominations for the 1965 A.A.D. Bro. Rumley nominated Bro. Gower seconded Bro. Blackmore. There being no other nominations, Bro. Gower nominated for the 1965 A.A.D.

The Branch Social Committee report was then given by Bro. Bridger who stated that the cash position was still quite good despite our loss of membership and also payment of wages up the station. It must must also record a vote of thanks for the splendid social evening put on for our retired member Bro. Alfie Simmonds at the Lord Cornwallis.

The District Council report was then read by our Delegate Bro. Brooker which again proved to be of a very informative nature but the Branch was very disturbed to hear of managements proposals re future of Guildford and Nine Elms branches.

The L.D.C. report was then given and it was stated that the L.D.C. were already meeting difficulty due to the re-shuffle of office staff and the partial removal of our shed master, the future of negotiations looks grim.

Before the meeting was closed it was moved by Bro. Blackmore seconded Bro. R. Dunmall. “That a vote of thanks be recorded for Bro. B. Gower re arrangements for Form One interview.

The meeting was closed.

Members present Bros. Brooker, Gower, R. Dunmall, E. Dunmall, Russell, Blackmore, Ovenden, Bridger & Rumley.

T.W.W. DRIVERS BEING ISSUED THEIR E.P. KEYS  BETWEEN 1961 - 65

AFTER THEY HAD LEARNT D.E.M.U.s


Name                                    Key No.    Date  Issued 

Waghorn, C.                                4065......21.10.1961

Bring, J.                                       4066......21.10.1961

Owens, L.                                    4102......21.10.1961

Benton, A.                                   4104......21.10.1961

Simmons, A.                               4105......21.10.1961

Bartholomew, F.                          3988......04.11.1961

Stiff, W.                                       3989......04.11.1961

Prior, V                                        4001......04.11.1961

Dyer, H.                                       4098......04.11.1961

Ferro, A.                                      4099......04.11.1961 

Francis, I.                                     4072......13.11.1961 

Diplock, F.                                   4073......13.11.1961

Bridger, R.                                   4074......13.11.1961

Ashdown, R.                                4076......13.11.1961

Rumley, V.                                   4079......13.11.1961

Dowel, A.                                    3976......23.12.1961

Savage, K.                                   4041......23.12.1961

Cave, K.                                      4042......23.12.1961

Coombes, R.                                4049......23.12.1961

Harper, R.                                    4725......17.01.1962

Cox, A.                                        4726......17.01.1962

Doherty, A.                                  4270......17.01.1962

Smith, R.                                     4272......17.01.1962

Gower, B.                                    4273......17.01.1962

Pepper, P.                                     4274......17.01.1962

Flatman, M.                                 4275......17.01.1962

Crampton, F.                                4276......17.01.1962

Gent, W.                                      4295......27.01.1962

Nye, D.                                        4296......27.01.1962 

Asprey, R.                                    4297......27.01.1962

Card, A.                                       4298......27.01.1962

Taylor, C.                                     4299......27.01.1962

Ovenden, W.                                4262......10.03.1962

Dunmall, E.                                 4267......10.03.1962

Jeffery, R.                                    4269......10.03.1962

Sullivan, R.                                 4330......10.03.1962

Baldwin, W.                                4338......10.03.1962

Saunders, J.                                 5384......18.01.1964

Rigby, A.                                     5385......18.01.1964

Chalking, G.                                5386......18.01.1964

Stephenson, L.                             5387......18.01.1964

Hollands, K.                                5412......29.02.1964

Gates, T.G.                                  5571......29.02.1964

Kibbey, M.                                  5575......29.02.1964

Francis, E.                                   5576......29.02.1964

Blackmore, H.                             4568......22.09.1964

Hollands, T.                                 5841......14.11.1964

Oakley, A.                                   5846......14.11.1964

Russell, P.                                    5410......08.02.1964

Dunham, R.                                 5414......08.02.1964

Rae, J.                                          5797......16.01.1965

Stabler, K.                                   5796......22.03.1965

Baker, D.                                     5648......26.04.1965


INFORMATION FROM THE E.P. REGISTER OF THE SOUTHERN REGION TRAINING SCHOOL BASED AT STEWART’S LANE   

 Curtsey of Brian Cooke

 

Bob Walls Collection

Vic Rumley

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday May 30th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.


The Branch Chairman opened the meeting by welcoming Bro. Dray of Sectional Council No. 2 who was present to keep us in the regarding picture the redundancies at Tunbridge Wells West.

The minutes of the previous meeting was then read these were moved as a true record by Bro. C. Dunmall seconded by Bro. Bridger.

General Committee meeting report was then given, but we were reminded of the position of June 14th when there would only be 34 men available and it was agreed to discuss this at a future meeting.

L.D.C. Report was given by Bro. Brooker who covered full the L.D.C. Efforts to to illuminate some of the hardships caused by the redundancy and the Branch's thanks are recorded to the L.D.C for the way in which they rose to the occasion and made every effort to fight the management on the position of redundancy at Tunbridge Wells West.

Bro. Dray then gave his report and expressed his regret over the decision of redundancy at our Branch by this outlined some of the problems facing the Union and Sectional Council, he related that by 1967 there would be no Depot at Nine Elms and there would be a possible 150 men redundant; Guildford was affected and it was proposed to freeze the vacancies at these depots to allow a  gradual run down.

Question were then asked by Bros. Stephenson, Blackmore & Savage. Bros, Stephenson and Blackmore regardng their respective moves to Orpington and Tonbridge, and Bro. Savage asked Bro Dray if it were not possible for the redundant men to be carried at Tonbridge until vacancies occurred. Bro. Dray said he would  raise this question with Management.

There being no more questions or business to discuss Bro. Brooker thanked Bro. Dray for his presence who replied that he would be pleased to attend any of our meetings in the future.

It was proposed Bro. Blackmore seconded Bro. Bridger that a vote of thanks be given to Bro. Dray, this was carried Unam.

The meeting was closed at 12.20.

Membes present Bros. R. Bridger, E. Dunmall, Baldwin, R. Dunmall, Oakly, Blackmore, Coomber, E. Francis, Saunders, Card, T. Hollands, Robinson, Chalklin, R. Brown, Kibbey, Savage, Russell, Rumley, Gower & Brooker.

Total 20

Branch Membership 52

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday August 8th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The meeting was opened by the minutes of the previous meeting being read and it was moved by Bro. E. Dunmall seconded Bro Bridger. “That these were a true record.

Correspondence was then read and it was noted that Mrs Francis case had been dealt with by Bro. Pullen and it is recorded that our deepest sympathy goes to Mrs Francis in the death of our member and workmate Bro. Jim Francis. Members also expressed their gratitude to Bro. Pullen in the way he had helped. Mrs Francis

Bro. Bridger then gave the Social Committee report and it was stated that regarding the retired members outing there would be a small charge of 4/6 per member to cover the cost of the tea, the trip arranged was to Herne Bay and Ramsgate.

Bro. Brooker then gave the L.D.C. Report and was questioned on Rest Day Working as to Loan Men from other depots working their Rest Days at Tunbridge Wells West. They were informed that Head Office had been advised of the situation as had Sectional Council.

Members present Bros. Jeffery, Nye, Cavie, Coomber. Diplock, Dunmall, Bridger,

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday September 26th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The meeting was opened by the reading the minutes of the previous meeting and it was moved by Bro. Dunmall seconded by Bro R. Bridger. “That these be a true record.”

Correspondence was then which included a reply from Head Office regarding Bro. Eckersly's transfer to platform duties which was not clear to seniority question. Branch Secretary has written again requesting further details. Also correspondence on the question of lodging allowance for Bros. R. Dunmall and P. Russell and it was stated a reply had been received from Bro. Perry Sectional Council No.2, that the matter would be placed on the agenda of the next meeting of Sectional Council.

Bro. Bridger then gave the Social Committee report and he stated that the outing for the retired members outing was enjoyed by all but the attendance this year was very poor.

District council Report was then given by Bro. Brooker which proved to be of an interesting nature.

There being no other business to discuss the meeting was closed at 12.50 p.m.

Members present Bros. Bridger, Dunmall, Diplock, Gower, Brooker, Rigby & Flatman.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday November 11th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The meeting was opened by the minutes of the previous meeting being and that being no questions on them, they were moved a true record by Bro. R. bridger seconded Bro. E. Dunmall.

Correspondence was then read which included appeal from district Organisations to which the Branch Secretary said he would attempt to sell some of their products.

The L.D.C. Report was then given by Bro. Booker during which it was raised  by the Branch Secretary about the very slack way some drivers were carrying out their duties allowing other person's to do the driving and shunting with no person in the rear cab. L.D.C. Promised to act on this matter, questions were raised on Holiday Roster but these were answered quite clearly by the L.D.C secretary Bro Brooker. Nominations were then asked for due to the termination of office of Bros Brooker and Bridger, it was stated that due to the drop in Depot strength officially they were only two representative allowed. But two nominations were asked for.

The following two members were nominated

Bro. Gower nom Brooker sec K. Savage, Bro. Savage nom Bridger sec E. Dunmall.

The L.D.C. Secretary then read the report on productivity payments and due to the length of the report and questions raised their was insufficient time to finish the report.

The meeting was closed at 1.15 p.m.

Members persent Bros. Bridger, Savage, Dunmall E., Diplock, Ovenden Gower & Brooker.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday December 12th  1965 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The meeting opened was opened by the minutes of the previous meeting being read these were moved a true true record by Bro. E. Dunmall seconded A. Card.

Correspodence was then read which dealt with more information on the productivity and single manning agreements which was noted.

The Social Committee report was given by Bro. E. Dunmall who reported that owing to lack of members and the lack of funds it would not be possible to have a Children's Christmas Party for suggestions made it was decided to try for an outing for the Summer of 66.

Next came nominations and elections for 1966 and the following officers were elected for 1966.

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, 

Vice Chairman Bro. E. Dunmall, 

Secretary Bro. Gower, 

Assistant Secretary G. Chalklin.

Committee Bros. D. Sullivan, A. Card, E. Dunmall, 

W. Ovenden, K. Savage, G. Chalkin & P. Pepper.

District Council Delegate Bro. A. Brooker

Trades Council Bros A. Brooker & R. Bridger

Scrutineers Bros. B. Gower & R. Bridger

There being no other business to discuss the meeting was closed at 1.0 p.m.

Members present Bros. G. Chalklin, A. Card, E. Dunmall, B. Gower & A. Brooker.

 BRANCH OFFICERS 1966

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BOOKER
ASS. CHAIRMAN. E. DUNMALL
SECRETARY. B. GOWER
ASS SEC. G. CHALKLIN



 There being no other business to discuss the meeting was closed at 1.0 p.m.

Members present Bros. G. Chalklin, A. Card, E. Dunmall, B. Gower & A. Brooker.

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday January 25th  1967 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The minutes of last meeting were read and moved “as read” by Bro A. Card seconded by Bro. R. Bridger.

Correspondence was read and treated as information, it was agreed to support Bro. Noakes of Brighton as A.A.D. Delegate, and Bro. J. Renshaw of Ascot & Reading as delegates to T.U.C. Congress 1967.

It was reported by Bro. R. Bridger on behalf of the Social Committee that a C.W.S. Bank balance of £56.0.0., a cash of £10.15  £125 was held.

It was pointed out by Bro. A Brooker that Bro. B. Gower was holding a balance of £26.0.0., held by Mutual Aid and of the members of this Branch.

In the light of the of the above report it was agreed to keep Branch going as separate identity.

It was agreed the following officers retain their positions for 1967.

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker

Branch committee Bros R. Sullivan, A. Card, W. Ovenden, P. Pepper & K. Savage

District Council Delegate Bro. A. Brooker

Trade Council Delegate Bros A. Brooker & R. Bridger.

To take the vacant positions it was agreed that Bro. R. Bridger be Vice Chairman moved by Bro. A. Card seconded by Bro. C. Taylor.

It was  agreed that Bro. Brooker see Bro K Savage  to see if he is willing to accept the Branch Secretary’s position, failing this Bro. A. Brooker to accept those duties short term to the next meeting.

It was agreed that Bros. Bridger and K. Savage be scrutineers for 1967.

Meeting closed at 12.30 p.m.

Members present  Bros. A. Card, C. Taylor, R. Bridger 

& A. Brooker.


 BRANCH OFFICERS 1967 - 69

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BOOKER

ASSIST. CHAIRMAN. R. BRIDGER
SECRETARY. K. SAVAGE




 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 5th  1967 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station.

The minutes of the last meeting was read by the minute Secretary and Bro. C. Taylor moved and Bro. V. Rumley seconded. “That these minutes were a true record.”

Correspondence was then dealt with, and Bro V. Rumleymoved and Bro. F. Diplock seconded, correspondence  on freight bonus be laid on table until District Council report was given by Bro. A. Brooker.

The Chairman Bro. A. Brooker they read a letter from Bro C. Taylor thanking the previous Secretary, Bro. B. Gower for his personal efforts and time given in assisting the Society to being a successful claim on behalf of Bro. C. Taylor’s son’s accident claim.

The Chairman then gave  an L.D.C. report, which included an interesting correspondence with the management on Automatic Half Lighting Barriers which proved eye opening to the members present.

Following this came the report from our member to District Council, Bro. A. Brooker; on the last District Council meeting held on Feb 27th

Some of the items moved by him were the backing of Officers for 1967.

The E.C. Member Bill Williams report, claims for accident etc., Pay & Efficiency proposal by the B.T.C. utilising Trainmen instead of Second men.

Rail closures including 3 Bridges line and further Government proposal; new holiday and overtime rate proposals; single manning, an outline of Fright Bonus; Free Pass Restrictions, the new radio controlled MAFFIA LOCOS, new uniforms and issue proposals.the new pensions Scheme was then clarified very ably by our member and several examples were given for everyone’s benefit.

The being no other business, the Chairman thanked all members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.45 p.m.

Member present Bros. C. Taylor, V. Rumley, F. Diplock, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday April 30th  1967 at 10.45 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the minute Secretary, Bro. Bridger moved and Bro. Rigby seconded. “That these were a true record.

The Branch then recorded their vote for Bro. W.H. Williams Feltham Electric as their candidate for Executive Committee Representative, District No. 1.

Bro. R. Bridger then made a report on behalf of the Social Committee concerning the retirement of Bro. F. Bodkin, also the finances of Social committee, future income and the future commitments . A vote of thanks was recorded for Bro’s A. Card and K. Cavie for their efforts in running a pontoon, which had benefitted the Social Fund to the  fine sum of £176.

The L.D.C. report was then given by Bro. Brooker following a meeting held at Waterloo on April 8th and at Victoria on April 26th. The purpose of these meetings being the new timetable, extra trains units weekdays, less on Saturdays and Sundays, and the staff position for immediate future, a very interesting report.

Following this came the report from the Branch Chairman and minute Secretary on the Public Inquiry Meeting at the Assembly Halls, Tunbridge Wells on  Wednesday, April 26th, 27th , & “28th into the closure of the Lewes to Hurst Green line. A vote of  thanks from the floor was given to the Chairman and Secretary for their coverage of this meeting.

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked all members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 1.0 p.m.

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, A. Brooker, A. Rigby & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday April 30th  1967 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the minute Secretary, Bro. R. Bridger moved and Bro. V. Rumley seconded. “That these were a true record”

Correspondence

The appeal for Driver Guppy to be given over to Bro. Savage to deal with at the pay office.

Bro. Bridger then gave an account of the Presentation to Bro. F. Bodkim, also the letter of appreciation for a jolly fine evening out from Mr. Sutherland and his wife from Brighton, which was appreciated by members of the Social Committee. Bro Bridger stated that the amount of money now held in bank and cash in hand by Social Fund was now £64.5.5.

Bro. Bro. Brooker gave a very full report on District Council, which included items as mileage whilst travelling pass, maintenance of diesels and diesel locomotives, compensation paid out to the sum £52,377 to members for the first six months of 1967, Voluntary wage  ---- Re distributing of Organising service card to be brought up to date, Manning Committee report on Single manning, Rest Day Working, report on Regional percentage, Frieght Bonus report, wages structure, alterations suggest for Machinery of Negotiations, London Allowance and allowance and sickness. Bro. Brooker the read a letter in answer to his letter from E.C. member Bro. W. Williams on closure of line from Hurst Green to Lewes, reduction of staff and future staffing positions.

Bro. Bridger then gave his Trade Council report and stressed the importance of Branch Member taking advantage of work Study Courses proposed by T.U.C.

After this came any other business and the Secretary  was instructed to clarify the position within Head Office of drivers future when requested by station master to not as body guard for the collection of wages and in the event of attack,  a drivers eye sight or health could be jeopardised so as to degrade his present station.

There being no other business the chairman thanked all members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.30.

Members present Bros. V. Rumley, R. Bridger, K. Savage, W. Baldwin & A. Brooker  

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 22nd  1967 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the minute Secretary, Bro. R. Bridger moved and Bro. A. Booker seconded. “That these were a true record

Correspndence was then read  consisting a letter pf thanks from R.S. Rabbetts, Brighton no.1 concerning the amount of £3.2.0. collected for the M Guppy appeal fund.

Nominations of candidates for L.D.C.  It was unanimously agreed, following nominations by Bro. Diplock and seconded by Bro. K. Savage. “That the returning officers Bros. A. Booker and R. Bridger be nominated as the Branch candidates and Bro. K. Savage be elected scruitineer.

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked the members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.30.

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, F. Diplock, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday May 5th  1968 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the minute Secretary,and moved “As Read” by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. V. Rumley.

Before correspondence was then read a vote to be taken of the last meeting had been called  in the interim period, but though impliment weather and lack of support, no quorum could be present to hold these meetings.

Correspondence

letter from General Secretary re support for copy of “Lighted Flame” for own edition.

It was agreed to pay out of branch funds 10/- and donate towards the Social Secretary then states that there was £28.15.9 balance held  by the Mutual Aid Fund of members, if this balance also £ 7.19.0 from branch returns from the political funds, the amounts secretary having instructed to retaining branch funds was

Bro Bridger then reported on behalf of the social funf saying that £6.17.0 had been collected as a retirement.donation to Bro. C. Waghorn and wanted a mandate from the Branch to make up to the agreed minimum amount of £10 from the Social Fund. This was duly given by Branch Members. Bro. Bridger also stated that Bro, Waghorn had declined on health reasons a presentaton. Bro. Ruley  then stated on behalf of the Social Committee that it was hoped in the summer to run the annual outing for our retired staff.

Bro Brooker and Bro. Savage then reported on Redundency Payments and Contracts of Employment Acts Day School which they attended on 28th April at Canterbury.

Bro. Brooker followed this with reports on L.D.C. And A.W.S. Warning system, also that renovation and cleaning of lobby.

On the position of serving branch officers, it was agreed thatt returning offices to be confirmed as at December 1967, Bro. Rumley, volunteering for the Committee making 9 total, and the Secretary asked to approach Bro. F. Diplock to take the Assistant Secretary position.

There being no other business the chairman thanked members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 1o/c p.m.

Members present Bros R. Bridger, V. Rumley, K. Savage & A. Brooker

 

 JUNE 30TH 1968 

ALL BRITISH RAIL STATIONS AND DEPOT CLOSED

THIS SUNDAY, FIRST TIME IN KNOWN HISTORY

As normal Branch meeting place not available, branch Committee meeting held at 10.45 a.m. At Eastlands Road Tunbridge Wells on June 30th . 7 out of 98 members being present. Bro. K. Savage holiday and apology received from Bro. R. Sullivan.

The Chairman opened meeting and explained circumstances of convening and venue of meeting.

H.O. Circulars 45&49/1968 being posted in shed taken as read.

Minutes of Joint Central L.D.C.s meeting of 19/5/68 held at Three Bridges, attended by L.D.C. Chairman and Secretary were read, concern being expressed re probable  redundancy at Three Bridges and other depots also point out that proposed next meeting had been put back from July to September at East Croydon.

Notice sent to L.D.C. From management dated 28/6/68 cancelling sunday June 30th duty Roster was read.

Joint divisional Progressive Committee letter from Bro. B. Noakes A/Secretary asking for comments re setting up of same on S.R. This was thought to be an ill advised venture in light of present B.R.B. Negotations and against the best interest of all drivers. Chairman instructed to reply in the light of the above and other opinions expressed.

Needs to be re photographed

Branch Committee Members present Bros. W. Ovenden, P. Pepper, A. Card, V. Rumley, F. Diplock, A. Brooker, 

& R. Bridger.


*The rail strike lasted 12 days in total and caused massive disruption to the network.

On Friday 5 July 1968 the work-to-rule was called off after the NUR accepted a peace offer from British Rail.

The deal provided pay increases for all the union’s members - 10s a week extra for the lowest paid and three per cent 

extra for all the others.

A.S.L.E.F., who had joined the strike, also reached a settlement with BR and train services returned to normal fairly rapidly. 

As Sunday's were outside of the normal working week, all Sunday turns were cancelled to save money

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday July 21st  1968 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. V. Rumley. “That they were a true record.” 

Questions as agreed subdequently by the Branch Committee Members, that a copy of the of the letter sent to Bro. B. Noakes be sent to Bro. W. Williams, e.C. Member. The Branch also thanke Bro. V. Rumleyfor his fine backcloth exhibited in  in the Tunbridge Wells Public Library re T.U.C. Centenary

needs to be re photographed

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked members for their  attendance and closed the meeting at 12.45.

Members present Bros. F. Diplock, R. Bridger, V. Rumley, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday September 8th  1968 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

It was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. H. Love. “That they were a true record.”

Questions on minutes gave the Branches endorsement to the explanation of Bro. A. Brooker to not progressing as to previous minute at District Council for system other to mileage for basing of the driver's basic rate, also a vote of thanks was given to the branch secretary and head office for the swift and forthright arrival of the 30 year membership badges

Correspondence

Branch membership changes

On the question of the week-end school on Oct. 5th and 6th at St. Leonards-on-Sea; it was proposed by Bro, K. Savage and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger. “That a delegate be sent from the Branch with costs as stated on circular to be paid from branch funds. It was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by H. Love. “That Bro. A. Brooker be elected delegate.” This proposal being called unan.

Reports

Bro. R. Bridger reported on the retired members outing on August 25th, and stated that a good day was had, travelling to Rye and Eastbourne, and then on to Wannock Gardens for tea where the preparation was made to Bro. Waghorn on his retirement, and already two letters of appreciation had been received by retired Bro. L. Evans and   C. Waghorn, respectively. Bro. R. Bridger then gave statement of discount in hand. The Branch then stated their appreciation of the work done by the Social Committee.

Bro. A. Brooker then gave a District Council and L.D.C. Report, after which the branch congratulated Bro. A. Brooker for his success in becoming a member of “ Aunestry of Social Society Tribunal for the West Kent Area.”

On the report of the proposed line closure from Uckfield to Lewes and Ashurst Junction to Groombridge, it was proposed by Bro. K. Savage and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger. “That the following resolution be sent to the Tunbridge Wells Trade Council.

“The Tunbridge Wells Branch of A.S.L.E. & F. wish to express their apprecation of the co-operation and action taken by the “Trades Council in opposing to the closure of the Hurst Green to Lewes line. Whilst not being 100% successful was given to other organisations by the early warning of B.R.B. Intentions, to enable them to organise their own machinery to appose the closure.”

There bring no other business, the Chairman thanked members for their attendance and closed the meeting at 

1 o/c p.m.

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, H. Love, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 2nd 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. V. Rumley. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was then read, largely concerning Pay & Productivity and Transfer & Redundancy payments. 

The Minute Secretary explained to Branch Members, that previous meetings had as to be bye-passed owing to the  flu epidemic and unfortunate indisposition of our Branch Chairman. Therefore Branch officers of 1968 were retained into office for 1969.

Reports

Bro. R. Bridger reported on the collection for retired member F. Elmer and the financial position of the Social Fund being namely £21.12.7 in the bank and £5.6.10½  in hand.

Bro. A. Brooker gave a full report of District council i0ncluding account of Societies ivestnenst totally £12,000, consisting of vickers £2,000,Thorn £5,000 & £5,000, compensation figured at £20,000 for the December quarter and a total in all for 1968 of £85,369.

A new item was the Societies ties being sold at 20/- each; ashtray at 5/- and gas lighter at £3 each.

Sectional Council No.2 will consist of 6 representatives, two for each division for 4004 staff. 

The B.R.B proposals for stage 2 Pay and Productivity, and the fact that there were only 39 retirements pending on the Southern Region for 1969 were explained lucidly by Bro. Brooker.

There being no other business the Chairman closed the meeting at 1 o/c p.m.

Thanking members for their attendance

Members present Bros. F Diplock, R. Bridger, V. Rumley, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday June 1st 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was then read, Appeal for Bro. C. Waterhouse (Sheffield).

On the question of Bro. Waterhouse, it was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock to lay it on the table.

It was proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger. “That the Minute Secretary retain the Branch Fund of £9.12.6. until further banking arrangements could be found.

Reports

Statements of social Committee made by Bro. R. Bridger and a suggestion that other committee members should shoulder the responsibilities of the Social work, with a change of the present officers in mind.

L.D.C. Report

Bro. A. Brooker reported on the staff position, and turns, also shed Staff rest Day roster to cover telephone when Supervisor and rest day, in any Other Business, P.N time at East Croydon, Mess Room Facilities, and  the public Holiday roster were discussed it being recording of public holidays. Unanimously agreed that the present method of Public Holiday Rostering should stand, also the Minute Secretary was instructed to write to Head Office for guidance as to the validity of an Inspector riding with drivers to see that change end procedures are carried out.

There being no other business the Chairman thanked members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 1o/c  p.m.

Members present Bros. H. Love, D. Ward, R. Bridger, F. Diplock, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday September 7th 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

Reports Bro. F. Diplock gave a ful report on discussingon resolution of eath allowance of members; and the outcome of subsidised lines by the government now B.R.B.’s revenue is in the black.

Bro. V. Rumley report on Social Committee stating that on Sunday 14th September the Pensioners were being taken on an Sheffield Park for a trip on the Bluebell, then on to Eastbourne for a meal. He stressed that 21members were going  and that as the funds were getting low, financial assistance has been obtained from members by some source, this would have to be decided upon social meeting after the outing.

L.D.C. Report, Bro. R. Bridger reported on meeting held with management on Shed staff positions, letter from Bro. Eade of London Bridge on committee of 6, state of yard at Tunbridge Wells West and East Grinstead and management’s view. Complaints of alternations to drivers daily returns.

Unsatisfactory Mess Room facilities at various points and the noise on  driving cabs of D.E.M.U.s . it was proposed by Bro. A. brooker seconded by Bro. K. Savage and carried unanimously. “That the letter from Bro. Eade for committee of 6 be laid on table.”

In Any Other Business 

Bro. H. Love requested that extra Sunday chart be put up in case for members benefit as was always past practice, and not in office as was done now. The L.D.C. agreed to bring matter to Supervisor’s attention

There being no other business the chairman thanked members for their attendance and closed the meeting at 

12.50 p.m.

Members present Bros. H. Love, D. Ward, V. Rumley, R. Brooker, F. Diplock, K. Savage & A. Brooker.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 12th 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. D. Ward. “That they were a true record.”

Nominaions for L.D.C.

Bro. A. Brooker and Bro. R. Bridger retiring members. Voting for th two vacancies. Three members were proposed. Bros. A. Brooker, D. Ward & F. Diplock.

The Chairman said that a vote on paper would have to be taken, each member to have two votes, it was then proposed Bro. A. Brooker and seconded by Bro. R.Bridger That a V. Rumley be scrutineer. Results of the voting went as follows. Bro. Brooker 5, Bro. D. Ward 3, & Bro. F. Diplock 4.

Candidates duly elected as official branch nominations Bros. A. Brooker & F. Diplock.

It was agreed that Bro. D. Ward will be the co-opted member in the event of holidays or sickness to present L.D.C. representative.

Bro. V. Rumley moved a vote of thanks to Bro. D. Ward and Bro. Diplock for putting their names forward for L.D.C. which has not happened for a number of years at branch meetings. Proposed Bro. R. Bridger seconded by Bro. H. Love

Reports 

L.D.C. Report Bro. A. Brooker outlined the so called Final Statement of intent. This paper is of little alteration  from the preliminary statement. The meeting held at Redhill on Thursday Octobr 9th 1969 and attended by L.D.C.s from Rehill M.T. & E.M.U.T. Tattneham Corner, Dorking, T. W . W. rejected unanimously the present form of the statement as still un-informative and asking for Secretary Council No.2 and higher management  to meet L.D.C.s.

Bro. Brooker also gave the meeting information on the superannuation and sick pay for the “Established Drivers” which he compiled and way of great value to all concerned.

The Holiday roster was submitted and a lively discussion took place. Bro. A. Brooker explained fully his roster which will commence from the first Sunday in January. He pointed out that the only weeks that may not be acceptable to management may be Christmas week and December 25th, also reported that new duty roster to operate from 5/1/70 and wording  of annual leave minute altered: Motion put to the meeting and carried unanimously Proposed H. Love & seconded W. Baldwin.

Bro. V. Rumley gave his report on the Social Committee the retired members and their wives had an enjoyable day by first visiting the Bluebell line and tun going on to Eastbourne. He stressed the point on the low level of fund and hope that the future will being some form of money spinner to raise funds he wishes to extend his thanks to all concerned for the money raised for the old folk on the outing and that they had their drinks. The sum raise was £4.2.0.

The meeting closed at 12.45 

Members present Bros. Bro. V. Rumley, D. Ward W. Baldwin, R. Bridger, H. Love, R. Brown, A. Brooker 

& F. Diplock.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday November 16th 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. R. Brown. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence 

Letter from W. Eames Selhurst Branch, nomination ballot for Sectional Council No.2 

A good discussion took place in regards for Sectional Council No.2, with finally Bro. W. Eames of Selhurst Branch and Bro. G. Andrews of Norwood becoming the choice from this ~Branch.

Established  needs re photographing

Reports

L.D.C. reported on the New Year roster, the state of Tunbridge Wells West Sidings  and the mess room facilities at East Grinstead.

Bro. A. Brooker gave a full report  fro District Council, covering many items of including suggesting of collections from branches for deceased members, Freight Bonus, freezing vacancies, eventually using of all Diesel Traction on Southern Region the Maiden Crash and call for all members to report defective signals.

Branch Officers for 1970

Bro. A. Card, since joining T.E.S.S.A. created one vacancy on Branch Committee. One vacancy already, thereby creating two vacancies.

Proposed Bro. R. Bridger seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That Bro. W. Baldwin fill one vacancy.”. Carried.

Proposed Bro. Diplock seconded Bro. Baldwin. “That Bro. R. Brown fill one vacancy.” Carried.

Full list of Branch officers for 1970 subject to previous amendments and other officers to return their positions.

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, 

Vice Chairman Bro. R. Brooker, 

Secretary Bro. K. Savage, 

Assistant Secretary Bro. F. Diplock.

Committee

Bros. R. Sullivan, W. Ovenden, R. Brown, Pepper, 

V. Rumley, R. Bridger & W. Baldwin.

 BRANCH OFFICERS 1970

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BOOKER
ASSIST. CHAIRMAN. R. BRIDGER
SECRETARY. K.SAVAGE
ASSISTANT SEC. F. DIPLOCK



 There being no other business, the Chairman thanked the members present for their presence and closed the meeting at 12.55

Members present Bros. W. Baldwin, R. Brown, F. Diplock, R. Bridger A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday February 8th 1970 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger  and seconded by Bro. V. Rumley. “That they were a true record.”

Reports.

L.D.C. 

Moved by Bro. Diplock seconded by  Bro. Brown. “That a letter be sent to Head Office on New Pay Forms re Mileage hours to be shown  separate from Frieght Bonus and Graduate Pension shown as full total paid to date

Moved Bro. Baldwin seconded Bro. Bridger. “That a letter be sent of to Area Shed Master re National Pay Roll to be shown as 4 different rates and not totalled as one, owning to men’s time not easily ascertained under present system.

Moved Bro. V. Rumley seconded Bro. W. Baldwin. “That L.D.C be instructed that an early consultation be obtained from higher management re electric traction and future of this depots future.

The Secretary of the L.D.C. A. Brooker reported on the failure to agree with management  on early posting of Holiday Rosta and the work being done in the matter, Payment of one weeks Holiday Pay prior to Winter Holiday computorism  of time and the system of Pay Checks in private envelopes.

Social Fund Report

Bro. R. Bridger stated that the above Funds consisted of £3.3.11 in the bank  and in 16s. 8d.

Any Other Business 

Bro. Baldwin raised the question of a fairer method to deal with the allocation of emergency work at the Depot for Rest Day Working such as when  a man went sick and  the interested members present instructed the L.D.C. to instruct the Running Foreman that they wished a man who is sent for his rest day and who declines to work is to have the day entered against his name as having worked.”

There being no other business the Chairman thanked members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.50

Members present Bros. W. Baldwin, R. Bridger, F. Diplock R. Brown V. Rumley, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 22nd 1969 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence

Death of General secretary Bro. Griffiths, Bro. R. Bridger proposed and Bro.Baldwin seconded endorsing Branch Secretary action in sending wreath to Bro. Griffiths.

Branch Secretary report telephone call from Bro. Andrews of Norwood and a letter received by L.D.C.  from Bro. Andrews this was excepted as information.

District Council Report from Bro. A. Brooker, again a lucid report from our delegate consisting of items as

Death of General Secretary Bro. A. Griffiths, resignation of District Council Chairman Bro. A. Cowald of Feltham, collections for deceased members, District Council Fund standing at £74.2.6. compenstation as £30,823 paid for December quarter, resulting in a final payment for 1969 of £105,092.

Sectional council election, Industrial Diseases, The 10% claim, uniform, Passenger mileage Bonus, increase for mileage payment not made for A/O unless a shunt is made, new Stock, loss of earnings, claim for mileage lost to be made, Transport Closure, Stage 3 P&E etc.The L.D.C. report consisted of mileage bonus payment, payslips, driver tickets, electrification etc., Complaints of P.W. men not wearing jackets provided.

The minutes past at the last meeting re Rest Days that providing not to be applied if if have previously carried out minute re 3 days.

There being no other business the chairman thanked members present for their attendance and closed the meeting at 13.10.

Members present Bros. H. Love, W. Baldwin, R. Bridger, K. Savage & A. Brooker.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday June 14th 1970 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and as there were no two members from the last meeting to propose and second a true record. Bro. R. Bridger and by Bro. D. Ward. Seconded “The minutes as read.”

Correspondence were read.

Quite a good discussion followed in which several anomalies were ably explained by Bro. Brooker on Long Distance Mileage and Short Distance Passenger Mileage bonus scheme.

The new Superannuation scheme for salaried staff also met with good discussion.

Reports

Bro. A. Brooker in his L.D.C. report dealt with many items including meeting with Mr. Organ and Mr. Greenfield in March, sectional council at Southern house in April. Lighting of buffer stops, also Bay Road platform at Eridge, P.W. safety jackets, claim for extra prep. And disposal times in adverse weather conditions due to bad lighting and walking space between sidings at Tunbridge Wells West, noise on D.E.M.U.s, payment of odd minutes, supply of working late issue. L.D.C. consultative meeting with Sectional council . The Branch chairman then asked for an endorsement from the floor to allow the Branch Secretary to hire a car to tour the main routes of the town should the Sectional Council Representative arriving whilst the Branch Chairman is on annual leave. Carried.

There being no other business the chairman thanked the members for their attendance and brought the meeting to a close at 1.15 p.m.

Members present Bros. D. Ward, F. Diplock, H. Love, R. Bridger, K. Savage & A. Brooker.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday July 26th 1970 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and Bro. F. Diplock seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was read

A good discussion developed over the abolition of Rest Day working and the Society’s policy was ably explained by the Chairman Bro. A. Brooker.

L.D.C. Report

The Chairman dealt with meetings recently held including Working Party Meeting at Redhill on 10th June over turns implicating Norwood, Redhill, Brighton & Stewarts Lane.

Working Party meeting held at Tunbridge Wells 13th July where the chairman and L.D.C. escorted same in Chairman’s car, to show bottlenecks at Road Junction at Tunbridge Wells re visiting of New Station. Working Party meeting held at Essex House 16th July. Notice posted by management over speeds; and reply to same sent by Chairman of L.D.C. of defective speedos and run down of D.E.M.U.s  a further meeting at Tunbridge Wells with Mr. Edwards, Patterson and Ibbotson re future policy of depot where it was stated that it was anticipated to install £7,000 worth of lighting equipment for the future electrification program of Grove Junction to Birchden Junction in phase 1, Stage 1 in the installation of  ------   --------------- for electric units from 1936 to ----- and the closing of Tunbridge Wells West as ----- -----------  when the Hastings line becomes electrified when services would change ------  electrified Depot

A letter had been written by secretary ----- to Head Office on behalf of Bro. P. Pepper 

Needs re – photographing

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked the members for their presence and brought the meeting to a close at 1o/c p.m.

Members present Bros V. Rumley, R. Bridger, F. Diplock, W. Baldwin, R. Brown, A. Brooker & K. Savage.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 11th 1970 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. V. Rumley and Bro. W. Baldwin seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was reading, consisting of acknowledgement letter from Head Office re inquiries into medical examinations including Hearing Tests, and B.R.B. Pension Fund deductions were received.

Nomination for one candidate L.D.C. 

It was moved by Bro. V. Rumley and seconded by F. Diplock “That no action be taken re nominations from this Branch for L.D.C. vacancy.”

A vigorous discussion took place again over Rest Day Working and the posting of topical and vital Society correspondence to be posted in case at depot, it was pointed out to members that without their attendance at Branch meetings to instruct the officers to do same, no individual officer had the power to do this.

Reports

The Secretary of the L.D.C. reported on various items taken up recently with Management including letters on lighting at Tunbridge Wells West, Oxted Mess Room & Sidings, noise level on D.E.M.U.s, diagrams alterations and new colour proposed for same.

Bro. A. Brooker then reported on the last District Council No.4 meeting including many other interesting items a questionnaire supplied by Bro. W. Williams for guidance to members and established status membership.

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked members for their presence and closed the meeting at 12.50

Members present Bros. V. Rumley, W. Baldwin, F. Diplock, A. Brooker, K. Savage & D. Ward.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday December 13th 1970 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


Before opening the meeting, Chairman Bro. A. Brooker apologies for the unintended implication that Bro. D. Ward was not fitted for L.D.C. duties.

The chairman then opened  the meeting at 10.30 p.m. The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. V. Rumley  and Bro. F. Diplock seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was then read.

Reports

Bro. A. Brooker gave an L.D.C. report with various items including Christmas Period Roster, letter to Bros. Dickenson & W. Haywood re line closure, meeting with Mr. Greenfield and Mr. Russell C.M.E. and the terrible maintenance state of D.E.M.U.s 9 units but for the good grace of drivers could be failed immediately and a further meeting and same which would take place in January 1971.

Bro. A. Brooker then gave his previous District Council meeting report including items on Regional percentage Rest Day working, a disturbing letter from Hither Green re men who suffer ill health, E.C. report, road learning payments, uniform clothing and compensation claims.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to close at 1 o/c p.m. thanking all members present for their attendance.

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, V. Rumley, F. Diplock, K. Savage & A. Brooker.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday January 24th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and Bro. F. Diplock seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was then read

Question on minutes

A vigorous discussion took place over the Industrial Relation Bill, re circular reference No. 7/1971, “National Outdoor Demonstration.” And it was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. “That it be laid on table.” Carried unam.

Bro. V . Rumley proposed and Bro. F. Diplock seconded that the T.U.C. Petition against the Industrial Relation Bill be posted in depot.

Reports

Bro. A. Brooker the L.D.C. Secretary gave a full report on items including siting of lighting in sidings with 3 towers 55ft high 3 @ 750 watts and 9 @ watt. Proposed hours of payment of wages, meetings concerning D.E.M.U.s and failure rate, matter to Mr. Barrows re decimalisation of deductions Southern Region intent. Future meeting of Sectional Council “B” and suggestions of subsidy for bus companies from county rates.

Branch Officers elected 1971

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, 

Vice Chairman R. Bridger, 

Secretary D.W. Dores & 

Assistant Secretary F. Diplcok

Committee

Bros. K. Savage, W. Baldwin, V. Rumley, H. Love, 

R. Brown, R. Sullivan & P. Pepper.

Moved by Bro. R. Bridger seconded Bro. V. Rumley that nominations  ceased carried unam.

  BRANCH OFFICERS 1971 - 72

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BOOKER
ASSIST. CHAIRMAN. R. BRIDGER
SECRETARY. D. DORE
ASSISTANT SEC. F. DIPLOCK



It was agreed that the venue of meeting be the Welfare Rooms, Central Station, the time being as and when requires. A vote of thanks was given to the retiring minute Secretary Bro. K. Savage for his pass services

Any Other Business

Bro. H. Love asked if the L.D.C. would look into the possibility of having a ramp erected at 9 car marks at East Grinsrtead and Uckfield to assist the descent from driving cabs.

The Chairman thanked members for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.45 p.m.

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, V. Rumley, W. Baldwin, D. Dores, F. Diplock, K. Savage, A. Brooker & H. Love.  

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 28th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro.V. Rumley and Bro. W. Baldwin seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence was then read

Election of Assistant Secretary Cir 32/1971 it was proposed by Bto. V. Rumley and seconded by Bro. K. Savage. “That a letter of congratulations be forwarded to Bro. D.K. Pullen on his attaining of the position of Assistant General Secretary.” Carried unam.

Rates of Pay Circ 33/1971,  it was moved by Bro. V. Rumley and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. “That this communication concerning forthcoming industrial action be posted, and that the Branch Secretary to be given a free hand to post subsequent circulars and instructions in this matter.” Carried unam.

There followed a full discussion on the present pay negotaitions and the threatened “work to rule” resulting from same. Bro. A. Brooker gave a clear and concise analysis of the latest B.R. pay offer. Bro. K. Savage stated that this Society must maintain the rate differential.

Reports

Bro. A. Brooker the District Council Delegate delivered a full report a nd both Special and Ordinary District Council meetings. The  former concerning the industrial relations bill. The latter dealing with E.C. recommendation to A.A..D. to increase contributions from 20p to 25p. Wages, rest Day working, uniform clothing, watches for footplatemen staff. Chairman of RSNT., investments Sectional Council elections, consolidations and manning of U.S.F. D.M.U.

Bro. A. Brooker the L.D.C. Secretary then delivered the L.D.C report includiong such items as assistance given to the secretary of the local branch of the N.U.R. in respect of a claim they are perusing on behalf of a member arising from the poor lighting in Tunbridge Wells West yard. Bro. A. Brooker alluded to his previous L.D.C. report in which he outlined details of the proposed new lighting . this work is now in the hand. Bro Brooker then reported an up to date position in respect of D.E.M.U. failures and booking thereof, special reference was made to the experimental engine room door fitted to unit 1317. on conclusion of this full report.

There being no other business, the chairman thanked the members for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.55 p.m.

Members present Bros V. Rumley, W. Baldwin, F. Diplock, K. Savage, D. Dore & A. Brooker

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday June 13th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved by Bro. K. Savage and Bro. R. Bridger seconded. “That they were a true record.”

Correspondence 

There followed a full and frank discussion on Minimums Earnings Level as outlined in Circular 52/1971 and certain reservations were expressed from the floor, concerning the many anomalies inherent in these proposals. 

Further discussion then took place a on the new “Work content” bonus proposals to supercede the present Short Mileage Pass. Train bonus. It was felt by the majority that any simplification of bonuses was to the advantage of all. Bro. A.C. Brooker pointed out, however that at our depot most turns of high “Work Content” would already be covered by long mileage bonus.

It was moved by Bro. K. Savage, seconded by Bro. R. Bridger and carried. “That the National League of Blind Appeal be posted in the Booking Hall, T.W.W. Station. 

Reports

Bro A. Brooker on his L.D.C. Secretary the delivered the L.D.C. report. This included reference to the unsatisfactory level of noise in the motor coach cab of D.E.M.U. No. 1306, the repeated booking of same and the letter from the Area Depot Manager in reply to the L.D.C. on the complaint of Bro. G. Hallam. It was explained by Bro. A. Brooker, that Bro. Hallam had informed the A.D.M. of his intentions not to work Unit 1306 until the cab had been rendered less noisy. Bro. Brooker then dealt with the amended hours for payment of wages as proposed by management. It was proposed by Bro. K. Savage and seconded by Bro. H. Love. “That the L.D.C. do not accept any amendment of payment hours which would curtail closure of payment facilities before 19:45 hours each night. This motion was carried.

The L.D.C.report was concluded.

The Branch the congratulated Bro. D. Dore, the Branch Secretary on his successful attainment of a place at T.U.C. Summer School, York University 1971.

There being no other business, the Chairman thanked members for their attendance and closed the meeting at 12.50

Members present Bros. R. Bridger, K. Savage, H. Love, D. Dore & A. Brooker.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday August 8th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved, that they be accepted as read.

Reports

The report of the District Council meeting was then delivered by D. C. delegate. A concise account of the meeting was received, including the present financial difficulties of Southern Region and the anticipated economy measures.

The L.D.C. report was delivered by the L.D.C. Secretary. This included reference to the L.D.C.’s  attempt to negotiate with management on the withdrawal of the depot time-keeper on Sundays. Although abrogating on existing L.D.C. minute, the management  have refused to negotiate with the L.D.C. on this issue.

Any Other Business

It was proposed, seconded and carried, that in future all Head Office Circulars would be posted by the Secretary at the depot, for information of all members and would not, therefore be treated as correspondence at Branch meetings. Matters arising from posted circulars can be dealt with as agenda items.

It was proposed, seconded and carried. That in respect of Extra Sunday Bookings the L.D.C. be instructed to ensure that the appropriate L.D.C. minute be strictly adhered to.

The Chairman closed the meeting at 12. 50. 

Seven members present

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday September 19th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved, that they be accepted as read.

Reports.

The L.D.C. Secretary delivered the L.D.C. report which included reference to the winter diagrams, the intended withdrawal of the Warship class diesel hydraulics and subsequent Crompton Type 3 shortage, also the shunting of Tunbridge Wells West Yard, and the repositioning of lighting in same.

Nominations for L.D.C. Candidates, the following members were nominated for the L.D.C.

Bros. F. Diplock, A. Brooker, & A. Young.

Bros. D. Ward and W. Baldwin declined to be nominated as candidates.

Any Other Business

It was proposed, seconded and carried. “That Bro. G. Andrews, Sectional Council to be invited to address the branch at the October meeting.

It was proposed, seconded and carried. “That Bro. M. MacMillian of Tonbridge, M.P.D., be invited to address the branch on the subject of his travels in the Churchill Travelling Fellowship. It was further proposed that this be at a special combined meeting with Tonbridge Branch.

The matter of Boxing Day booking for 1971 was then raised, and it was carried that L.D.C. minutes be strictly adhered to.

The Chairman closed the meeting at 12.45 p.m.

Ten members were present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 17th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved, that they be accepted as read.

Reports.

The L.D.C. Secretary delivered the L.D.C. report which included reference to the yard lighting at Tunbridge Wells West Yard have been moved in accordance with a request by the L.D.C. It was further mentioned that the new lighting position still does not meet entirely with drivers requirements. Some discussion of this point was allowed by the Chairman. Clarification of the position in respect of L.D.C. minute 25, shed staff was also given. The L.D.C. Secretary then concluded his full and concise report.

L.D.C. Elections

Votes for the candidates nominated at the September meeting were taken and recorded as follows.

Bro. F. Diplock 4 votes, A. Brooker 4 votes & Bro. A. Young nil votes.

There being two positions on the L.D.C. staff side, Bros. Diplock & Brooker therefore became the official Society candidates.

Address

The Chairman then introduced the guest speaker Bro. G. Andrews, vice Chairman, Sectional Council no.2. Bro. Andrews delivered an interesting report on the work of Sectional Council, including the Statement of Intent on the future depots and the £600,000,000 Corperate Plan. The address was warmly received and on conclusion a vote of thanks to Bro. Andrews was moved.

Any Other Business

The matter of shunting D.E.M.U. stock in Tunbridge Wells West Yard was raised and discussion followed. No resolution passed.

The Chairman closed the meeting at 12.50. 

Seven members were present.

 

  Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday March 12th 1972 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary and it was moved, that they were a true record.

Election of Officers 1972

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, Vice Chairman R. Bridger, Secretary Bro. D. Dore, Assistant Secretary F. Diplock.

Committee Bros. K. Savage, W. Baldwin, V. Rumley, C. Hallett, A Daugherty, A. Young & P. Pepper.

District Council No.4 Delegate Bros. A. Brooker, F. Diplock & V. Rumley

Trade Council Delegates Bros R. Bridger, A. Brooker, V. Rumley & F. Diplock

Scrutineers Bros. K. Savage, F. Diplock & W. Baldwin

It was proposed and seconded “That to ensure a bi – monthly meetings and a special evening meeting may the assistant officers could call a special meetings be conviened at the discretion of the Brach Officers.” Carried.

District council Report

Bro. A. Brooker then delivered a concise report on the District Council meeting. This included references to the open meeting at New Cross on 17th February, 1972, the reduction of staff in B.R. Workshops (Ashford & Swindon) and the cute in the loco and wagon building programme. Rest Day Working and the 500 surplus footplate staff on the Eastern Region, mileage payments, High Density Stock and London Allowance increases were reported upon, also noise levels in the cabs of D.E.M.U. stock.

L.D.C. report

Bro. A. Brooker, the L.D.C. secretary then delivered a short L.D.C. report. Further reference was paid to the “Shed Staff” position as previously reported.

Any Other Business

It was proposed and seconded. “That Trade Council Delegates, Bros. A. Brooker & R. Bridger should attend the dinner to be given for Bro. Tapp. Carried.

The Chairman closed the meeting at 12.30. 

Five members were present

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday April 16th 1971 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last were read by the minute secretary.

Matters Arising from the minutes of the last meeting. It was started by a member present that the minutes should be amended as follows.

Election of Officers 1972 “Trades Council Delegate add – Bro. R. Bridger.

Agenda item re – Bi-monthly and normal meetings, add The Assistant Officers may call a Sunday Branch Meeting.

It was moved and seconded that the minutes as amended be adopted as a true record.” Carried

L.D.C. report

Bro. A. Brooker, L.D.C. Secretary, then delivered the L.D.C. Report. This included reference to the proposed installation of an additional in T.W. yard. The delivery of lockers of the cube type to be investigated, and a claim regarding the wardrobe type locker to replace these to be progressed.

Any Other Business

Reference was paid to meeting at Wimbledon and Victoria outlining the proposed cuts in train services from 1st May 1972.

The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 11.10.

An Open Meeting was the conveined dealing with dispute commencing on Monday 17th April 1972.

The Chairman reopened the Branch Meeting and there being no other business, declared the meeting closed at 12.45

There were 18 members present

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday July 9th 1972 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last were read by the Assistant secretary.

Matters arising from the minutes of the last meeting, it was pointed out that the word normal be deleted from sentence to over agenda item bi-monthly meeting or special meeting. It was moved and seconded that the minutes as amended be adopted as true record.

Correspondence

Minutes of Trade Council were read and included references to a collection for old people. It was pointed out that were a collection made at Tunbridge Wells West depot, all monies collected passed to a delegated member on Trade Council, and responsibility for payment, and use of moves to help old people to be shown on an account or balance sheet, or distribution to branches who make contribution to cause.

District Council Report

Bro. A. Brooker gave his report of the meeting on July 3rd 1972. the meeting opened with the observance of once minutes silence in respect of the dead in the Eltham Well Hall disaster. Points raised included managements promise of an early meeting with Sectional Council B on Time Table for 1973, although no change could expected an Brighton/Portsmouth services. Southern Region have pressed Ministry regarding grants for 1973, which ties up with completion of 1973 Time Table.

Detailed report D.E.M.U. services Tonbridge – Redhill sent to Ministry to obtain extention of grant. This rate will only be retained because of freight traffic as Channel Tunnel route still undecided. Cost of this route renders this no longer viable. Any electrification authorised would start with East Grinstead/Oxted and Tonbridge/Hastings.

Correspondence books to be discontinued, and loose leaf headed note paper to be substituted. Point made re loss of record by this new practice and of continuity by change of L.D.C. or Branch Secretary.

L.D.C. Reports

The L.D.C. Secretary reported on correspondence he had had with the A.D.M. as the new doors being fitted to the D.E.M. Units and the poor quality of door catches stressed the superior type of handle fitted to Unit 1317, which has now been tested for over 12 months and has well stood up to use.

Meeting with C.M.E.E. as the modification of fuses in auxiliary cupboard since the explosion of unit 1306. References made to Annual Leave vacant date application.

Rejection of an extra light in the yard owing to the cost being £1,500, and correspondence still on progress on new wardrobe type lockers.

Any Other Business

Bro. W. Baldwin spoke of his concern at the earnings level at Tunbridge Wells West Depot in to other Mixed Traction  Depots on the Central Division. He feels that the amount of special workings that these depots are booked at weekends, should be shared out more fairly. So in this context he is to write to the A.D.M. explaining his feelings on this subject, asking for Diesel Locomotive training so enabling him to participate in ballast workings etc.

It was agrees that further discussion of this subject will be progressed at the next Branch meeting.

The Chairman closed the meeting at 13.00 

Four members were present

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday October 22nd 1972 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Secretary, it was moved moved and seconded that they were a true record. Carried.

Matters arising

A question was raised in connection with issue of branch and L.D.C. correspondence books. The Secretary referred to an a item of correspondence that was to be red lster

Bro. A. Brooker the L.D.C. Secretary then delivered the L.D.C. Report. This report referred to the following topic dealt with since the last Branch Meeting

The 1973 timetable, the yard lighting, Mixed Traction status – Traction Training, Annual Leave wages collection, Lockers – wardrobe type.

The L.D.C. Secretary also referred to a letter re unit 1306 and the lack of reply on this subject from Head Office. The latest position re Driver C. Smith – Traction Training was clarified and a letter on the subject from Area Depot Manager was read.

Reference: was also paid to the unsatisfactory fitting of swing type engine room doors on D.E.M.U. Stock. 

L.D.C. Nomination

The Chairman called for nominations for an official Society candidate to serve on the L.D.C. for the forthcoming term. There were no nominations from the floor.

Any Other Business

It was proposed, seconded and carried. “That this Branch instructs the Secretary to write to both District Council and Head Office on the subject of the recent letter in the Sunday Telegraph concerning the possibility of further massive rail cuts involving the curtailing of the national network to a mere 7,000 miles. Further that the Secretary should urge District Council and Head Office to liase with other railway unions with the view to organising token industrial action in order to bring public attention to the hardship that would be caused if such cuts were implemented.

There being no other business the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.30

6 members were present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday December 12th 1972 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Secretary. It was then moved and seconded and that they were a true record. Carried.

It was moved and seconded that Bro. B. Noakes be voted to 1973 A.A.D. Carried

It was moved and seconded that Bro. Ashkettle be voted to the Parliamentary Panel. Carried

The Branch then gave their approval to the prior nomination by the Chairman and Secretary of Bro Andrews for Sectional Council ‘B’.

It was proposed from the chair that the appeal from Briant Print Work-in Committee be laid on the table. Seconded and Carried.

Bro. A. Brooker then delivered the District Council Report. This was a lenghty and concise report covering many current topics including Rest Day Working, A.PT./H.S.D.T. London Allowance and the re-signalling of London Bridge.

Bro. A. Brooker then delivered the L.D.C. Report. This included reference to the following, lockers, consolidation on daily basis, uniforms, driver C. Smith, Boxing Day Workings 1972.

The Chairman then called for nominations for Branch Officers to serve in 1973. the following were nominated and seconded.

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, Vice Chairman R. Bridger, Secretary Bro. W. Baldwin and Bro. D. Dore (Bro. D. Dore declined nomination) and Assistant Secretary Bro. F. Diplock. Scrutineer Bro. R. Bridger. There were no nominations for the Branch Committee nor for Branch Trustee.

Any Other Business

It was moved, seconded and carried. That the Secretary be instructed to write a letter of protest to the Area Depot Manager and Sectional Council ‘B’ re the late posting of Boxing Day working in views of  abnormal requirements.

There being no further business the Chairman closed the meeting at 13.00

6 members were present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday January 21st 1973 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were then read by the Secretary, and it was moved and seconded that they were a true record. Carried.

There followed the elections of officers 1973  in accordance with nominations taken at the last meeting. Officers were duly elected

Chairman Bro. A. Brooker, Vice Chairman R. Bridger, Secretary W. Baldwin & Assistant Secretary F. Diplock.

Branch Committee

Bros. K. Savage, D. Dore, V. Rumley, A. Dagherty, A. Young & P. Pepper.

All the above officers were elected unanimously. Voting the following voting and nomination paper received from Head Office were then voted upon.

Nomination of E.C. Member, it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. V. Rumley. That Bro. G. Andrews be nominated from this branch. Carried unanimously

The L.D.C. secretary Bro. A. Brooker then delivered his L.D.C. report. This concise report covered many local issues including, staff car parking, the new Edenbridge Town 9 car stop board, lockers, yard lighting and the London Bridge road learning programme.

Any other Business

The following branch resolution was proposed by the Chairman: Headed ‘Staff Car Park’

“That this Branch fully support and endorse the action taken by the L.D.C. re the closure of the ‘Arches’ to car parking – provided under L.D.C. min.31 of 14.7.71

  BRANCH OFFICERS 1973 - 76

BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BROOKER
ASSIST. CHAIRMAN. R. BRIDGER
SECRETARY. W. BALDWIN
ASSISTANT SEC. F. DIPLOCK



 Further that this Branch is incensed at yet another example of abrogation of local agreements and instructs the L.D.C. to call an emergency branch meeting to organise total reaction to any future breach of L.D.C. minutes.”

It was moved and seconded and carried that this resolution be adopted.

The Chairman then closed the meeting at 13.00hrs., 

there being 6 members present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday April 11th 1973 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved and seconded that they were a true record.

Bro. V. Rumley questions the present position re the protest letter in connection with the 1972 Boxing Day workings and was concerned whether the same positions could arise with the 1973 Easter workings. Bro. A. Brooker the L.D.C. Secretary informed Bro. RRumley that there was correspondence on the subject of the 1972 Boxing Day workings in the L.D.C. report and would give the present position re 1973 Easter Workings with it.

Longs Service Badges Awards

W. Gents 30 years, H. Love & I. Breeds 10 years

District Council report

Bro. A. Brooker District Council Delegate then once his report of District Council meeting at 26th February 1973 and because of relevant issues within the report, there immediately followed a full discussion on letters from Bro. H. Love, both to the Branch Secretary and L.D.C. Secretary on his disagreement with the interpretation made on 12 on E.C. Resolution No. Re the working of extra Sundays during the period of non cooperation with management.

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker read out copy of  letter sent Bro   over letter from Bro. H. Love together with letters to and from Bro. F. Page Branch Secretary Tonbridge and Bro. Pearman L.D.C. Secretary Redhill. In letter of reply from Bro. Williams, he stated, quote that is quite obvious that the situation at Tunbridge Wells and at other depots arose out of a genuine misunderstanding and lack of guidance it is something that  will require much closer attention office level, should a similar circumstance arise again.

It was proposed by Bro. V. rumley and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger, that in any future event of instructive circulars of this nature to be posted a branch committee meeting be called for correct interpretation of same and that all members with any query of circulars or letter posted to approach branch secretary immediately so that he may get a decision without delay.

It was moved by Bro. V. Rumley and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That Branch Chairman and Secretary be absolved of any criticism over item 12 of resolution No. – this was voted 3 for 1 against.

Report

Bro. A. Brooker then gave his report this covered information on letter from N.U.R. to L.M. Region on multiple aspect signalling failures and irregulatities, list if people  to whom train drivers case booklets were forwarded to and correspondence on local issues covering uniform  clothing , further correspondence on car park site, instruction on Sunday duties before within and after annual holidays, present position on 9 car stopping mark at Edenbridge Town. Letter to A.D.M.  re new door handle on unit 1310 and correspondence on 1972 Boxing Day workings and waited information on 1973 Boxing Day and 1973 Easter workings.

Any Other Business

Bro. V. Rumley proposed that as the past Branch Secretary was off sick and was not at the meeting, that the Branch Secretary write and forward a vote of thanks and appreciation for his work and time given to the branch during his time as branch secretary this was seconded by Bro R. Bridger, together with a unaminous vote of thanks from all members present.

The branch Secretary put forward how his work could be made easier and at less cost to Head Office if he has a telephone at his residence. It was moved, seconded and carried. “That the Secretary should write to Head Office and enquired if telephones are installed for Branch Secretaries or if they would be prepared to pay the cost or part of the cost for one to be installed.”

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 1300hrs.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday July 8th 1973 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock that they were a true record.

Matters arising

It was carried unanimously at the January Branch meeting, that Bro. G. Andrews be nominated from this branch for election of E.C. member and due to the voting papers arriving after the April meeting requiring to be at Head Office before the July meeting, it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. K. Savage. “That a Branch endorsement be given to the action taken in getting papers to Head Officer by 4th July 1973. Carried unanimously

Branch Banking

Due to the non existence of coop bank in Tunbridge Wells, the Branch Secretary has found difficulties arising when dealing with branch finance and has made arrangements through Head Office and locally for the Tunbridge Wells West Branch banking to be made through the National Westminster bank. Address 89 Mount Pleasant Road, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.

These arrangements are divided into three accounts.

1, an account with a paying in book for money to be paid into the Head Office  account i.e. ASLEF diary payments

2, an account to change cheques from Head Office for payments to members when required with maximum of £150 a month.

3, a private account for Tunbridge Wells West branch only.

The Secretary brought the position of the Money Bank to the attention of the meeting and it was decided to give the ---- and leave to for discussion at the next meeting

The future of the old Mutual Aid, and it was moved Bro. K. Savage and seconded by Bro. R. Bridger “That a vote of thanks be given.” The Branch Chairman and Secretary for their work in arranging the Branch Banking System.

Bro. R. Dickenson

Due to Branch Secretary’s Holidays etc. it was found to be impossible to call a Branch meeting in time to get voting papers to Head Office for the election of one delegate to the Labour Party Conference ’73. It was moved by Bro. F. Dipllock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger “That  a Branch endorsement be given to the action taken in nominating Bro. R. Dickenson for the Labour Party Conference  ‘73” Agreed Unanimously.

It was moved, seconded and carried “That the Secretary should write to the Secretary of the East Sussex Travellers Association for information on the Private Plan put forward to close the Edenbridge  - Eridge section of line and route all traffic through Tonbridge.

Bro. A. Brooker then gave his L.D.C. report, this covered correspondence on holiday roster 1974, and Tunbridge Wells West L.D.C. minutes and minutes required for D. Goddens accident

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:00 Hrs.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday September 16th 1973 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger that they were a true record.

The question of financial appeals was brought to the attention of the meeting and given a full discussion by all present. It was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That successive branch financial appeals not to be posted until being subject to a lapse this to be at the discretion of Branch Chairman and Secretary.

The future of the Mutual Aid Fund was again bought to the attention of the meeting and a proposal for its use, that was put foreward to the branch was read and explained by the chairman. This proposal was fully discussed, and acceptable by all members present. It was agreed that a letter explaining the foundation of the fund, for what purposes it was founded, the reasons why it was necessary that it should be re-examined, and the present financial position of the fund should be posted, together with a copy of the new amended rules, on the branch notice board, for all members attention so that if they wish, they may become members of the fund.

East Sussex Travellers Associations 

Letter of reply from Honorary Secretary, East Sussex Travellers Association with assurances of no support to the plan to close the Edenbridge to Eridge portion of the line and re-route traffic via Tonbridge. 

It was also agreed that a copy of the explanatory letter and rules to be kept in the branch minute book.

It was proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That Bro. A.Brooker the nominated as Tunbridge Wells Branch for 1974 A.A.D. delegatge in group 40, and that Secretary should with branches in group 40, for their support for Bro. Brooker.

It was proposed by Bro. Brooker and seconded seconded F. Diplock “That Bro. Williams be nominated from this branch for Parliamentary Panel, but that before sending nomination form to Head Office, secretary should write to Bro. Williams and ask if he would be willing to be nominated for this position at this time.

District Council Report

Bro. Brooker, District Council Delegate gave his report on meeting at East Croydon on 9th July 1973 and followed by giving his L.D.C. Report..

The following members were nominated as candidates for the L.D.C.

Bro. A. Brooker proposed by F. Diplock and seconded by R. Bridger.

Bro. F. Diplock proposed by W. Baldwin and seconded R. Bridger.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:00

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

 Sunday November 11th 1973 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock  that they were a true record.

Nomination for was completed and forwarded to Head Office on behalf of Bro. Brooker as delegate for the 1974 A.A.D. to group 40 and branch secretary wrote to Secretaries of Brighton (1) & (2), Eastbourne, Horsham, Ore, and Seaford for their support to Bro. Brooker.

Branch Secretary wrote to Bro. W. Williams to see if would be willing to be nominated for Parliamentary Panel and his reply; he thanked the Branch for considering him for the position, but was sorry he would not be able to accept our nomination at this time.

Correspondence

Lewes & Uckfield Joint Rail Committee

It was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded F. Diplock. “That Secretary shoulkd forward £2 to Mrs C. Gowtton, Secretary, Lewes & Uckfield Joint Rail Committee, towards expenses of meeting on September 26th ’73. 

L.D.C. Report

This report covered Mutual Aid Fund, requirements on Circulars 118/119/1973, walk-ways and detonators in taxis.

District No.4 Report

The Branch District Council Delegate then gave a full report on D.C.4 meeting held on October 29th, ’73.

L.D.C. Voting

Votes for the candidates nominated at the September meeting wee then taken and recorded as follows.

It was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. W. Baldwin. “That Bros. A. Brooker and F. Diplock are voted as official L.D.C. Candidates.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:00Hrs.

4 members present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday February 17th 1974 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger  that they were a true record.

Matters arising

Parliamentary Panel

Due to the difficulty of finding an alternative Branch Room for the January Annual General Meeting and because Bro. W. Williams had declined nomination from this branch, it was necessary for the branch chairman and secretary to decided and foreward to Head Office an alternative for the Parliamentary Panel. It  was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That a full branch endorsement be given to the action taken in voting for Bro. G. Andrews from this branch.” Carried  Unanimously.

Lewes and Uckfield Joint Rail Committee

A letter of thanks received from Mrs Gowtton, Secretary, was read to members thanking them for the £2.00 sent from this Branch as help towards the expences of their meeting on the 26th September, 1973. 

Nominations of Election of Branch Officers 1974

It was proposed seconded and unanimously accepted by all members present that the Branch Officer for 1974 to be the same as 1973 with the following exception.

It was proposed Bro. A. Brooker seconded Bro. R. Brown and accepted that Bro. W.  Baldwin be scrutineer for 1974.

It was proposed Bro. K. Cavie, seconded Bro. R. Bridger and accepted that Bro. R. Brown should fill the (1) Branch Officer vacancy and the Branch Officers were duly elected as follows.

Chairman A. Brooker, Vice Chairman R. Bridger, Secretary W. Baldwin, Ass. Sec F. Diplock, Scrutineer Bro. W. Baldwin.

Branch Committee

Bros K. Savage, R. Brown, V. Rumley, A. Dougherty, A. Young & P. Pepper.

District Council Bro. A. Broker

Trades Council Delegates Bros. A. Brooker & R. Bridger

Trustee Bro. K. Savage.

Financial Report

The branch secretary gave the financial report of the Branch for the year ending  31st December ’73. This gave figure of  Branch expenditures during the past year of the branch funds deposited in the National Westminster Bank account, Mutual Aid Fund account in Bristol & West Building Society and cash in hand.

On completion of his report it was proposed Bro. R. bridger, seconded Bro. F. diplock. “That the Branch Financial statement be accepted as a true record.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. secretary Bro. A. Brooker gave a full report on the local issues being attended to by the committee and brought to special attention of the meeting, New Bank Holiday Rosters as proposed by the L.D.C. He gave a detailed talk on the necessity for changes to be made and on various principles that had been examined for doing so it was proposed Bro. K. Cavie and seconded Bro. Dougherty “That Mi. 10 to be recinded and a new minute 16 be replaced on principle  No.2 of the L.D.c. propose this was unanimously agreed by all members present.

Any Other Business

Bro. K. Cavie expressed his concern of the uncertainity  of drivers at this and other depots on the exact interpretation and procedure of the policy of non cooperation as instructed by the E.C. to all members implement. He pointed out that on several occasions it was noticeable that any one man would do what another man realiose  in following the policy of non cooperation and it was proposed by Bro. K. Cavie and seconded Bro A. Dougherty. “That if after the General Election, the situation returned to as before a special meeting would be called so that an agreed procedure to the E.C. instructions could be determined and carried out. This was unanimously agreed by all members present.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.15 Hrs.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday April 28th 1974 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock  that they were a true record.

The Branch Chairman pointed out ti the members, that due to the importance  of the issues to be explained, discussed and voted on within the L.D.C. report, it was necessary that this report was the next item to be given a full discussion at the meeting.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker explained that after examining the contents  of the proposed May 6th workings. The L.D.C. unanimously agreed that they were totally unacceptable and asked management for a meeting to get improvements on the contents of the diagram workings.

A meeting was arranged for the L.D.C. to meet Sectional Council (B) and management on the 19th April ’74 and further meetings were held on the 24th & 27th April ’74 all with no agreeable improvements made and the L.D.C. informed management that they would put position to the members at the Branch meeting arranged for Sunday 28th April ’74.

The contents of the workings were examine questioned and given a full diiscusin by all members present and it was proposed by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. M. Allen. “That a vote of confidence be given on the action taken by the L.D.C. on this matter and this Branch fully supports and endorse the Representations made. This was agreed unanimously.

It was moved by Bro. K. Cavie and seconded Bro. D. Godden. “That an interim roster be accepted until 17th May ’74 and that the diagrammed PC/TC/PB & BTH be strictly adhered to and all units stable  and position as instructed on the diagram workings and it was moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded Bro. D. Ward. “That the following resolutions are carried at this meeting.

Resolution (1)

This branch only accepts the interim roster for S.X. duties for 6th – 10th & 13th – 17th on the basis of the clear understanding that the demand for a joint L.D.C.s Victoria and Tunbridge Wells West meeting be met by the management with the interim of improving the mileage and content of the diagrams as presented at the meeting of Saturday 27th April 1974. Carried by a small majority.

Resolution (2)

This Branch instructs the L.D.C. and Branch Secretary to advise management and interested parties, including Area Organiser and S.C. “B”. That in the event offailure to obtain improvement in the diagram contents the drivers at this depot will only report for duty at 06.00 & 14.00Hrs as from May 20th 1974. Carried Unanimously

Consolidatary Payment Areas.

The L.D.C. Secretary informed the members that he was unable to finalise this as he was awaiting  a reply from Head Office to a letter dated 2nd April 197. Criticism was made by the members of the time lapse of no reply when it only required; either confirmation of agreement made, or a subsequently amended and B ranch Secretary was instructed to write to Head Office on this matter.

The L.D.C. Secretary completed his report on outstanding issues i.e. Car Parking, Bank Holidays etc. and was thanked by all members present.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00Hrs.

13 members were present.

 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday July 14th 1974 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were taken as read.

Matters Arising

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker explained the acceptance by the L.D.C. of the revised May 6th workings and it was agreed that the L.D.C. decision on this matter be given the full support of the Branch and the Branch Secretary instructed to advise the Area Depot Manager and Secretary Sectional Council (B) of this. Agreed Unanimously.

Consolidation Payment Areas

The Branch Secretary wrote to Head Office on this matter on the 7th & 30th May ’74 and forwarded the reply to the L.D.C. , this was accepted and arrangements were made for each driver to receive £1.94 Consolidation Payment Areas. The depot figure for the nationally agreed week.

Voting Paper For Vacancy Sectional Council “B”

It was unanimously agreed that Bro. B. Noakes Brighton No.2 be voted for the position from this Branch.

Trade Council Information

As Tunbridge Wells Branch is already affiliated to the Tunbridge Wells Trade Council with a recorded Branch Trades Council Delegate, only conformation of this required to be forward to Head Office.

District Council No.4 Report

The District Council Delegate gave his report of the D.C. 4 meeting at Croydon o the 8th July ’74 and spoke of the possible recall of the 1974 A.A.D. when the findings of the R.S.N.T. were announced.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker gave his report to the branch, this covered outstanding issues, further points on depot car parking and mounting concern about the walkways at signals.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00

3 members present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday October 13th 1974 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were taken as read.

Delegate to 1975 A.A.D.

It was agreed and seconded that Bro. A. Brooker Tunbridge Wells branch be nominated. Agreed unanimously.

L.D.C. Report.

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker gave his report to the branch, this covered rosters for 1976, platform shelter for platform 4 & 5, carrying detonators in taxis, state of goods yard, D.E.M.U. restrictions, conditions of Oxted staff room, Edenbridge Town platform extention and October diagrams.

Any Other Business

The question of a collection for Bro. C. Smith (retired) was brought to the attention of the meeting and the branch secretary was instructed to write to Branch Secretary Bro. Ellis South Eastern District and inquire if any collection was made on his behalf when he moved from Addiscombe to Tunbridge Wells West, before any positive action is taken on this.

Mutual Aid Fund

The branch secretary informed the members present, that Bro. J. Vigar had now been off work through illness for aperiod of 13 weeks and as per Mutual Aid Fund agreement would draw £3.25 from Bristol & West Building Society for our member.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00

 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday November 17th 1974 at 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms, Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the branch secretary and it was moved by Bro. H. Love and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That they were a true record.”

Matters arising

Collection for Bro. C. Smith (retired)

The Branch Secretary wrote to Bro. Friend Branch Secretary S/E District as per October meeting and a collection was made on his behalf and a cheque for £10.60 was forwarded to the Branch Secretary for Bro. Smithh. This together with £5.60 collected at Tunbridge Wells West was given to Bro. Smith at his home on the 22nd December ’74, with a bunch of Chrysanthemum’s for his wife on his retirement.

Edenbridge Town Platform Extention

As per the discussion within the L.D.C. Report at the October meeting, on this matter the Branch Secretary has written to Head Office and is awaiting their reply.

District Council Report

Bro. A. Brooker, Branch District Council Delegate gave a full report on the meeting held on the 28th October 1974.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on the present position on items being attended by the L.D.C., these covered Oxted & East Grinstead staff room, state of goods yard, two days leave and changing 2 days leave 1976 roster.

L.D.C. Nominations

It was proposed and seconded  that due to there not being any official procedure for this at the branch, all future L.D.c. nominations to be taken at the October branch meeting. Agreed Unanimously.

Vacancy for 1 L.D.C. member

The following members for this vacancy

It was proposed Bro. D. Ward and seconded Bro. H. Love that Bro. B. Baldock be nominated

It was proposed by Bro. L. Whiting and seconded Bro. B. Baldock that Bro. D. Ward be nominated.

This was voted on and the results were as follows Bro. D. Ward 5 votes, Bro. B. Baldock 1 vote & 1 non vote.

Br. D. Ward was therefore nominated and voted as official candidate for this position.

Any other business

The subject of collectors for drivers telephone attendants of sick was brought to the attention of the meeting  and given a full discussion it was unanimously agreed that the branch secretary be given full authority to hold a depot collection after a man had been off 6 weeks and another after 26 weeks with a figure of 25p per head collected. In the case of retirements this be made for all to subscribe to, at the booking office.

Attention was also brought to the meeting of incidents occurring where through extra non – diagrammed shunts having to be made were causing delayed starts to booked trains, and drivers were being questioned to any late starts of their trains through this matter be left open for further discussion if it continued.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00 Hrs. 

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday January 19th  1975 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. B. Baldock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

The Branch Chairman on opening the meeting welcomed Bro. A. Ashdown and Bro. R. Harper as new members to the Society and Branch as from the the 23.12.74., and this welcome was expressed by all members present.

Election of Branch Officers for 1975.

It was proposed Bro. B. Baldock and seconded Bro. A. Rigby and unanimously agreed by all members present that the Branch Officers for 1975 to be the same as 1974, but with the following exception. It was moved Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. A. Rigby. “That due to Bro. D. Ward now being an official L.D.C. Representative he would need to be an official committee member and this reason, it was unanimously agreed that Bro. D. Ward take the position of Bro. P. Pepper on the Branch Committee.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary  gave his report to the branch, this covered, uniform belts & Slipover jackets, detonators in taxis, Edenbridge Town platforms and A.L. Roster 1976.

Matters arising from L.D.C. Report.

The matter of Edenbridge Town platform was given a full discussion and in the light of the L.D.c. Secretary’s report and a letter of reply of the Branch secretary’s letter of 12th November 1974. It was agreed that the L.D.C. secretary should write to Bro. R. Dickinson, Sectional Council ‘B’  Secretary and Bro. N. Millagan Organising Secretary on this, and if no satisfactory results call a meeting for further discussion on it.

Bro. A Rigby brought to the attention of this meeting the possibility of some drivers having to work more Boxing Days than others on the new agreed system of rostering for bank holidays, this was given a full discussion and it was decided that the Boxing Day 1975 rostering should be compared with the 1974 rostering and if  there was any evidence of this the position of rostering for the 1976 and future boxing days be re examined.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 14.00 p.m.

5 members were present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday April 6th 1975 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. B. Baldock and seconded Bro. D. Ward. “That they were a true record.”

Edenbridge Town Platform Overrunning

The L.D.C. Secretary reported on the position to date on this matter and read out letters of reply from his letters to Bro. R. Dickinson Sectional Council ‘B’ Secretary and Bro. N. Milligan Organising Secretary and in the light of the contents of these it was decided to await developments with the main object o get this item placed on an L.D.C. agenda.

Boxing Day 1976

With regard to the point raised on this by Bro. A. Rigby at the January meeting, the L.D.C. Secretary pointed out that due to the extra work coming in with the May workings, it could be impossible to work any on/off system, but as decided at that meeting the Boxing Day 1976 rostering would be kept under review.

Circulars & Correspondence

He Branch Secretary read out the contents of these received as from the last meeting and no questions were raised by the members on this.

District Council & Trades Council Report

Bro. A. Brooker the Branch delegate gave his report on the D.C.4 meeting followed by a full report on the proposed M & D Economies and questions that had been raised on housing.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on plans in hand to present time and a full discussion was given on the accident that Bro. R. Aspey was involved in at Woldingham.

Financial Report

The Branch Secretary gave the financial report of the Branch for 1974, this gave fianaces of branch expenditure and deposits for the past year. The financial position of the Mutual Aid Fund and cash in hand at this time. These figures were accepted as a true record by all members present.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00 p.m.

5 members present.

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday July 20th 1975 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. B. Baldock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

Branch correspondence and circular as from the last meeting were read and discussed by all and from these it was moved by Bro. R. Bridger and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. B. Noakes, Brighton, be nominated from this Branch for Sectional Council “B” representative, this vote was given a unanimous vote of agreement and a unanimous vote from this Branch was given for Bro. J. Wandel, New Street  Birmingham Branch for Parliamentary Panel Candidate.

District Council

The District Council delegate gave his report on the District Council No.4 meeting at Croydon, on July 7th, followed by a Trades Council report that a special meeting had been called to distress the proposed cuts in bus services for this area.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report to the member. This included new annual leave roster and rota order and this minutes has been made agreed and posted.

The position with regards to Edenbridge Town station platform had moved favourable forward, the item had been placed on L.D.C. agenda and this matter had been discussed with management and declined by them. The L.D.C. Secretary has now forwarded the complete file to Sectional Council “B”.

Proposed new building for station, ticket office and staff. It was suggested that ground on top dock should be used for the purpose of ticket office, as proposed use of loco dock would put present staff car parking under pressure.

The subject of rest day booking was discussed at the meeting and it was decided at that the existing L.D.C. minute covers i.e. if any man agreeing to work his rest day and has not put in for it off three days prior, as per L.D.C. minutes expect to be booked to work. Required and if declining turn given, is credited has having worked.

There being no other business, the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.00

4 members were present

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday August 28th 1975 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the last meeting and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Ashdown. That they were a true record.

Matters arising 

Rest day booking, the Secretary brought to the attention of the meeting that dissatisfaction was still in existence as to rest day booking. But it was left that this had been fully discussed t the July meeting and that what had been entered on the July meeting was correct.

Branch correspondence and circulars as from the July meeting were read and discussed. But due to the exceptional amount of work at the depot for this day, attendance was small and it was decided to await the November meeting for further discussion on some items.

L.D.C. Nominations

It was again decided for the same reason to await the November meeting for these.

Any other business, the Chairman brought to the attention of the meeting that changes on values etc as from the 16th September 1973 might necessitate some slight changes to the rules of the Tunbridge Wells West Mutual Aid Fund and that any proposed alterations towards on figures would be put forward for discussion at the November meeting.

New Minute Book

The Secretary informed the meeting that the Branch Minute Book was moving towards the last remaining pages and that he had purchased a replacement at the cost of £2.05. Nut unfortunately the dye and quality was not available as in 1948, and due to this the Secretary was instructed to purchase a second replacement if one was available.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 12.30  

2 members present

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday November 23rd  1975 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

Matters arising

A unanimous vote by all members present was given for Bro. Rowe – Reading Branch for delegate to T.U.C. 1976 Conference, for Bro. R. Dickinson  - Ramsgate Branch as delegate to 1976 Labour Party conference, and Bro. W. Hutchins – Horsham Branch as delegate for Group 40 at 1976 A.A.D. conference.

Mutual aid Fund

This was deferred for further discussion at the January meeting.

L.D.C. Nominations

Vacancies for 2 L.D.C. members become available as from 1st January 1976. But the present L.D.c. Representative Bro. F. Diplock informed the branch that he did not wish to stand agin this time.

The Branch Chairman and L.D.C. Secretary Bro. A. Brooker expressed the thanks of himself and the branch committee for all the time and work Bro. Diplock had given to the depot, especially bearing to mind the hours of work that were involved in getting an agreement with management on the May 1974 Diagram Working Dispute, and where his knowledge of these brought it to a satisfactory conclusion.

This vote of thanks and appreciation was expressed by all members present.

It was proposed Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “Bro. A. Brooker be nominated for 1 position and proposed Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock that Bro. B. Baldock be nominated for the other position. There being no other candidates it was unanimously agreed that Bros. A. Brooker and B. Baldock to nominated and elected as official L.D.C. Representatives for these two vacancies.

Correspondence

Branch Correspondence and circulars were read by the Branch Secretary and given full discussion. The Secretary brought to the attention of the meeting Circular 148/75 headed Consumption of alcohol and the importance of the contents of this circular to every driver.

District Council Report

The District Council delegate gave his report on the meetings of District Council No.4 on the 21st October ’75 which dealt with the financial position of B.R. and the proposed cuts in services.

L.D.C. Reports

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report to the members, this included matters already in hand and concern of members to the position of safety at Hamsey Crossing. Bro. Pepper was concerned of the lack of washing facilities of Uckfield Station and this was being investigated.

Any Other Business

The financial position of British Rail both from branches and D.C.4 report was given a full discussion and a policy was adopted that a proposed scheme of Bro. F. Diplock for a reduced Sunday service that could operate at a far lower cost than the present one, and if it could be accepted might not necessitate the complete proposed closure of the Oxted to Uckfield, Tonbridge line on a Sunday, should be promoted and used in the most suitable quarters of the expense of Branch funds. This was agreed unanimously.


There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:00

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday January 25th  1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger. “That they were a true record.”

Matters arising from minutes

Mutual Aid fund

The rules of the Mutual Aid fund, that were moved and accepted of the Branch Meeting of September 16th 1973, were given a full discussion, and it was agreed that due to the rise in cost’s and values, amendments to the rules had become necessary. The amendments put forward and explained by the chairman were discussed by the members and by a unanimously vote were accepted and as per rule (11) these amendments to be kept in the minute book for future reference.

It was moved Bro. R. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock that the amendments to the rules made at this meeting are to take effect as from the 25th January 1976. this also was agreed unanimously

Proposed Rail Cuts

Bro. F. Diplock, Assistant Branch Secretary, informed the meeting that as agreed at the November meeting he had, had 16 copies of his proposed scheme printed at the cost of £19.26 and these were now being dispatched to British Rail Representaives, Sectional Council ‘B’ secretary, L.D.C. secretaries of M.P.D. Victoria M.T. and Guards. Tunbridge Wells West, Mr. S. Pollington, Uckfield Parish Council, Mrs G. Gow, Secretary Uckfield to Lewes East Sussex Travellers Association. Mr. Rose, Tunbridge Wells and District Travellers and Mr. Thorneycroft, Edenbridge Area T. Ass and Miss P. Johnson Area Secretary Transport Secretary.

He was now awaiting replies to these and would advise the Branch of development

Branch Financial Report

The Financial Report of the Branch for year ending 31st December ’75 was given by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. Bridger and Seconded Bro. L. Stephenson. “That the report is a true recoded.”

Mutual Aid Fund Report

The financial report of the Mutual Aid Fund for the year ending 31st December 1975 was given by the Branch Secretary and it was moved Bro. B. Baldock and seconded Bro. L. Stephenson. “That the report is a true record.” 

Election of Branch Officers for 1976.

It was proposed Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Bridger and unanimously agreed by all members present, that the Branch Officers for 1976 are to remain the same as 1975, but with the following exception, it was agreed as Bro. B. Baldock is now an official L.D.C. Representative he should take the place of Bro. K. Savage on the Committee.

Branch Officers for 1976

Chairman A. Brooker, Vice Chairman R. Bridger, Secretary W. Baldwin, Ass. Secretary F. Diplock.

Committee

B. Baldock, R. Brown, V. Rumley, A. Dougherty, A. Young & D.Ward.

Collection

The subject of collections and the wording of the Branch  Minute of the meeting of Sunday 17th November ’74 on this matter was given a full discussion and it was unanimously agreed by all members present, that due to all-round improved sick-payments, this minute is to be cancelled and the following minute to apply as from this meeting.

All future collections to be held at Tunbridge Wells West Booking Office, if convenient to do so.

Collections are to be held when a man has been of work through illness for six complete weeks and is still of sick and another after 26 weeks with amount given to be optional.

Collection to held on the Thursday of the 4th week, but if this is not possible it is to be held on the following Thursday that can be arranged.

Notice of all collections taking place at Booking Office i.e. Guards, Station Staff , Drivers etc to be posted on Branch Notice Board for the benefit of monthly paid drivers to subscribe to if they so wish.

In the case of retirements this also to be made at the Booking Office for all to subscribe to.

Bro. L. Stephenson bought to the attention of the meeting a point of in-fairness in the present procedure of the booking of early and late extra Sundays and where Monday morning rostered turn of duty is used as a guide to who is booked early and late on a Sunday.

It was agreed there was a point for examination and it would be discussed further at the  next Branch Meeting.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.45

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday March 28th  1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Bridger and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That they were a true record.”

Any other Business arising from the last meeting

Proposed Rail Cuts

Bro. F. Diplock gave his report on replies he had received on his reduced Sunday service which had been forwarded to various parties. All were favourable to scheme and those forwarded to British Rail representatives had been received their consideration, but due to the proposed cuts being put forward from the 20th April to 25th July ’76 no information on these are available at this time.

Sunday Bookings

The position of Sunday bookings was given a full and long discussion by all members present. Points raised included the right to move a man off his rostered duty on a Monday morning to accommodate an Extra Sunday duty driver.

The right to use a Rest Day worker if no A/O driver available to cover the extra Sunday duty drivers Monday roster  

If or not the present system of Sunday booking should remain or be changed

It was moved Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. D. Godden. “That the matter should be put to a vote. This was unanimously agreed and the voting was as follows

4 to remain and 4 to be changed

The Chairman pointed out to the members that a considerable amount of time had been taken in discussion on this item and as there was obviously still a great deal of uncertainty on this matter, he suggested that the Branch Secretary mark it down for further discussion at the next meeting, this was agreed by all members present.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on matters in hand at this time, this included Edenbridge platform and payment of wages.

Any Other Business

Bro. F. Diplock brought to the attention of the meeting that at this time, no provision had been established at the depot to provide a spray of flowers as a token of respect from the members on the death of any the past or present members of the staff of Tunbridge Wells West depot.

Bro. Diplock offered to make the necessary arrangements when any such occasion arose in the future if the members wished. his offer  was appreciated and accepted be all members present and a vote of thanks was given to Bro. F. Diplock and H. Love for the arrangements they made for a spray of flowers to be sent from the depot at the death of Bro. H. Blackmore.

There being no other business the chairman bought the meeting to a close at 13.00

 

 

Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday August 4th 1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. B. Baldock. “That they were a true record.”

The position of Sunday bookings was again bought to the attention of the meeting for further discussion. But due to the present proposed cut back in Sunday services, and no diagram workings yet available to know what Sunday duties would be booked to the depot as from the 4th October ’76. The Chairman suggested that this matter should again be deferred to the next meeting for further discussion. This was agreed by the members present.

Correspondence and circulars as from the last meeting were read by trhe branch secretary and it was unanimously agreed that Bro. T.G. Thomas Llanelli be voted as delegate to the I.T.T. Congress and Bro. J. Smith Acton & North Fields be voted for the Societies Parliamentary Panel.

L.D.C. Report

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report om matters in hand. A full discussion was given on the proposed new offices and car parking, to which suggestion was made that carefull consideration be given by the L.D.c.to what is offered as alternative parking space.

Matters were still in hand with management, on ‘B; Box colour light home signal, on the overheating of D.E.M.U.’s and also that the train lights still go out when engine shut down.

Discussion was given to the cut out of telephone amendments on Sundays  22:00 to close and it was left that this move left certain points, questions note. It was moved Bro F. Diplock and seconded Bro. A. Dougherty. “That the item be put forward for L.D.C. discussion with management.” This was agreed unanimously.

The poor facilities at Oxted station for drivers to take their P.N. Breaks was given a full discussion. The L.D.C. Secretary gave details of his correspondence on this and it was agreed that the Branch Secretary should advise and if possible. Request information as to what improvements management are giving consideration to making.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13.30. 

 

 Tunbridge Wells Annual General Meeting

Sunday September 19th  1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The minutes of the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. T. Allen. “That they were a true record.”

The Branch Secretary gave his report on the position re Oxted P.N. Point. But no progress had been made it was agreed that the L.D.C. Secretary should write again to management on this matter.

T.U.C. Regional Council, it was proposed Bro. F. Diplock and seconded I. Breeds that Bro. Stokes, hither Green should be given consideration from the Branch for this position. This had a unanimous vote in favour of Bro. stokes.

L.D.C. Report

This report gave details of the cuts on the depot roster of Sunday duties as from 10/10/76. This matter was given a very full discussion and concern was expressed at the loss of Sunday work at Tunbridge Wells West Depot, in comparison with other depots in this area.

It was felt that this matter should be further progressed by the L.D.C. with the aim to getting additional Sunday duties on the roster.

I was proposed Bro. P. Pepper and seconded I. Breeds. “that a special branch Committee be formed to discuss any dispute which may arise on this matter, this was unanimously agreed by all present.

It was proposed that Bros L. Stephenson, I. Breeds, S. Neal, R. Bridger, M. Allen & D. Godden. That these members should form the Specail Branch Committee.

It was proposed Bro. P. Pepper and seconded I. Breeds. “That in the event of any failure of the l.D.C. to get any improvement of Sunday duties of Tunbridge Wells depot the drivers would carry out the same resolution of the Branch meeting of 28th April 1974, in that the drivers would report for duty at 06:00 and 14:00 Hrs. as from the 4th October ’76. this was unanimously agreed.

Any other Business

Bro. R. Plummer brought to the attention of the meeting , the dangerous state of the walkways at Tunbridge Wells from sidings of the up and down platforms ends, and beyond at Eridge, and the gas sidings walk way at Oxted station.

It was agreed by members that these did exist as dangerous situation when the drivers were required to use these points and the L.D.C. instructed to bring this matter to the attention of management.

It was understood that Bro. W. Hutchings Horsham Branch was standing for 1977 AAD representative and that in the event of voting paper being due in before the next meeting, it was unanimously agreed that Bro. W. Hutchings be voted from this branch for group H.O. representative.

Meeting closed at 13.15

 

 Tunbridge Wells Special General Meeting

Sunday October 3rd 1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

This special to discuss the proposals and resolution of the meeting of the 19th September ’76, with regards to the cuts in Sunday duties at Tunbridge Wells West depot.

The L.D.C. Secretary reported to the Special Branch Committee, that at a meeting with management, Sectional Council ‘B’, Redhill M.T., & Victoria m.T. L.D.C.s on Wednesday 29th September ’76, no improvements of Sunday duties were offered to them and the position was the same as their report on the 19th September ’76.

This matter was given a long and full discussion by all members, and unanimously agreed that the resolution of booking on at 06;00 & 14:00 Hrs. will apply on Monday 4th October ’76, providing a guarantee of 8 Hrs pay per day was given by management and if given, it was voted 9 for and nil against continuing booking on these times indefinitely.

In the event of management refusing to pay 8hrs per day, it was voted 14 for and nil against, that as from Tuesday 5th October ’76, men would work strictly and only to their diagram workings.

It was voted 14 for and nil against that if management offered all or any member his cards a return to normal working would apply immediately.

This position of working on Sunday 10th October ’76 was fully discussed and in a vote taken 7 were against working 4 for working and a no to working on Sunday 10th October ’76 was recorded at this time. But it was felt that a Special branch meeting should be called for Wednesday 6th October ’76 to discuss developments, and this should again be discussed and finalised at that meeting.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Special General Meeting

Wednesday  October 6th 1976 19.00 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


Bro. T. Allen, Chairman of the Special Branch committee opened the meeting by calling on the L.D.C. secretary Bro. A. Brooker for a report on his meeting with the A.D.M. on Tuesday 5th October ’76. Bro. A. Brooker informed the members that he had been advised by the A.D.M. that there would be no more Sunday duties for Tunbridge Wells depot because of this dispute and any continuation of such action could lead to a further reduction of the Oxted line services.

The Branch Secretary informed the members that to date, he had received no reply or even acknowledgement to his letter of the 29th September to Head office, so could not say if any assistance would be given on this matter.

Bro. Allen questioned as to what contact the Organising Secretary had made with the Branch Officials, and again the Branch Secretary had to point out, that as with Head Office, there had been nothing from him either.

The situation was discussed by the members present and it was agreed that combining the facts of a complete silence from Head office together with the positive action being taken by management over this dispute, careful consideration should be given to the advantages and disadvantages of any further action taken, many points for and against were put forward, but reluctantly, because of Head office silence, and the uncertainty if any assistance in this dispute would be given, it was felt that in the light of managements attitude to any alleviation of the unfair number of loss Sunday duties sufferd by this depot, and the members re-action to that loss, having been made very clear to the management by industrial action could lead to further reduction of the Oxted road services, all such action shall cease as from the completion of this days latest duty.

It was voted 12 for and 1 against and 2 abstained. That as from Thursday 7th October ’76 normal diagram working will be strictly adhered to.

It was voted 11 for, 1 against and 3 abstained. That L.D.C. minutes in respect of rest day working will apply and a unanimous vote was given to accept the present number of Sunday duties.

It was proposed and seconded that Bro. F. Diplock be thanked for his knowledge and help given with the diagram workings in this dispute, and a unanimous vote of thanks was expressed by all members.

It was proposed and seconded. “that the branch Secretary be instructed to write to the General Secretary expressing their utter disgust of the full membership of the Tunbridge Wells Branch, at no reply to their correspondence , or assistance in this matter. A unanimous vote was given to this proposal and the Branch Secretary instructed to make it clear, as to the bitter feeling over this matter of all 38 drivers at the depot, and that the letter be sent recorded delivery.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday December 5th 1976 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Branch Chairman/L.D.C. Secretary, the Branch Secretary and the remaining L.D.C. representatives attended this meeting call. All other members failed to attend and the meeting was unable to be held.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch A.G.M. Meeting

Sunday January 16th    1977 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch Chairman opened the meeting, by extending a warm welcome to Bro N. Milligan, organising Secretary, who had come to discuss the possibility of members being unavailable to form a branch at Tunbridge Wells for 1977.

The Branch secretary read the minutes of the last meeting of the 19th September ’76, and it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. R. Harper. “That they were a true record.”

The minutes of the 2 Special Branch Meetings of the 3rd and 6th October ’76 were then read by the Branch Secretary and it was moved Bro. A. young and seconded Bro. B. Baldock, and moved by Bro. T. Allen and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. “That the minutes of these two special branch meeting were a true record.”

Matters arising from the three meetings.

The branch secretary read the correspondence and replies to and from all concern on what had taken place over the dispute between management and the branch on the loss of excessive Sunday duties at the depot.

This was given a very full discussion by the members, many questions were asked on the subject, and request for the up to date position were asked for by the members.

The Branch Chairman and Secretary gave their report on this but were unable to answer off questions due to there being no other replies, or very limited information in the replies that were received from Head Office and that perhaps the Organising Secretary could answer these on completion of Branch business.

Correspondence

Correspondence and circulars as from the last meeting were read by the Branch Secretary and discussed by the members present.

The voting paper for 1 delegate to the Trades Union Congress ’77 was read through. But as the branch had received no information on the candidates standing for this position, it was felt by the members that a vote could not be given on this item.

All other items were accepted and placed in the Branch file.

L.D.C. Nominations

Due to there being insufficient members at he December meeting for a meeting to be held, nominations for the vacant L.D.C. position could not be called for prior to the 1st January ’77, but request for nominations for this still vacant position were then asked for.

It was proposed Bro. P. Musselwhite and seconded Bro. B. Baldock that Bro. A. young be nominated for this position and there being no other persons nominated, Bro. A. young accepted to stand for this and was given a unanimous vote by all members present to be the official L.D.C. representative to take up this vacant position.

The Branch Chairman, Bro. A. Brooker asked Bro. Milligan if he would accept an invitation from the branch to give his points of view on the issues raised throughout the meeting and answer if possible questions from the members.

Bro. Milligan accepted this invitation and informed the meating that he was pleased to visit Tunbridge Wells Branch and thanked the members for there welcome, especially as the circumstance of his visit related to the future existence of the branch.

Bro. Milligan opened by apologising to the members at being thrown in at the deep end at this meeting. He informed them that he had come to discuss the unavailability of members to form a branch for 1977, and he had no knowledge of the dispute which had led up to the possibility of this. He assured them that he had not been advised of or requested by Head office to look into this dispute and therefore was not in a position to answer questions as to what had taken place.

He explained what would happen if the members failed to elect Branch Officers to keep the Branch open, and how difficult it would be to re-open a Branch once it closed.

He requested the members to adjourn rather than close this meeting so to allow him to make notes of the Branch Secretary’s correspondence so that he could take the matter up direct with the General Secretary as to what had gone wrong at Head Office and he, himself would arrange to discuss the matter with Sectional Council ‘B’, with the view of the Branch being advised on both accounts of the position, which he helped would lead to fresh consideration being given to forming a branch at Tunbridge Wells for 1977.

This request was unanimously accepted and the meeting was adjourned at 13.20.

 

I have on 16th January 1977 read these beautifully written and well kept minutes, which are historically of great interest to the Society and the Trade Union movement.

Over the years these minutes indicate an efficient , dedicated and well run branch carrying out its function procedurally and constitutionally

Neil Milligan

Organising Secretary

 

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch the Adjourned A.G.M. Meeting

Sunday March 20th 1977 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman welcomed to Bro N. Milligan, organising Secretary, on his return visit to the Branch to give his assistance (if required) to elect members form a branch for 1977

The Branch secretary read the minutes of the last meeting of the adjourned meeting  of 16th January ’77, together with letters received from the General secretary and Organising Secretary in reply to his assistance that the matters that had led to the possible unavailability of members to form a branch for 1977 would be throughly looked into by both himself and General Secretary with a full explanatory sent to the branch.

The contents of these letters was given a very full discussion by the members and Mr. Milligan was asked if there was anything he could add to these replies. He explained there was nothing further he could say, and give fresh consideration at this meeting, to forming a Branch for 1977.

Further discussion was given to this and it was unanimously agreed that in the light of the assurances within the General Secretary’s letter, the Branch accepted the explanation given.

Correspondence

Circulars and correspondence was read by the Branch Secretary and from this a unanimously vote was given to the Eastleigh delegate for the labour Party Conference 1977, all other correspondence was accepted and put on Branch file.

Branch officers

The Chairman informed the members that with the acceptance of Head office explanation the next business of the meeting would be the election of the Branch officers of 1977 and called for nominations for these positions.

Branch Chairman A. Brooker, 

Vice Chairman B. Baldock, 

Secretary M. Allen, 

Asst. Sec W. Baldwin.

Committee 

Bros. F. Diplock, A. Young, R. Brown & A. Dougherty

District Council Delegates 

Bros. A. Brooker (1) & M. Allen (2).

It was unanimously agreed that Bros. A. Brooker and R. Bridger remain Branch Trade council Delegates. That Bro. K. Savage remain Branch Trustee and Bro. W. Baldwin remain L.D.C. Scrutineer.

L.D.C. Report 

The L.D.C. secretary, Bro. A. Brooker gave his report on matters that were being progressed by the L.D.C. at this time and brought to the attention of the members 2 items which required discussion at this meeting. 



 
BRANCH OFFICERS 1977-78
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BROOKER
ASS. CHAIRMAN. B. BALDOCK
SECRETARY. M. ALLEN
ASS. SECRETARY. W. BALDWIN  

    


           

 L.D.C. Report 

The L.D.C. secretary, Bro. A. Brooker gave his report on matters that were being progressed by the L.D.C. at this time and brought to the attention of the members 2 items which required discussion at this meeting. 

(1) Extra Sunday Booking

Due to the loss of Sunday duties at the depot the position of booking men strikly down the line of men due to work an extra Sunday duty (as per the L.D.C. minute) had become impossible to work and this had to be brought to the attention of the members for discussion.

It was agreed by the members that for a man to work a late extra Sunday duty without a clear 12 hours off before the commencement of his Monday duty could only be achieved by allowing the list clerk the right to move a man forward of his late early turn to accommodate the extra Sunday duty driver.

This was given a full discussion, and agreed that to allow this would take away the right of any driver to be able to make prior arrangements within his social life on what is his rostered booking on time of duty.

It was unanimously agreed that the L.D.C. minute should stay as it is (i.e.) with the names of the men due to work written in order from the top to the bottom of the list put out each Tuesday. But that men cannot be regarded as available for an extra Sunday duty, if there is not 12 hours between their Monday booking on time and the available Sunday duties booking off time.

(2) Rest day booking of men having agreed to work rest days if required.

It had been brought to the attention of the L.D.C. Secretary that the L.D.C. minute of giving 3 days notice to be booked of an a rest Day with it never being credited to the man wether he was due to work or not, had resulted at the end of this summer period, with there being an uneven balance on the Rest Day records chart and requests had been made that the rest days booking be carried out the same as extra Sunday booking.

This was given a full discussion and it was proposed Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded Bro. A. Goodwin. “That the rest day booking should remain  as the L.D.C. stands.” This motion was voted on and defeated 5 to 3.

It was proposed Bro. D Godden and Seconded Bro. P. Musselwhite. “That if a man failed to give 3 hours notice of his unavailability to work his rest days and refusing or declined to work a turn booked to turn he is marked off O/AC on the rest day chart.

If a man puts in 3 days prior to his rest day information the list clerk off unavailabilty to work his rest day, only if he would have worked is he credited own account.

This proposal was voted on and given a unanimous vote in favour of this system of booking to apply.

There being no other business the chairman brought the meeting to a close at 14.00 hrs.

 


Rodney Simpson at Eridge

Rodney, came down from Dundee to T.W.W., and with the closure of the ‘Wells’ he moved to Fratton 


depot 

 

  Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday May 1st 1977 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the meetings of the 16th January and the 20th March 1977. These being the Branch A.G.M. adjourned and the Branch A.G.M. continued. After an amendment by the Chairman it was moved F. Diplock and seconded A. Young that they were a true record.

Correspondence and circulars received since the last meeting were read out and items were discussed.

The Tunbridge Wells branch nomination of a candidate for Sectional council ‘B’ for 1978. A letter from Bro. W. Eames was read out in connection with this election and after some discussion and some reservations voiced, it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded F. Diplock. “That Bro. W. Eames be Tunbridge Wells Branch nomination.” This was agreed upon.

The question of a statement made by Bro. N. Milligan about presentation pen sets which the secretary said was being processed.

The question of a collection for Dougherty who it was thought had been off sick six weeks before resuming duty. The Secretary promised to investigate this matter. This being in line with the discussion made at the Branch meeting Sunday 17th November 1974.

A request by the L.D.C. Secretary that the Branch Secretary contact Head Quarters requesting that an official L.D.C. stamp be made available if possible for the use of the Tunbridge Wells L.D.C. The Secretary said that a request had been made and he was awaiting a reply.

On completion of the Branch Secretary’s report, the Branch Chairman expressed his wish that a sincere vote of thanks be given to the outgoing Branch Secretary W. Baldwin for the work which he has done for the branch over the past five years. This was echoed by all members present.

A vote of thanks was given by members present to F. Diplock for his time and trouble spent in preparing the roster cards. This vote being proposed W. Baldwin and seconded A. Brooker.

The Chairman reported to the Branch that discussion had taken place with the Branch Secretary on the question of the changeover of authority in respect of the Mutual Aid Fund and the Branch Banking. Also on the financial status of both accounts. He stated that the changeover authority between the outgoing Branch Secretary and incoming one was nearing completion and a financial report was expected at the next meeting.

The L.D.C. Secretary made his report on the meeting of 24th April with management. Minute L574 scrutinising of diagrams was agreed. L.D.C. minute 7 revised rest day rostering agreed, Storage of mopeds deferred, Car parking deferred.

Management stated that after discussion a new set of minutes would be drawn up and would be made available in the near future.

The L.D.C. Secretary reported that a meeting with management was being held on 2nd May and a report on this meeting would be made at the next branch meeting.

The L.D.C. Secretary was ask to investigate the booking of men who request a change the of roster for domestic reasons and grounds are considered to be in this catergory  where the Secretary replied that this would be looked into.

One item of business was entered into correspondence for the next meeting to be held. This being new proposals were put forward by T. Allen for discussion on branch procedure. But due to the lack of time at this meeting it was decided to hold this item over until the next meeting.

The Chairman brought the meeting to close at 13:10

Five members present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday July 10th 1977 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the meeting of the 1st May ’77 and it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded A .Young “That they wee a true record.”

Correspondence and Circulars received since the last meeting were read out and included the following. 

Letters from W. Eames and J. Richardson in conection with the Sectional Council ‘B’ elections. It was decided after a vote that W. Eames would be given Tunbridge Wells vote when the voting papers were sent and the Branch Secretary was given full authority to complete the voting paper and return it.

The Secretary reported that the nomination paper had been sent and received by Head office. The vote for W. Eames was proposed W. Baldwin

Items arising from the last meeting were reported on by the Secretary and were

A reply from Head Office re the supply of an L.D.C. rubber stamp which they said would not be complied with.

Presentation pen sets, a pen set had been sent for the Branch Chairman, and members said it was well deserved for the service he had given.

A question of a collection for A Dougherty thought to have been off sick for six weeks. The Secretary reported that this was looked into and was not in fact correct, he had only been sick for four weeks.

The Secretary was asked if the Branch funds had been sent to our Branch and he replied that they had not and he would contact Head Office.

The Chairman reported the changeover of authority from previous Branch Secretary to the present one in respect of the Branch banking and Mutual Aid Fund had been completed and statements from both accounts had been received.

The L.D.C. Secretary made his report on his attendance at District Council 4 meeting and on the following items

An L.D.C. stamp had been obtained and was now in use together with new locker keys

The refuelling apron T.W.W., the Secretary reported this item still being processed.

Annual Leave roster now posted and annual leave vacant date applications received and accepted.

A circular containing an item on double time being paid for working Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

Payment of wages, a meeting had been held over the payment of some wages from the loco by telephone attendants with the result that the telephone attendants were not in agreement with paying out wages and a further meeting was being held on Thursday 14th July ’77

A report by A. Ashdown on incorrect booking was being pursued by the Secretary and a letter sent to Head Office in connection with this. The secretary reported that he was awaiting a reply to this letter.

The L.D.C. Secretary was asked to look into the matter of new chairs for the drivers room TWW Loco. The Secretary said this would be looked into.

Items on Branch procedure were discussed and were deferred for further discussion.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:55

5 members were present

 

 Tunbridge Wells Special Branch Meeting

Sunday August 14th 1977 10.45 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman opened the meeting by stating that this meeting had been called to welcome Sectional Council member Bill Eames to give a report on the events surrounding the closure of the Eridge – Oxted line on Sundays. For the purpose of this meeting all normal branch business was suspended.

Bill Eames thanked the Chairman for the welcome and set out to give a full and graphic report on the events leading up to the threat of massive cuts in service and the result of intense pressure put on the B.R.B. to revise the list of cuts by seeing that money could be saved by cutting out non essentials and waste. He went on to describe the events leading up to and since the closure of the Eridge – Oxted Sundays and the future attempts that would be made to reinstate same.

Questions were asked after Bill Eames had finished his report on the possible reopening of High Brooms station on Sundays. The recent introduction of the half hourly Charing Cross – Hastings service causing delays to our Tonbridge - Eridge services and the decline in general of railways in the Tunbridge Wells area.

Bill Eames noted the questions and points put forward and hoped in conjunction with the L.D.C. would resolve some of the issues.

The Chairman having had to a leave a little earlier passed the Chair to the Branch Secretary who at 13:00 brought the meeting to a close with thanks to Bill Eames and Branch member for their attendance

5 members were present.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday September 18th 1977 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the last meeting held on the 10th July ’77 and it was moved B. Baldock and seconded W. Baldwin that they were a true record.

The Branch Secretary then read the minutes of the special meeting held on the 14th August ’77 and it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded B. Baldock that they were a true record.

Correspondence since the last meeting was read out and included

A voting  paper for the TUC regional council 1978/81 and it was proposed A. Brooker and seconded B. Baldock that W. Huchings be given the Tunbridge Wells vote as he then was.

One item arising from the last meeting was the Branch Funds which the Secretary reported had been received and deposited in the branch bank account.

The Branch Secretary then reported on an item on presentation. Since the presentation of a pen and pencil by A.S.L.E.F. Head office to the Tunbridge Wells Branch Chairman. Consideration was given to presentation to other branch officers, in view of the fact that A.S.L.E.F. Head Office did not make a presentation to Branch Secretaries until twenty years in office and no presentation was made to L.D.C. Representatives at all. It was considered that a token of appreciation to Branch officers K. Savage, W. Baldwin, A. Ashdown & F. Diplock in the shape of presentation pens should be made with grateful thanks for their efforts on behalf of the members of this branch.

The Branch Chairman wished to endorsed the action of the Secretary in this matter and said he had worked with these members in their various capacities and knew the time and effort that they had put in over the years. He thanked them both personally and behalf of the branch.

The L.D.C. Secretary made his report on the question of Sunday booking and the proposal for the future was that as from October ’77 that all Sundays be recorded to eliminate any unfairness due to the losses of Sundays during annual leave. Other items on the recording of Sundays in other circumstances was discussed at this time. After which it was moved B. Baldock and seconded R. Sulivan. “That all Sundays be recorded.”

An amendment to the minute regarding the parking of cycles and mopeds was discussed and it was agreed that the management be informed that their proposal on this issue was acceptable to the members.

The secretary reported on alterations to the new roster for October ’77, the delivery of new chairs for the drivers room Tunbridge Wells loco and items in connection with the 1978 timetable.

The L.D.C. Secretary was question on the alterations for the weekend workings for 17th October and after discussion among members it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded R. Sulivan. 

“That the L.D.C. was out of order in assisting management with the revised workings issued on Friday 16th September, as it is not part of the provision of minute L574, that they do the work of diagrammers or rosters, only scrutinise it.” 

This motion was carried three vote for none against.

A motion was put by R. Sulivan requesting that the branch call for the resignation of B. Baldock from the L.D.C. in view of recent events surrounding him, was withdrawn after B. Baldock said that he would not stand for the L.D.C. at the end of his term.

It was proposed M. Allen and seconded W. Baldwin. “That the L.D.C. be supplied with all new issues of the National Conditions of Service book paid for with branch funds as they are no longer supplied to L.D.C.s by ASLEF Head Office.

There being no other business the Chairman closed the meeting at 13:20

5 members were present.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday December 4th 1977 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch Secretary read the minutes of the meeting of the 18th September and it was moved F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin. That they were a true record.

Correspondence since the last meeting was read but and included a letter from Bill Eames S.C. ‘B’ requesting the Branch consider holding a collection to be presented to H. Bagilhole on his retirement from S.C. ‘B’. Consideration was given and it was decided that the Branch Secretary take up a collection among the members of the branch. This collection to be supported by branch funds as necessary.

A collection for V. Rumley and Mutual Aid payment to him of £17.17 and £3.60 respectively .

J. Vigar petrol allowance still being dealt with at this time.

Letters from K. Savage and A. Ashdown expressing thanks for the presentation pen, a letter from Redhill Branch Secretary re closed line Hurst Green Junction to Birchden Junction Sundays, which members of the Branch said should be replied to by the Secretary.

The Health and Safety officer nomination paper had been forwarded to Head Office for their attention.

An application form for Society National School was presented to the Branch and it was moved A. Brooker and seconded w. Balwin. “That M. Allen should be this branch’s nomination.

After the branch Secretary’s report W. Baldwin and F. Diplock wish to add their thanks to those of A. Ashdown and K. Savage for the presentation pens.

The L.D.C. Secretary made his report on District council 4 meeting of 31st October ’77. 

Meetings with management on STOPS, 1978 timetable, amendments to L.D.C. minutes 2 Sunday booking, 14 parking of  mopeds.

The Secretary reported that meetings would be held on 12th December, 14th December and 19th December in connection with L.D.C. minutes. Christmas holiday period ’77, payment of wages T.W.W.

The L.D.C. Secretary was asked to purse the matter of uneven surface of platforms as they were becoming a danger.

Lighting in the loco shed for the parking of mopeds and perhaps the filling of the pit adjacent to No.4 road. The Secretary said these matters would be looked into.

After the L.D.C. Secretary report the Chairman asked for nomination for the 2 L.D.C.  position as the two L.D.C.  members had reached the nend of term who were in office at this time.

It was proposed F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin. “That A. Brooker be nominated for one position

It was proposed  A. Brooker and seconded F. Diplock that W. Baldwin be nominated for the other position.

The two nominees accepted.

Consideration was given to the candidates for the 1978 A.A.D. and a vote taken with the result that P. Plaine of Brighton would be given our vote 4 for and 1 against.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 12:45

4 members were present.


  Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday February 12th 1978 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Branch secretary read the minutes of the meeting held on 4th December ’77 and it was moved F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin that they were a true record.

Correspondence since the last meeting was read out and included the following.

The collection for S.C. ‘B’ Chairman H. Bagilhole which amount to £5.10 which had been forwarded to B. Eames and a letter from the Branch to R. Lifford had been sent.

A letter from Head Office cancelling the T.U.C. Course which A. Brooker was to attend.

A circular naming the students to attend the Society National  School at Dorking on February 19th to 24th , which included this branch’s nomination M. Allen.

Statement of the account from the Bristol & West Building Society in connection with Mutual Aid Fund

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on the following items.

Letters had been sent and development awaited on

The modification to Unit 1310, the position with regard to Forge Farm Crossing new barrier and operation by trains of tredal devices.

The amendment to the speed restriction 40 m.p.h. over the section between Birchend down distant and 50 m.p.h. restriction over curves at Birchend down home signal.

The question of drivers acting as guards to eleviate mass disruption to train service on 1st February.

As Required booking of drivers when a full weeks work is not available.

Questions were asked on the subject of booking of drivers who are As Required and after discussion the L.D.C. Secretary said that further correspondence would take place on this issue and the item may have to be listed for an L.d.C. meeting.

Questions were also asked on the mutual changing of turns between drivers and the subsequent application for comp leave by one of the parties. A full discussion took place on this with the result:- It was proposed L. Stevenson and seconded B. Baldock. “That this branch instruct the L.D.C. to seek to obtain an agreement with management that when two drivers change turns for a given period, then one driver goes sick or has a comp day or own account day during the period then the other reverts to his rostered turn.” This was unanimously agreed by all members present.

Questions were asked on the booking older of  drivers on bank holidays which the L.D.C. Secretary said were as fair as could be possible.

The L.D.C. Secretary report on meetings in connection with the proposed re-opening of the Oxted branch Sundays, and the May 1978 timetable.

A letter from K. Savage in conjunction with booking of Sundays and the L.D.C. letter of reply sent to him.

After the L.D.C. report the L.D.C. were asked to look into the P.N. point facilities at New Cross Gate, and the position surrounding the formation of the 16:11 empties New Cross Gate to London Bridge and the 16:40 London Bridge to Uckfield being increased from time to time from six cars to nine cars. The L.D.C. Secretary said that these would be looked into.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting  to a close at 13:53.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday April 30th 1978 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Chairman asked the members present to stand in silence as a mark of respect in memory of the late K. Savage.

The Chairman reported on the death of Ken Savage after a short illness and apart from the loss to his wife and family and to the members as a whole. It should be recorded that Ken’s death was a loss to the tradition of Trades Union and the promotion of working class people as he was always prepared to put a point view forward.

The Chairman reported the cancellation of the minute applying to the calling of meetings every two months on the third Sunday in the case of this meeting as circumstances had cause the cancellation of meetings which had been called on 2nd, 9th, 16th April.

Minutes of the meeting of 12th February were read out by the secretary and it was moved B. Baldock and seconded F. Diplock that they were a true record.

Circulars were presented and there were no matters arising.

A letter from Harold Bagilhole thanking the branch for the donation on his retirement. A letter from Bill Eames thanking the branch for their donation to the retirement fund for Harold Bagilhole.

Correspondence on the Political Fund exemption of P. Pepper, on the transfer of C. Exley from Neville Hill, Leeds to Tunbridge Wells, and the transfer of J. Vigar to Three Bridges from Tunbridge Wells.

A letter sent to Head Office in respect of the death of K. Savage and the secretary reported that suitable article would be to the Locomotive Journal.  A statement of the Branch funds in the National Westminster Bank.

Correspondence on the new service on the Oxted line Sundays and the engineers work which will affect the service.

The latest figures for the collection for K. Savage

Arising from the Branch Secretary’s report it was moved A. Brooker and seconded B. Baldock. 

“That an additional clause be added to rule 5 of the Mutual Aid Fund. Should any member die service the maximum payment be made as from death benefit and further that this shall take effect from 1st April 1978.

It was moved A. Bridger and seconded B. Baldock. 

“That the members of this branch wish to express their sincere thanks to those who helped to take up the collection for the late K. Savage and the secretary to write to those concerned.

It was moved A. Brooker and seconded M. Allen. 

“That this branch wish to thank sincerely  all those contributed to the collection for the late K. Savage and report that the sum of £10.00 was set aside for a floral tribute and the rest would be given to Mrs. Savage with a list of contributors.

The Branch Secretary reported on his attendance at the Society’s National School at Dorking and submitted his report.

The L.D.C. secretary submitted his report on his attendance at District council and pointed out an item on allowances for P.C., T.C. and other items. Discussion took place and members present felt that laid down timings for such work would serve no useful purpose and more information should be gained on this.

The Secretary reported on letters in connection with modification to Unit 1310, Forge Farm Crossing, speed restriction at the sight of the old Ashurst Junction, stock working on the 16:40 London Bridge – Uckfield service, annual leave for the new members of the branch and annual leave payments for A. Brooker and R. Brown.

The new pension scheme and its effect on drivers paying back and on pensions earning related.

The secretary reported on the agreements reached in connection with the booking of Holiday & Sickness Relief men and the changing over of duties of drivers.

The question of shed lighting where mopeds are parked and the sink in the drivers lobby T.W.W. were raised and the Secretary reported that these items were being processed.

There being no other business the Chairman brought the meeting to a close at 13:55

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday June 18th 1978 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Secretary read the minutes of the meeting held on the 30th April 1978 ant it was moved F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin. "That the minutes are a true record.”

Matters arising from the minutes of the last meeting were 

Reply had been received from the General secretary to the letter re the death of Ken Savage, the article submitted to the Locomotive Journal had been published, the collection for the late Ken Savage had been completed and amounted to £125.10 of which £10.23 had been allocated for a floral tribute and the balance £114.85 had been given to Mrs Savage together with a list of contributors.

In line with the decision to amend rules of the Mutual Aid Fund, the new clause had been added to the rules of the fund. In line with the rules of the Mutual Aid Fund the maximum payment as death benefit had been withdrawn from the Bristol and West Building Society and the amount of £7.20 paid to Mrs. Savage.

The position regards annual leave premiums for A. Brooker and R. Brown had received attention and the original mistake in the payment had been corrected.

The position with regard to the lighting in the loco shed No.4 road had been processed and the go ahead has been given and the work would commence in the future.

The position regards a new sink unit was being looked at in connection with the redecorating of the drivers room and developments awaited.

In line with the decision of the branch, letters had been sent and posted the collectors and contributors for the fund for the late K. Savage.

A letter had been sent to Head Office in response to their request for information on increased productivity and responsibility and their acknowledgement had been received.

A letter had been sent to Head Office requesting information as to why S.E.S. had not been paid to drivers for Sunday 23rd April.

A letter had been received from P. Plaine A.A.D. delegate for this area, giving the conference decision on all the items at this years A.A.D. a reply thanking him for the information had been sent.

A nomination form had been received for a vacancy for Sectional council ‘B’ (Central Division). It was moved F. Diplock and seconded A. brooker. That this branch nominate B. Noakes, Brighton No.2  for Sectional Council. Carried unan.

Arising from any other branch business the Secretary reported that the branch minute book was now full and it was moved M. Allen and seconded W. Baldwin. 

“That the Chairman enters a suitable postscript to the minute book which spanned some 30 years.

In light of the fact that it had been learnt that F. Fahey had passed away, it was moved M. allen and second W. Baldwin. 

“That the Secretary write to Mrs Fahey recording our deepest sympathy on the death of her husband. Carried unan.

The L.D.C. secretary reported on the following items

The position as regards the staff room at Eridge being opened on Sundays, the advertising of Sunday trains at London Bridge wrongly and the action taken.

The hot weather patrol now being used by the P&W department 

Correspondence in connection with the booking of spare men at Tunbridge Wells on Saturday late turn.

The new cattle grid installed at Uckfield and the position of drivers in relation to this. 

The latest position on annual leave premiums.

Arising from any other L.D.C. business was 

In light of the new proposals for the station building at Tunbridge Wells and the possible effect on the car parking the L.D.C. keep a careful check on any developments 

In view of the alteration to the diagram of 11:47 326 duty, the L.D.C. keep a check on this type of alteration.

A suggested new way of booking drivers on bank holidays was put forward. Drivers on bank holidays was put forward by L. Stephenson and after discussion it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded M. Allen. 

“That the proposed new way of bank booking holidays be posted together with a sample of the old way of booking and a letter explaining all relevant details connected with this.” Carried unan.

The chairman reported the in line with the A.A.D. decision with regard to branch standing orders the following procedure would be adopted.

A list of possible standing orders would compiled. 

The committee would be called together to discuss the proposed standing orders and make their recommendations.

The standing orders will be presented to the branch for their discussion.

The chairman declared that there being no other business the meeting be closed at 13:45.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

   Sunday September 10th 1978 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Secretary read the minutes of the meeting held on 18th June 1978 and it was moved F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin. That the minutes are a true record.

Matters arising from the last meeting was, the item on the suggested new way of booking drivers on Bank holidays, it was moved F. Diplock and seconded D. Ward. That in view of ASLEF Circular 156/1978 and its contents claim by the ASLEF for additional Bank Public Holidays, and the effect the outcome of negotiation on this might have on the present system or on any new system, of booking drivers on Bank Holiday, this item lie until call for. Carried Unan.

Circulars received since the last meeting which had been posted in the driver’s lobby were presented. It was moved F. Diplock and seconded W. Baldwin. That the circulars received since the last meeting be taken as read and contents noted.

Correspondence dealt with since the last meeting included, nominations form for A.A.D. Representative 1979. it was moved Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded Bro. M. Allen. That the contents be noted and developments awaited.

A voting paper for Sectional Council ‘B’ S.R. which had not been acted on du to a meeting arranged after the Branch Secretary’s holiday being too late for a vote to be cast.

The letter sent to Mrs Fahey was read out and a copy sent in line with Branch decision of the meeting held on 18.6.78.

Branch Funds 1978

Statement of account National Westminster Bank £19.54

Branch funds 1978 £13. 6

Bristol & West Mutual Aid Fund interest on account 30.6.78 £1.33

Bristol & West account £53.42

Trades Council fees £2.95

It was moved by Bro. A. Young and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. That the items contained in the Secretary’s report and his action taken noted. Carried Unan.

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on the following various items, opertaining to the booking of drivers in connection with weekend work had be passed to the Secretary and points contained therein were dealt with and answered by him.

With regard to Sunday working in Oct. 1978, a report on the latest position was given.

The weekend roster and work content was reported on and the roster accepted.

The Chairman declared that there being no other business, the meeting closed at 13.40.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday November 12th 1978 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Secretary read the minutes of the meeting held on 10th September 1978 and it was moved A. Young and seconded L. Stephenson. That the minutes are a true record.

Matters arising from the last meeting.

The question of booking of drivers on Sunday in relation to 317 & 318 duties. The  effect on extra Sunday booking and the further action contemplated by the L.D.C. in view of the discussion be suspended and further developments awaited and until then this item lay in the table. Carried Unan.

The Chairman reported that Ken Passmore of St. Leonards dept. had had a heart attack and died. Because of the fact that he been a member of this Branch in the past, he asked member to stand in silence as a tribute to departed colleague.

Correspondence dealt with since the last meeting were

Moved Bro. A. Uoung and seconded Bro. L. Stephenson. That this branch nominate Bro. D. Fullick for re-election as E.C. representative for group 40.

The Chairman gave his report on his attendance at District Council which included.

Hastings electrification, Oxted services Sundays.

The L.D.C. Secretay gave his report on F. Fahey’s pension details, A. Ashdown signing of unclaimed wages, P. Mussel-White change of two days annual leave, A. Ashdown claim for domestic leave.

Discussion took place on an item raised by Bro. M. Allen on the accommodating of drivers on other than rostered turns by the list clerk, no formula was reached as the Secretary saw no way to challenge this practice.

The Chairman advised the meeting that there would be two vacancies for the L.D.C. dealt with at this meeting as Bro. A. Young had reached the end of his term and Bro. F. Diplock who had covered the other one was retiring from dealing with diagrams full time.

The Chairman called for nominations

It was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. M. Allen be nominated as on of the Branch’s official ASLEF Candidates.

It was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded Bro. M. Allen. That Bro. A. Young be nominated as on of the Branch’s official ASLEF Candidates.

It was moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. D. Ward be nominated as one of the Branch’s official ASLEF Candidates

There being three nominations the Chairman informed the meeting there would be an election. A vote was called for by a show of hands and was as follows.

Bro. D. Ward 2, Bro. A. Young 2, & Bro. M. Allen 4

The Chairman informed the meeting that the position was that Bro. M. Allen receiving  a majority vote would be deemed elected at this purpose of a second vote as there was a tie for the other position.

A second vote was called for by the Chairman and was as follows

Bro. D. Ward 2 & Bro. A. Young 2.

The Chairman informed the meeting there was still a tie, after discussion it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded. That the second vote be taken again. Carried unan.

The second was taken again and was as follows

Bro. D. Ward 1, Bro. A. Young 3.

The Chairman informed the meeting that the voting was now conclusive,

Bro. D. Ward 1, Bro. A. Young 3, & Bro. M. Allen 4, and Bro. M. Allen and A. Young would be this branch’s official candidates for the two L.D.C. positions

It was moved by Bro. A. Brooker and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That Bro. F. diplock be elected scrutineer. Carruied Unan.

It was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. A. Brooker. That a sincre vote of thanks be given to Bro. Fred Diplock for the sterling service to this branch through the L.D.C. , diagrams and his concern for his fellow drivers, and the travelling public for who he worked so hard for so long. Carried Unan

The Chairman declared that there being no other business, the meeting be closed at 13.30

Addition

It was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That Bro. P. Plaine receive this branch’s vote for 1979 A.A.D. Carried.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Special Branch Meeting

   Sunday November 26th 1978 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman declared this a special meeting to discuss RSNT Decisions 60 & 61 and unofficial actions by some drivers. The Chairman gave an up to date run down on R.S.N.T. Decision 60 & 61 and the latest position as far as the E. C. were concerned. He reported that an emergency meeting had been called of  District Council no.4 at Arkwright Road in connection with the decision as of that the E.C. were meeting management on the same subject. Dates being 27th November and 28 November respectively.

The meeting then went to be along discussion and many points were covered. It was moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That on giving the latest position in connection with R.S.N.T. Decisions 60 & 61, full consideration at a special meeting of this branch and in light of E.C. Minute 2369. this branch reaffirms its decision of 12th November, 1978 minute 17/78. Carried Unan.

It was moved moved by Bro. A. Ashdown and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That this branch will support any action decided on a Regional basis at the Special meeting of District Council to be held on Monday 27th November, 1978. Carried Unan

It was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. young. That following any Southern Region decision, the E. C. decision will prevail. Carried Unan.

There being no other business the Chairman declared the meeting closed at 13.00

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Annual Meeting

   Sunday January 19th 1979 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Secretary read the minutes of the special meeting held on 26th November 1978 and it was moved F. Diplock and seconded C. Exley. That the minutes are a true record.

The Secretary read the minutes of the meeting held on 12th November 1978 and an amendment to minute 20e/78, line 3 delete eliminated insert deemed elected (A. Brooker), it was moved W. Baldwin and seconded F. Diplock. That the minutes are a true record.

Matters arising

The question of drivers being accommodated on other than their rostered turns for no reason, was raised but the Chairman ruled that the item should not come onto the branch floor until further discussion by the L.D.C.

Correspondence dealt with since the last meeting was

A letter had beenrecieved from the Branch Secretary, St leonards, thanking members of this branch for the collection taken up for the late Bro. K. Passmore, amount collected £11.00

An educational circular for L.D.C. Representatives had been received and the L.D.C. had nominated Bro. M. allen and Bro. A. Young to attend the course. Further to this a letter had been recievd acknowledging the nominations and advising that the nominated will be placed on the first available course.

A circular requesting nominations for the A.S.L.E.F. Society National Schools 1979, had been received and it was moved by Bro W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That this branch nominate Bro. C. Exley to attend the Society National Schools 1979. Carried Unan.

A reply to the branch letter of 19th November 1979 ref. RSNT 60, had been received from Head Office, ASLEF noted the contents and placing our letter before the E.C.

A letter from this branch had been sent to Head Office in line with the decision of the special branch meeting of 26th November 1978, reaffirming the decision rejection of the RSNT decision 60. further to this a letter from Head Office A.S.L.E.F. had been received acknowledging our letter noting the contents and placing the letter before the E.C. It was moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Branch Secretary’s report be noted.

The Branch secretary put forward thebranch accounts for the year 1978.

Tunbridge Wells Branch ASLEF bank £27.96

Mutual Aid Fund £56.32

It was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That the Branch Secretary’s report on the Branch Accounts be noted. Carried Unan.

The Chairman advised members that as this was the Annual Meeting of this branch, that nominations for Branch Officers would now take place.

Branch Chairman,  Bro. A. Brooker Vice Chairman. Bro. F. Diplock, Secretary. Bro. M. Allen, Assistant Secretary Bro. C. Exley

Trustee W. Baldwin, Scrutineer Bro. C. Exley, D.C. No.4 delegate Bro. A. Brooker, trades Council Bro. C. Exley

Branch Commitee

It was moved by Bro. A. Brooker and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock That other than the established Branch Committee members there be three ordinary members Carried unan 

Bros A. Ashdown, L. Stephenson & A. Dougherty were elected onto the Committee.

The Chairman declared the nominations and elections for the Branch officers over for 1979. The time date and place of meetings to remain same.

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report on items being dealt with.

Matters arising from any other business were

The poor running of the 10+00 New Cross Gate to Tonbridge and subsequent poor running of the 10.58 tonbridge to Eridge. The LDC Secretary reported that the matter would be put up at the next pre scrutiny meeting

The system of booking of drivers on bank holidays as I item 6c/78 be adopted and the LDC arranged to have the minutes amended.

It was moved by Bro. W. Balwin and Seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That the proposed new way of booking drivers on bank holidays be adopted and the LDC arrange to have the minutes to be amended. Carried Unan

The Chairman declared there being no other business the meeting closed at 13.05



 BRANCH OFFICERS 1979
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. A.BROOKER
ASS. CHAIRMAN. F. DIPLOCK
SECRETARY. M. ALLEN
ASS. SECRETARY. C. EXLEY 


 



 

Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

   Sunday April 22nd  1979 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Vice Chairman reported that Bro. A. Brooker, Chairman of the Branch had died after an illness os some 9 weeks at 09.00 a.m. on Friday 13th April 1979. Bro. A . Brooker aged 55 years was a long serving well respected member of the Branch. He was Branch Chairman for 18 years, L.D.C. member 27 years, L.D.C. Secretary for 18 years and had been associated with the branch in many other capacities. The loss to this branch was immeasurable and it was very rarely such a hard working man who worked for no reward, was to be found. Arnold was also involved with many other activities. Manpower Service commission Social Service, Trades Council, District council and others. The Vice Chairman asked members of the Branch to stand in silence, in memory of our departed colleague.

The Secretary read the minutes of the special meeting held on 14th January 1979 and after amendment it  was moved C. Exley and seconded F. Diplock. That the amended minutes are a true record.

Correspondence

Letter from Waterloo Branch requesting support for D. Fullick in the E.C. elections. A reply has been sent in line with branch decision.

A letter from Tonbridge Branch re unofficial dispute, it was moved bty Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the correspondence lay until called for. Carried Unan.

A letter from Bro. P. Plaine A.A.D. delegate asking for suggestions on items

A letter asking for support for Bro. A. Walkiden for Labour Party Conference

A letter from Bro. H. Love asking the branch to accept a donation for the branch funds in respect of the official strikes. It was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the donation be accepted and monies deposited in the branch bank and further a letter be sent thanking Bro. H. Love.

A voting paper for Labour Party conference  has been received and it was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That Bro. A. Walkiden be this branches nomination carried unan.

The collection for Bro. F. Diplock off sick six complete weeks and still off at the time, amounted to £24.30. Grateful thanks have been received. It was moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. The the Branch Secretary’s report noted. Carried unan.

The Branch Secretary reported that as from this meeting and as soon as it was possible he would have to resign his position as due to him taking over as L.D.C. Secretary and being Health & Safety Representative also he would be unable to put enough effort into all three jobs. He thanked all branch members for their co operation during his two years in office.

It was moved M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That Bro. C. Exley be nominated for Branch Secretary. There being no other nomination Bro. C. Exley was elected.

It was moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That Bro. M. Allen be nominated as Assistant Secretary. There being no ther nominations Bro. M. Allen was elected.

The L.D.C. secretary gave his report on

317 & 318 duties Sundays, Machinery of Negotiations, R.S.J.C. L574, Rest Days on Strike days. It was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the  Secretary’s report be noted. Carried unan.

There being no other business the Chairman declared the meeting closed at 13.00. 

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday August 19th 1979 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The meeting at 10.30 a.m. by acting Chairman and it was move that the normal branch procedure be suspended to accommodate the visit to this branch be suspended to accommodate the visit to this branch by Executive Committee number for Southern Region Bro. Derek Fullick.

The meeting was informed by Bro. Fullick as to all the ongoing affairs of Head Office an a very full information and question time followed.

The Chairman of the meeting asked for a vote of thanks to be pass to Bro. D. Fullick for his time spent at our branch. Moved by Bro,. M. Allen and seconded Bro. L. Stephenson carried.

Bro. fullick replied that it was all part of his duties but he has enjoyed the visit to see how this branch was moving.

There being no other business the Chairman closed the meeting closed at 12.30 p.m.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

 Sunday September 23rd 1979 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman Bro. F. Diplock opened the meetings where requested to be read out by the Chairman. Bro. M. Allen asked rthat a full reading of the minute be carried out. This was backed up by the Chairman and duly carried out. The minutes were read by Branch Secretary Bro. C. Exley. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded Bro. W. Baldwin. That all minutes that were read a true record. 

The Chairman, the asked the Branch Secretary to read any correspondence and any late Head Office Office circulars which were received after a reasonable time with which they could have been posted for scrutiny by members of the branch.

The first item was was a letter from Hitchin Branch which is an appeal for the family of the late Bro. D. Marshall of that branch who had suffered and died of a heart attack.

A full discussion was held as to the merits of the appeal, Bro. W. Balwin stated that their was a minute pass to cover this item and requested the Branch Secretary to identify the same. The branch secretary replied that he would do the same. Moved by Bro.?? and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That the letter be held over until the required information could be found. Carried. Unan.

The next item of correspondence was a request by Bro. J. Carney that the Branch Secretary write to Head Office re railway hosing accommodation. At this date this item is still in motion. Moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded W. Baldwin.

That a satisfactory conduction to above item be gained. Carried no abstentions

The next item of correspondence was the alledged traffic offence incurred by Bro. D. Nye of this branch. Bro. D. Nye as this item had been In progress for a period of 12 months. The branch secretary stated that he was in correspondence with Head Office over this matter and hoped to gain a reply to this item shortly and would reply to this item at the next meeting of this branch.

The next item was a letter from acting area Welfare Officer and was being dealt with by L.D.C. Secretary.

The final item was a letter from E.S.T.A. that a public meeting which was to be held in Uckfield town hall on Monday the 24th September and requesting a member of this branch  to attend. Branch Secretary said he would be attending. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the branch secretary attend the meeting and report at next branch meeting the proceedings. Carried

Bro. M. Allen moved a late item of correspondence  to the Chair regarding the payment of wages after leave at Tunbridge Wells West. His request was brought to light because of Bro. A. Ashdown refusal to sign the unclaimed wages book adding that it was not necessary under the national payrole scheme. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That the Branch Secretary write to Head office to get their view on the matter.

The Chairman then moved onto L.D.C. report which was given by L.D.C. Secretary Bro. M. Allen. Bro. Allen then listed the following he was persuing which are as follows

Minute L574

This is a long standing problem between staff side and management side over  the interpretation out on L.D.C.  Minute 18 by management over the operation of L574 this matter is now been progress to Section Council ‘B’ and still unresolved at this date.

Recruiting of guards at T.W.W. he had an assurance that some new staff were being trained as guards from area station manager. 

Diagrams and their scrutiny, this was tied to L574 and its problem.

Engineering meeting with Chief Traffic Officer to be held in the very near future with the hope of getting advanced information for passenger arrangement during engineering possessions.

Minute 60 65 Booking on and off allowance was a new item and was been dealt with it was hoped to have more to say on the subject at the next meting.

Claims for loss of earnings due to cancelation of Sunday work. This was to test the new R.S.N.T. Decision on the same see circular 87/1979.

Fuel shortage

This was a very new item and was brought about by the cut back in fuel supplies to B.R. by its suppliers.

Ballot of over Sunday services.

The out come was a unanimous ‘Yes’ vote.

Establishment

The depot was to be given two extra spare turns which ment increasing the depot establishment by two new drivers.

L.D.C. claim for a extra Sunday turn to be given to the depot for C.M.E.E. purposes was still being persuade by this L.D.C. and Sectional Council.

Edenbridge   bank holiday extra trains because of Edenbridge and Oxted agricultural show to be held on bank Holiday Monday. The L.D.C. were awaiting the results of a management survey for that day.

Staff travelling by taxi

This was a item which had originate from a meeting by the South London joint L.D.C. Staff Side but it may have grave repercussions for T.W.W. staff.

Cover duties Monday to Friday

It was hoped that with the increase of  spare turns from October, that the 0500 spare and 1300 spare could be re-designated cover and the 0425 cover be made a preparation and running work turn.

Agenda for L.D.C. Meetings

This was another matter for which the local management were not prepared to give staff side a clear answer on this item was being pass to Sectional Council ‘B’ to be resolved.

Bro. R. Harper and accommodation of drivers on shunt work due to ill health or medical reasons. The ballot of the drivers at the depot to examine the possibility of finding work shunting at the depot a yes vot in favour of the same.

R.S.N.T. 52

This is tied up with Head Office circular 143/79 and this L.D.C. and branch were going to reply to this in due course.

Plug for electricity supply in mess room

Under the Health and Safety act, that a socket should be available for use in the mess room and it was a matter of urgency and the L.D.C. Secretary was in correspondence with the area depot manager.

This concluded the L.D.C. report.

The Chairman then asked for any other business

The Branch Secretary ask the branch’s permission to purchase a lever arch file. Moved Bro. C. Exley and seonded by Bro. M. Allen. That this branch purchase the necessary file from branch funds. 

Their being no other business the Chair man closed the meeting at 13.15 p.m.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Meeting

Sunday November 18th 1979 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock and there were five members present

The minutes of the September meeting were read out and is moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded Bro. A. Young. That the minutes were a true record of the September meeting. Carried Unanimously.

The Chairman then moved on to a very pressing item which was the collection that had been held for Bro. V. Rumley of this branch. Bro. Rumley retired from railway service on the 21st July, 1979. Their had been a collection held for him and £37.50 had been raised it was suggested by the Chairman that a function be held at a local hostery and that a gift as a token be presented to Bro. Rumley. Moved by the Chairman and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That a presentation pen set be purchase and presented to Bro. Rumley. Carried Unanimously.

The Chairman went on further to suggest that invitation to attend the function be sent to Mr. Bagihole ex Sectional Council ‘B’ Representative and long time friend of Bro. Rumley. Moved by the Chairman. That the Branch Secretary be instructed to write to both Bro. Rumley and Mr. Bagihole to inform them of this branch’s intention. Crried Unanimously.

The Chairman then went on to suggest a venue for the function and a date for the same. The venue was the Lord Cornwallis public house and the date was 29th November, which was a Thursday.

(The actual venue was changed to the Kelsey Arms, because the Lord Corwallis was already booked)

It was also moved that the branch Secretary write to Mr. Bagihole friend Bro. Rumley and also Sectional Council ‘B’ member be informed of the change. 

After the Chairman’s speech we were moved on to correspondence

National League for the blind were circulating a letter to all trade union branches in Great Britain which was a request for a collection they are holding to boast their funds. Move Bro. W. Baldwin. That this particular item was cover by a previous branch minute and therefore it should be held over till it could be cleared up.

After Circular the Chairman moved onto Items of correspondence.

Bro. John Carney, housing Albert road Tonbridge. That a letter been sent of to A.S.L.E.F. Head Office but  matters had progressed since this letter and been sent and the branches support was know longer required.

East Sussex Travellers Association, and a meeting which was held at Uckfield Town Hall and a further meeting at Brecon School, Crowborough.

That this branch would support the action of any association which as the stated aim of reinstating dismantled railway lines i.e .Lewes – Uckfield. Moved Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

This concluded correspondence.

The Chairman then requested the L.D.C. Secretary to give his report, the report follows.

Staff travelling in taxis, Bro. R. Harpers accommodation on 312 duty, Christmas Holiday Arrangements.

The gaining of three claims for payment for drivers who were booked off duty to cancellation of the empty trains to St Leonards West Marina on Sundays.

Radio communication on trains between cab and signal box.

N.U.R & A.S.L.E.F.

The setting up of one party to negotiated for footplate staff.

That concluded L.D.C. and District Council report, the Chairman then called for nominations for two vacancies on the L.D.C.

That Bro. J. Carney of this branch be nominated as the official L.D.C. candidate for the same. Nominated by Bro. A. Young and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

There being no other candidates, Bro. J. Carney was adopted as the official L.D.C. representative. This left one vacancy unfilled. The Branch Chairman stated that a request be sent to management asking that the closing date for nominations be extended to permit the branch to find a nominee.

The Chairman the asked for any other business.

Moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That this branch in accordance with Society rule No.37 clause 11 shall adopt a set of standing orders. Carried Unanimously.

There  being no other business the Chairman declared the meeting closed at 1300

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch Special Meeting

Sunday December 2nd 1979 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Special meeting concerned at the usual venue on the 2.12.79 at 1030. Addition to above minutes from additional meeting called to nominate as below and complte unfinished business held over. The elction of Branch Officwers for the yar 1980. These were conducted as follows.

The positon of Chairman was offered by the meeting to Bro. F. Diplock who accepted there were no contestants. The position of Branch Secretary was offered by to meeting to meeting to the existing Secretary who accepted as there were contestants the resolution there being no contestants the resolution was carried.

The sole remaining vacancy to be filled on the L.D.C. moved by Bro. M. allen and seconded by Bro. A. young. That Bro. D. Godden of this branch be nominated to fill the one remaining vacancy on the L.D.C. Carried unanimously.

There being no other contestants, Bro. D. Godden was duly appointed.

The position of District Council Delegate was offered to the L.D.C. Secretary as it was a past practice the two jobs had always be allied at this branch.

The positon of Trades Council delegate was also vacated as Bro. R. Bridger wish to relinquish his position on the same as their were volunteers who wish to the task. The Branch Secretary expressed his wish to fill the position as there were no contestants this was carried.

The Chairman then asked for any other business

The Branch Secretary then drew the attention of the meeting to circular 211/1979 T.U.C. Youth Conference and asked the Branch’s permission to be nominated to attend the same. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. C. Exley be nominated by this Branch to attend the T.U.C. Youth Conference. Carried.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch  Meeting

Sunday January 27th 1980 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The chairman was  Bro. F. Diplock, Secretary was Bro. C. Exley. There were five members present.

Minutes

Due to the fact that Secretary had mislaid his notes from the last branch meeting and were therefore left unread. The Chairman express his concern of this matter but suggested the meeting move onto items of correspondence.

Centenary Function

A letter sent from Union Head Office to all branches which set out the Society’s plans to celebrate its centenary with a function and social event at the South Bank, London, on the 10th April 1980. This letter also contained an induction for two member of this branch to attend same.

That two representatives from this branch be selected and their names be forwarded to Head office to receive a official Invitation to attend. Moved by Bro. R. Harris and seconded by Bro. R. Harper. That Bros. M. Allen and C. Exley be selected to represent  this branch at this function.

The next item was that Bro. C. Exley of this branch had been nominated by the Executive Committee to represent this Society at the T.U.C. Youth Congress at Congress House with Bro. R. Johnson of Stratford Branch and Bro. C. Buckingham of West Brompton branch. 

There being no further items of correspondence. The Chairman moved onto the next items which were circulars.

The Chairman moved onto L.D.C. report for this purpose he asked the L.D.C. Secretary to give details. 

Staff restricted to depot or shunting work due to illness or pending medical affairs report. This was for the items as they affected Bro. R. Harper of this item.

Management to afford facilities for drivers at depots full route learning over routes where they move been given rostered train work specifically duty 319 at T.W.W. depot.

The Secretary noted the progress so far with the issue of diagram scrutiny

This is typed in with the latter issue but was more specifically dealing with R.S.J.C. min L574.

Cover duties move especially at weekends at the progress made with management on this issue.

The L.D.C Secretary told the meeting of management’s policy in regard to D.E.M.U. No.1111, which was supposed to be the first of all these types of trains to be given a refurbishment and modification treatment and its future traffic action.

Free passes and their issue to staff this was the request by member of the depot to time free ticket issued to all staff at this depot at Tunbridge Wells West station.

Drivers who have written to management stating that they do not wish to work as driven assistants on the loan to other depots on any day more especially on Sundays.

The L.D.C. Secretary then moved onto Health and Safety and it  the progress made so far with these matters and a inspection he had made with the H&S inspector to Hempstead Farm Crossing near Uckfield. After giving details of this matter in progress the L.D.C. Secretary moved to T.U.C. run schools for L.D.C. and H&S delegates from all industries and he ask that he attend the same with the permission of the Branch. Moved by himself. That he Bro. M. Allen be this branch’s official delegate to attend a T.U.C. run scholl for Health and Safety at work. Seconded by Bro. J. Carney. Carried unanimously.

There being no other business the chair closed the meting at 13.15. 

  


BRANCH OFFICERS 1980
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. F. DIPLOCK
ASS. CHAIRMAN. W. BALDWIN
SECRETARY. C. EXLEY
ASS. SECRETARY. J. CARNEY 






 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch A Special Meeting

Sunday February 10th 1980 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

This meeting was called by the branch secretary on the request of Bros. M. Allen and W. Baldwin both Committee Members on the instruction of the Branch Chairman.

Bro. W. Badldwin was acting chairman as the branch chairman had other prior engagements.

Bro. J. Carney assistant Secretary was elected Secretary was Acting Secretary because the Branch Secretary had prior engagements.

The first item to be dealt with was the centenary function to be held at Queen Elizabeth Hall Southbank London to celebrate the 100 years of this union. When this item came before the last meeting there had been some misunderstanding as to just who could attend the above as the representatives of this branch. The circular No. 23/1980 received just after the last meeting clarified this point and in the light of which Bro. C. Exley reludantly stood down to allow Mrs. M.A.H. allen attend. Bro. C. Exley made known his action by letter to the meeting.

Moved by Bro. D. Godden and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That in the light of the information contained in Head Office circular No.23/1980 in respect of who could represent this branch.

That the representatives to attend the A.S.L.E.F. Centenary function April 1980 and the representative nominated from the last meeting be Bros. M. Allen and C. Exley be recinded and a new minute in favour of Bro. M. Allen and his wife attend as this branch’s representatives. Carrined unan. 

Moved by Bro W. Baldwin Chairman That the Branch Secretary to inform Head Office of the above branch minute.

The next item on the agenda was a letter sent from Victoria branch requesting this branch to hold a collection on behalf of the late Bro. W. Long of their depot.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That a collection be taken up by the Branch secretary of the behalf of the Late Bro. W. Long of Victoria.

A third item of the agenda of the meeting was deferred till a full branch meeting.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Special Branch  Meeting

Sunday April 20th 1980 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The chairman was  Bro. F. Diplock, Secretary was Bro. C. Exley. There were nine members present.

The Chairman opened the meeting and asked Bro. M. Allen L.D.C.  Secretary to give details of the meeting and the reason he asked for it to be called.

He explained details of the history of the grievance with local management. He went on to detail a ballot held early at the depot which the membership to back back the L.D.C. strong line after the 20th May, 1979. when other depots were given extra work when Tunbridge Wells depot was not, he went on to explain the whole history from 1976 after the B.R. S.T.O.P.S. exercise which affected the train service between Oxted and Eridge

After the above Chairman then put the matter to the floor where a full and very enlightening discussion was held. Where it was felt that Sectional Council ‘B’ had been ignoring matters at this depot and that a letter be sent to state this depot dissatisfaction with the way matters have been dealt with.

Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the Branch Secretary write a letter to be addressed to the general secretary personally stating the following.

This Branch is concerned about the lack of interest given by sectional council ‘B’ over Sunday duties at this depot are been that  we at this depot are being victimised by the Divisional managers office at Croydon. Carried unan

A further minute as follows

Moved by the L.D.C secretary with the backing of the whole depot via a vote taken on the 30th July 1979 seconded by Bro. J. Norris

That a day of action be held Tuesday 22nd April 1980 and if management try to implement the same or very similar duties for Sunday 27th April we take another day of action on Friday 25th April. This action is to be a 24 hour withdrawal of labour in each case.

All the forgoing as per submitted to the Area Depot Manager Friday 18th April 1980. 

 

 

Pat Pepper

The photo was taken from the Bluebell re-union Video

David Dixon Collection

MP12 course, Oct 1979 to April 1980.

Back row L-R, Neil (from Tonbridge), Dave Dixon (Basingstoke), John Robinson (Eastleigh) & Gerry Ellard (Tunbridge Wells West), Front L-R Paul Teti (Brighton), Pete Roberts (Instructor) & Pete Joshua (Eastleigh

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch  Meeting

   Sunday May 4th 1980 10.50 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Chairman was  Bro. W. Baldwin, Secretary was Bro. C. Exley. There were six members present.

The Minutes of the last meting where read out. This meeting was held on Sunday 27th January 1980 Bro. M. Alen moved the minutes were true record, seconded by Bro. J. Carney.

The minutes of meeting before the above were a true record due to the fact the the minutes were incomplete at the last full meeting. Moved by bro. j. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

The minutes of the Special Meeting held on Sunday 2nd December 1979 were a true record were a true record. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney.

The minutes of  Special meeting held on Sunday 20th April 1980 were a true record. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney.

The chairman brought the meetings attention to a point in the minutes of the meeting of Sunday 18th November 1979 and also a letter in front of him from Bro. V. Rumley retired of this Branch. The letter was a thank you from Bro. Rumley after a retirement function had been held in his honour at the Kelsey  Arms Tunbridge Wells.

The Chairman moved to the Branch Secretary a vote of thanks for arranging the same. He then put before the Branch that the secretary write to Bro. V. Rumley inviting to become an honorary member of this Branch.

Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson . That the branch Secretary write to Bro. V. Rumley inviting him to be an honorary member of this Branch. Carried Unan.

Bro M. Allen the moved from the floor that this meeting express via  a letter a vote of thanks for all the stirling work put in by him over the past years to Bro. Bridger. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the Secretary write to Bro. Bridger to express a vote of thanks to him for his work in the Branch. Carried unan

The Chairman then brought the meetings attention  to minute 71/80 which is a request from Victoria branch that we at this branch  hold a coolection for Bro. W. Long’s family after Bro. W. Long had died. Suddenly the Chairman had asked why the Secretary had not held a collection. 

The secretary brought the meetings attention to the fact that he had requested that Victoria branch hold a collection for Bro. V. Rumley on his retirement which they failed to do. The Chairman then asked the Secretary to hold a collection for Bro. long has his was a death and it was always the policy of this branch to help the family of a member of this union who died suddenly  whilst employed by British Rail.

The Chairman moved onto Branch minute and asked this minutes had now expired, that a new minute be made to cover this subject.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded D. Ward. That on every occasion until further notice that other depots are rostered work on Sundays south of Oxted on the Uckfield line, and this depot is not given equal share of the work above Oxted. Industrial Action will be taken by this branch. Carried unan.

The Chairman asked that further to the above a letter of protest to be sent by the Secretary to our Union Head Office for the attention of the General Secretary with a copy of the same be sent to the Organising Secretary to complain at the lack of interest been shown by these people and by the Sectional Council ‘B’ in this branch’s dispute. It was moved from the floor that this branch as a form of protest do not support the stand given by this union to the T.U.C. day of action on May 14th 1980. Further if this did not bring the required result, that the membership of this branch to change their union.

Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. D. Ward. That the Branch Secretary write to our Head Office stating this branch’s disapproval of their lack of action over this branch’s dispute with local management.

The Chairman then moved to voting paper received from head office after the following item.

T.U.C. District No.2 election of delegate Bro. J. Rowe was given this branch’s support.

Labour Party Conference District No. 2  election of delegate Bro. E.A. Stratton of Eastleigh was given the Branch’s support.

Section Council ‘B’ election of representative for the Central Division Bro. W.T. Eames was given this branch’s support 

Parliamentary Panel This paper was not voted upon as there were no candidates from the Southern Region.

The Chairmen then moved onto L.D.C. report and called for the L.D.C. Secretary to give the same. The L.D.C. Secretary listed the items which are as follows.

Failed staff, route learning, diagrams, cover duties, 1111 D.E.M.U. refurbishment , free passes, Oxted plan for rail network and its future, Car parking and motorcycling at the depot at T.W.W. and dispute – Oxted line services.

Health and Safety, a visit by inspecting officer to visit Tunbridge Wells area on June 18th 1980.

The Chairman then asked for any other business.

A movement from the floor by Bro. L. Stephenson That the Branch persue a agreement with management over the way in which rest day working is booked to individual drivers. The Chairman asked that as time was getting short that this item rest till the next meeting.

Moved by  Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. allen. That at the next branch meeting we adopt standing order. Carried

The chairman closed the meeting at 13.45 and asked that the next meeting be held one month from the date of the meeting now recorded.

 

 Tunbridge Wells Branch  Meeting

   Sunday June 22nd 1980 10.50 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The Chairman was  Bro. F. Diplock, who opened the meeting. With four members present.

The Minutes of the last meting where read out and it was brought to the attention of the Secretary that there was an error in the following paragraph in the section of voting papers. Third paragraph sixth letter the word not was omitted from the same. This was rectified and initalded by the chairman. It was then moved by Bro. J. Carney.and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the minutes were a true record of the meeting held on Sunday 4th May. Carried unan

The chairman then moved onto the next item of business which was this branch’s adoption of standing orders in accordance with society rule no.37 paragraph II. The orders where drawn up by Bro. J. Carney and were fully discussed and it was put tot the floor to adopt the same when they had been rectified and altered. That the standing orders has drawn up by Bro. J. Carney be adopted by this branch. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley.

Chairman then moved to Head Office circulars and correspondence 

Letter from A.S.L.E.F. head office dealing with centenary silver badges.

Letter from Bro. N. Milligan District Organiser for District, concerning this branch’s dispute with local British Railways management.

Letter from Doncaster branch who are holding an appeal on the behalf of a member of their branch Bro. J. Burden who has suffer an illness of some severity.

The Chairman then asked if their were any items arising out of the items of correspondence.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That old minute dealing with the way this branch donated to request for financial help to our fraternity on other regions other than the Southern Region be recinded and the following be adopted.

That we at this Branch will now donate to any collection for loco-men on any region. This collection to be held at the loco depot only where the collection its for man known to all the staff at Tunbridge Wells West then the collection be held at the station as well.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to put forward the following recommendation in the light of the low standing of the branch funds due to raising administration costs. That we at this branch investigate the possibilaty into fund raising activities to boast branch funds. The Chairman asked Bro. J. Carney who has done this sort of work before make a recommendation at the next branch meeting.

The Chairman then called upon the L.D.C. Secretary to give his report of matter arising to the meeting.

L.D.C. items

D.E.M.U. specifications, Track Circuit Clips, Unit 1111 this item still standing, drivers to be trained in the use of fire fighting equipment,

Plan for rail network Oxted area. The L.D.C. expected a meeting with Central Division Management to discuss this subject with Sectional Council. 

Energy conservation fuel shortage re the strengthening of the 06.22 empty train to Uckfield from 6 cars to 9 cars.

Cover Duties. Redignation of 04.00 a.m. to 05.00 a.m. also 13.00 cover Monday to Saturday and the gaining of a Saturday only 12.30 C.M.E.E. cover and Sundays 07.00 a.m. cover.

Oxted line Sunday services, the retiming of the Uckfield to Tonbridge service to make a connection at Tonbridge with Reading service.

Driver R. Harper at T.W.W. who is medically restricted.

The Chairman then asked the meeting if their was any other items of business to be brought before the meeting. 

The Chairman then declared the meeting closed at 12.55 p.m.

 

Tunbridge Wells Branch  Meeting

Sunday October 19th 1980 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The meeting was attended by 12 members of the Branch and the chairman was  Bro. F. Diplock  who opened the meeting at 10.30 a.m.

The Minutes of the June meeting put before the meeting. As this was the last full meeting as this was the last full meeting of the branch due to the fact that august meeting failed to gain a quorum.

The minutes of the June meeting were a true record of the business of the branch. Moved Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. adopted.

Items of correspondence were the first matter put before the branch by the chairman. The secretary put before the meeting letters received by this branch from branches in the society who were requesting this branch donate to collections held by them for members of their branches who have suffered disabilating illnesses. A minute was now in order at and to facilate this. The secretary ask that we adopt some form of fund raising to enable this branch to donate to these and any further requests. It was suggested by the floor that the secretary and the chairman hold collections on behalf of the already received letters till such machinery can be set up to deal with this minute. All other letters of request from affiliated charities be dealt on merit by successive branch meetings. 

The Chairman then asked the meeting to move on to head office circulars which had been posted in the drivers mess room at Tunbridge Wells West depot. These included all the circulars which would have been dealt with at the cancelled August meeting.

The Chairman raised the implications of Circular 219/1980 loss of traffic and proposed cuts in traffic, and the way it was to affect this depot especially in the light of what he had been told by the L.D.C. Secretary who had received correspondence from. B.R. southern Region in relation to loss of earnings due to abandonment of weekend services.

The Chairman then moved to L.D.C. nominations for two positions which were up for renewal.

Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That Bro. M. Allen be re-elected to L.D.C. to continue his good work as the secretary. Carried Unan.

The second position for the L.D.C. was then put before meting, it was moved from the floor that Bro. G. Brown of ‘B’ shift has indicated verbally that he would be prepared to stand, but as he did not indicate by letter to the meeting or by the fact that he did not attend the meeting.

Moved by Bro. D. Ward and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That Bro. A. Young be asked to retake his position on the L.D.C. Carried 11 for and 1 against.

The Chairman then moved onto notice of motion as presented by Bro. J. Carney, they are as follows.

Motion 1

The T.W.W. branch be held every 3rd Sunday of each month to discuss normal branch and union business also to deal with L.D.C. business. This motion was differred to the Annual General Meeting.

Motion 2

The winter leave for 1981 and every year will be split into two one week periods i.e. one week in the early part of the year and the other in the later part of the year.

An amendment to motion No.2 was moved and was as follows

After year in the first line substitute the follwing. That we pursue three weeks to be taken in the summer period and one week in the winter period.

The Chairman asked the meeting to first consider the amendment and opened the discussion to the floor were the opinion was that B.R. management would not consider such a request and therefore asked the amendment to be withdrawn. That amendment to notice of motion be withdrawn. Moved by Bro. D. Ward and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin

The floor was then asked to vote on the minute and gave the following result 2 for 10 against and the amendment was lost.

The Chairman moved to the motion and the following was adopted hat this branch adopt the notice of motion. Moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. J. Norris. The meeting was asked to vote on the motion and gave the following result. 10 for the motion and 2 against, the motion was carried.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary to report on their business.

Mutual change of duties, meeting called by management, R. Harper who is medically restricted.

The gaining of an early turn to complement the late turn he already has (a ballot was held to ask members of ‘B’ shift if they approved of the L.d.c. action the outcome of which was as follows 10 for 1 against and 1 no).

Proposed new roster to accommodate Bro. Harper on these new turns of duty from November 14th 1980.

Annual leave which is adjusted to accommodate training will be treat by management and any new date will be honoured.

Complaints after installation of new rubbish disposal bins adjacent to car park which could possibly damage drivers car staff side have reported that these be moved.

319 duty and the movement of empty stock from London Bridge station to New Cross gate and Selhurst, Trees and foliage, cuts in services and B.R.S. proposal as they affect this depot i.e. loss of Sunday starting from the 1st of June 1981.

That concluded L.D.C. report and the Chairman then asked for any other business as there was not any forthcoming, the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.40 p.m. with a thank you to all attended a very good meeting. 

 

Tunbridge Wells Annual General  Meeting

Sunday  December 1980 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The meeting opened 10.30 with five members present.

The minutes of the meeting held at the above venue on Sunday 19th October 1980. Moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That the minutes of October were a true record. Carried Unan

As this is the Annual General Meeting the Chairman moved to the election of Brach Officers. Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That all officer of the branch be returned from the year 1980 and also that the the Chairman be appointed as a  further trustee for this branch. Carried Unan

The Secretary brought to the attention of the meeting the fact that we at this branch did not have a deputy to attend the District Council No. 4 meetings. The general feeling of the meeting was that as the meeting of the D.C. are only held once every quarter and it was felt that we therefore did not require a deputy.

After these items the Chairman moved onto correspondence and the Secretary brought before the meeting the following letters.

Labour Research Department

This letter was to request either individual members or the branch collectively to consider subscribing to this service.

After this matter the meeting progressed onto voting papers. We had one voting paper requesting that this branch consider the following. Bro. Plaine of Brighton No.2 branch s the delegate for this area who attends 




BRANCH OFFICERS 1981
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. F. DIPLOCK
ASS. CHAIRMAN. W. BALDWIN
SECRETARY. C. EXLEY
ASS. SECRETARY. J. CARNEY


 



the Annual Assembly of Delegates. But Bro. Marchant  of St. Leonards Branch would like to be considered to take the place of Bro. Plaine at the Annual Assembly of Delegates.

Bro. M. Allen suggested that if the Bro. Marchant of St. Leonards was elected perhaps he would bring new ideas forward at the Assembley and Bro. Allen moved that perhaps this branch should support Bro. Marchant of St. Leonards. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That this branch vote for Bro Marchant of St Leonards.

The Chairman then called upon the L.D.C. Secretary to give his report on L.D.C. items and also his report of District Council meetings.

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report of District Council No. 4 meetings he stated that the General Secretary addressed the meeting by giving his report following the publication of the Monopolies’ and Mergers Commission report in the London and South East area rail services. The General Secretary stated that the use of lieu or compensation days plus days leave without pay were included in the total of days that the national press used as absenteeism days. The L.D.C. Secretary then went on to list the other items of business of the D.C. 

After addressing the meeting with the fact of the D.C. meeting, the L.D.C. Secretary then went on to items of the L.D.C. business which was as follows.

Faults & Failure Guides, B.R. owned Housing Accommodation and Bro. R. Harris. He then went to list items which were in correspondence and Health & Safety, these were as follows.

Staff sided request for cover turns at weekends.

Eridge engineer’s sidings down siding

Mutual exchange of shifts by Bro A. Rigby and Bro. G. Ellard. 

Outstanding Annual Leave taken it could be taken subject traffic requirements. Request by Driver Plummer to have lieu leave on December 24th 1980. Refused by management because of holiday arrangements. Uncertified leave, sickness reasons due to staff not having been paid after of less than three days because they refuse to complete the forms posted to them from the Area Depot Manager.

That concluded L.D.C. report the Chairman then requested the meeting for any matters arising from the L.D.C. report. The membership asked that the Branch Secretary write to A.S.L.E.F. Head Office to get the E.C. to back our cause against the Area Depot Manager over the payment for uncertified leave due to sickness. The Chairman back this call and so he instructed the secretary to do the same and to enclose the forms that A.G.M. posted to the members of this branch.

The Chairman then asked for any other business.

It was moved that we at this branch adopt the fund raising scheme as suggested by Bro. J. Carney. That this branch adopt a football pontoon to raise funds for the use of the branch. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. Carried Unan

After this the Chairman asked for any other business, there was not any forth coming then the chairman closed the meeting by thanking all for attending the meeting closed at 13.45 p.m. 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

January & February 

Sunday 15th  February 1981 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock and the Secretary was Bro. J. Carney due to the fact that Bro. Exley had worked a late finishing duty for the previous night.

There were 6 members present when the meeting opened at 11 o’clock.

The Chairman asked for he minutes of the last meeting were brought before the meeting and were taken as a true record of that meeting. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded Bro. C. Exley. Carried unan

The Chairman then apologised to the meeting for not calling the January meeting but he moved that the next meeting take place on Sunday 22nd March 1981.

Bro. W. Baldwin asked the Branch Secretary if he had written to A.S.L.E.F. Head Office to secure payment for members of this branch who have not been paid when they had taken days from duty due to sickness and if he had, had a reply.

The Secretary Bro. C. Exley informed the meeting that he had sent the letter to A.S.L.E.F. but at this date he had not received a reply, he brought before the meeting a copy of the letter he sent to Head office.

Bro. Baldwin asked the Chairman to hold the progress of the meeting until he had left because he had to start his duty.

The Chairman then moved the meeting to Head office circulars. The Chairman asked the meeting to note that if the society had received the circulars then would he past them in the drivers messroom at the depot. The Chairman further moved that the circulars which were posted for this meeting be reposted in the drivers mess room he asked the member to note. It was then moved by Bro. J. Norris and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That all circulars to be taken as read to be posted in the drivers mess room until the next meeting.

The Chairman progressed the meeting to items of correspondence the Secretary read out three letters and items of correspondence which were in progress. 

1 Bro. C. Exley re incident at Tonbridge

2 Bro. R. Harris re accommodation

Bro. L. Stephenson re fatality at Lingfield and his treatment after the incident.

The L.D.C. secretary had one item of correspondence he had one item to bring to the notice of the meeting.

This item was the way in which the A.D.M. issued a form one item to bring to the notice of the meeting.

The chairman asked the meeting to instruct Bro. H. Love who is a member of this society but is employed as a time keeper at the depot, not to accept delivery of form one type of charge no should he sign in writing for responsibility of the same.

The Chairman then asked for matter arising from of correspondence and head office circulars.

Bro. C. Exley then asked the membership of the meeting that if any member of this branch wished to attend the society school at Dorking for 1982 let him know as soon as possible because this year this school had been over subscribed and he felt that the earliest we could submit and application to gain a place on the course.

The Chairman the moved the meeting to Head Office circular the Chairman asked the meeting to note that if the society had received the circulars then would he past them in the drivers mess room at the depot. The chairman further moved that the circulars which were pasted for this meeting be reposted in the drivers mess room he asked the members to note.

It was then moved by Bro. J. Norris and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That all circulars to be taken as read to be posted in the driver’s mess room until the next meeting. Unan.

The Chairman progressed the meeting to items of correspondence which were in progress

Bro. C. Exley re incident at Tonbridge, Bro. R. Harris re accommodation Bro. L. Stephenson re fatality at Lingfield and his treatment after the incident.

This item was the way in which the A.D.M. issued a Form One change to a member of this branch. The Chairman asked the meeting to instruct Bro. H. Love, who is a member of this Society, but is employed as a Time Keeper at the depot, not to accept delivery of the Form One type of charge nor should he sign on writing for responsibility of the same.

The Chairman then asked for matters arising from items of correspondence and Head Office circular.

Bro. C. Exley then asked the membership of the meeting that if any member of this branch wished to attend the Society school at Dorking for 1982 let him know as soon as possible because this year this school had been over subscribed and he felt that the earliest we could submitted a application to gain a place on the course.

As there were no other matters arising the Chairman asked the L.D.C. Secretary to give his report.

Uncertified sickness – a letter had been sent to Sectional Council ‘B’ and they replied that a meeting with management is to be held over this matter.

I.U.P. Payments – It was discovered that no payment was made when members were going to attend medical examination. Sectional Council’B’ were requesting a meeting with management over this.

Bro. R. Plummer – Bank Holiday – day off duty with loss of pay was declined by the A.D.M. this was resolved with Bro. J. Norris.

Bro. Herriot Query over payment of wages

Operation of machinery of negotiation  - still pending 

Bro R. Harris accommodation now been handled over to A.S.L.E.F head office awaiting reply.

Disciplinary letters sent from A.D.M. to M.P.S. or driver concerned by Leading Railman

Bro. R. MacDonald – claim for driver rate of payment which had been turned down now has been paid.

Sunday workings been issued after the L574 scrutiny on duplicate sheets which showed train retimings from Tonbridge o the 1st February 1981. a reply has now been received.

Cover duties now have been implemented from Saturday 21st February 1981 = 332 Saturday 16.00 will now become 12.30 and cover duties = 320 06.00 cover duty.

Claim by Bro. J. Norris over loss of driving duty Sunday. Management now waiting reply from Bro. J. Norris.

The Chairman then move the following items which he thought should be passed.

He asked if the Physical Needs Break for Duty No.326 could be moved from New Cross Gate because the membership at the branch thought that the facilities there were not adequate. He felt that London Bridge would make the best place to have the break rostered. The L.D.C. Secretary replied that this was now in hand and should take place at the March Permanent Alterations.

The Chairman then asked about the use of Diesel Electric Units on which the Advance Warning System was operative. He highlighted the use of unit from theSouth Western Division which had A.W.S. operative and were coming into use over Central Division lime where A.W.S. had been fitted but the driver had not had full A.W.S. training.

Bro. Allen replied that has far as he was concerned he and a few other drivers were trained, and he had not isolated the system because he felt it gave us all a chance to use the equipment before it became standard practice on Central Division, if it was felt that the drivers who had not been trained on it use were uneasy over its operation then he and those who had been trained in its operation should take steps to isolate the system until all had been trained until use. The fact that it was totally new to some of the members of this branch made them feel uneasy about the approach to Victoria were it was operative did not stop them from obey the signals displayed required less of the indication in cab given by A.W.S.

The Chairman then asked Bro. J. Carney to give his report of the pontoon funding raising. Bro. Carney inform the meeting of the response and said that there would £2.10 to enter to branch funds when it had been completed.

The Chairman asked for any other business as none was forthcoming  he closed the meeting at 13.00 and thanked all for attending.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 29th  March 1981 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were five members present, the Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock

The Chairman opened the meeting at 11.00 a.m. and asked the secretary to read before the meeting the minutes from the last meeting.

That the minutes of the February meeting were a true record of that meeting. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. Carried Unan.

The Chairman then asked Secretary to put before the meeting the items of correspondence.

Bro. A. Rigby and his request to the Secretary to get for him a card to allow himself to stop paying his political fund.

Letter from A.S.L.E.F. which was requesting branches to supply information of Branch Funds and also due to the increasing costs of administration the Society’s attempts to hold down expenditure.

Letter from A.S.L.E.F. which is a reply to a letter from this Branch to supply A.S.L.E.F. with details of the stand taken by B.R. Management when members have taken one or two days from duty because of sickness. I asked that this branch supply details of members who have not been paid because of the stand of Management.

Letter from Trades Council with a form to return to T. C. giving details of Branch Officers.

One further item of correspondence was for a driver who is under Railway Medical Officers Supervision.

The Chairman then moved to L.D.C. business.

Route Learning i.e. Selhurst and the loss of Sunday work.

The Chairman then moved onto any other business and matters arising The L.D.C. Secretary then gave a detailed report of the progress with lost of Sunday Work from the 1st July 1981. He listed the costs and losses incurred and the counter argument as put forward by management. There was full discussion and the meeting gave full support to the L.D.C. in its action to presume the work which we at this branch feel we are about to loss. 

After this discussion the Chairman  asked for any other items.

The Secretary asked that the meeting endorse the Secretary in his move to have the Executive Committee member of Southern Region, Bro. D. Fullick to attend the May Branch meeting to inform the meeting of this Society’s current policy over wages and conditions of service and also  to present a number of long service awards to members of this branch.

That the Branch Secretary write to the E.C. Member with the intention of inviting him to the May Branch meeting. Moved Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

After the above the Chairman then called for any other business after which, as there was no more business he called the meeting to a close at 13.00 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Special Meeting

Sunday 26th  April 1981 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The business of discussing the loss of Sunday work and what action this branch can take.

There were seventeen members present, and the main item were as follows, the branch Secretary was unable to attend but he sent a letter to state that he would back any decision made at the meeting.

Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock, Secretary Bro. J. Carney and assistant Chairman Bro. G. Brown.

The first motion before the meeting was.

"That this depot instructs our L.D.C. to put the following ultimatum before management. That unless this depot retains its percentage of Sunday work then this depot will be in dispute with management in conjunction with the traffic L.D.C.”

 Moved by Bro. G. Brown and seconded by Bro. R. Macdonald.

After full and proper discussion the vote was taken and was as follows. 

For the motion 15, against 0 & abstantenious  1. Motion carried.

The second motion before the meeting was as follows.

"That if we at this depot are to lose our Sunday work then we do not entertain any special openings on Sundays for fueling of engines or stock working. We further will not any longer do any train work on Bank or Public Holidays or undertake to do any loan work. All the above are not to clash with any motion for action from the traffic grades.” Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. Carried unam.

The third notice of motion put before the meeting was.

That we have a one day stoppage on Friday 1st May 1981, this will be subject to any positive intervention by management. 

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. D. Ward. Carried unam. 

The forth notice of motion put before the meeting was as follows.

That a delegation be sent to Waterloo on Tuesday May 19th 1981 to meet the General Manager to protest at the unfair allocation of Sunday work and the complete withdrawal of Sunday duties at Tunbridge Wells West. Further we inform other staff grades at Tunbridge Wells West of our intention and ask them to note that anyone who wishes to accompany this delegation to Waterloo may do so. Management would be officially informed on the previous Friday, 13th May 1981 of this action, those who wish to travel to Waterloo must do so on the 09.33 from Tunbridge Wells Central or other convenient station and to apply for free travel or pay privileged rate.

Bro. F. Diplock declined the chair to the Assistant Chairman to speak to the meeting.

Moved Bro. F. Diplock and seconded D. Rodger. The voting was for the motion 14, against 0 & abstention 2.

The fifth notice of motion before the meeting was.

That if industrial action was to be taken that it follow this pattern

Early turn drivers strike – Monday

Late turn Guards strike – Tuesday

Signalmen strike – Wednesday

Late turn Driver’s strike – Thursday

Early turn Guard’s strike – Friday.

Bro. M. Allen moved the following amendment.

All of the above to be adopted only after full consultation with the relevant L.D.C. and after an open meeting where all can be consulted. So the above motion be held open till such meeting could be convened.

After the above the Chairman closed the meeting as there was no other business before the meeting it closed at 12.40.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 10th  May 1981 11.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were eleven members present, the Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock

Also in attendance at the meeting were the E.C. Member for Southern Region Bro. D. Fullick and the Organising Secretary Southern Area Bro. N. Milligan.

The Chairman called the meeting to order and opened the meeting by asking the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meetings of this branch.

The Secretary read the minutes from the last full branch meeting held on the 29th March 1981. After this the Chairman asked if there were any matter arising from the minutes of the last meeting.

Bro. W. Baldwin asked if the Secretary if he had, had any reply to his letter sent to A.S.L.E.F. Head Office to get clarification over the subject of absence due to sickness for one or two days. The Secretary stated that he had received a notice of receipt of letter only.

The Chairman then asked if the minutes of the last meeting were a true record of that meeting. 

That the minutes of the last meeting were a true record of that meeting. Moved Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin.

The Chairman then asked if the Secretary would read the minutes of the Special Meeting held on the 26th April 1981 at the usual venue.

After the minutes were read to the meeting the Chairman asked for any item arising from the minutes. Bro. W. Baldwin asked the meeting to note the call for strike action from the last meeting to point out to the officials of the Society that it was a call for strike action with which the members of the National Union of Railwaymen had rejected. That they would like to join our call for strike action to show that they felt aggrieved at the loss of Sunday work at this depot and branch.

That the minutes of the last meeting which was a special meeting were a true record. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. R. Macdonald. Carried unam.

The Chairman then moved onto Head Office circular and any matters that may arise. He asked that all the circulars be putted in the notice case at the depot. As there were no matters arising the Chairman then asked the Secretary to move on to items of correspondence.

A letter from Portsmouth Branch which is a request from their branch to ask members of this branch to donate to a fund for the family of Bro. M. Lee who was killed in the course of his duties.

Letter from the Executive Committee and the subject was the industrial action at this depot.

The Chairman asked the meeting if there were any matters arising from the correspondence he asked the secretary to display the letter from Portsmouth Branch and make a collection in the usual way.

Bro. M. Allen gave his opinion to the meeting and called for a vote of thanks to be passed from the meeting to the E.C. member present to thank him for his support in the dispute at this depot.

Bro. W. Ovenden then rose and gave his statement and he felt that we at his branch taking past events into account had not been fully represented when we had, had a grievance.

Bro. W. Baldwin gave his view to the meeting covering the history of the dispute the fact that we were a Mixed Traction type depot and we were covered by that class of depots restrictions.

Bro. M. Allen asked that he make the following proposal.

That this Branch instructs it Secretary to send a letter of thanks to the E.C. for its backing when members of this branch were locked out. Propesed by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney.

There was only one item of L.D.C. business to be put before the meeting that was the new roster which would take effect from the 1st June 1981 along with the new roster.  

Bro. W. Baldwin then asked the Chairman if we could cancel Branch Standing order No. 17 to allow the meeting more time for Bro. D. Fullick to give his report and present Society long membership awards.

The Chairman then asked Bro. N. Milligan Organising Secretary to present the following member with his long service award and to address the meeting.

Bro. Milligan addressed the meeting by giving a vote of thanks to Bro. C. Taylor for his devotion to the Society. After which Bro. Milligan addressed the meeting giving his opinion of the present stand taken by British Rail management and how we can try to fight it stand. After also informing the meeting as to how he was towards support for this depot’s dispute but we were not the only Branch with problems. After closing the speech Bro. Milligan then handed the meeting to Bro. D. Fullick who addressed the meeting giving his report to this branches dispute. He informed the meeting that it was not A.S.L.E.F.  Policy to condone unofficial strike action, but because of the situation at Tunbridge Wells then he felt that we warranted some support. After a very full  speech from Bro. D. Fullick the Chairman asked if anyone wanted to ask the E.C. member any questions.

Questions were put by Bros. W. Ovenden, W. Baldwin & F. Diplock.

The Chairman asked the meeting to consider bringing the meeting to a close.

That we at this meeting indicate a vote of thanks to Bros. N. Milligan and D. Fullick for attending the meeting. Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. Carried.

The Chairman then asked for any other business as there was not anyu forthcoming he closed the meeting at 13.15

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 28th  June 1981 10.30 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock who opened the meeting. The Secretary of this meeting was Bro. J. Carney, the Assistant Secretary, because the Secretary was away on annual leave. There were three other members present which made a total of five members present.

The minutes of the April Special meeting were read to the meeting there was a lively discussion over the motion 

“That if we at this depot are to lose our Sunday work, then we do not entertain any special openings on Sundays for fuelling of engines or stock workings. We further will not  any longer do any train work on Bank Holidays or undertake to do any loan work.”  

which has now been left for advice from our Head Office. This advice will it is hoped will come when we receive a reply to a letter dated the 5th June 1981 under the heading of ‘Sunday Workings’. It was felt then brought to the attention of the meeting that the L.D.C. had conducted a ballot over the motion above, and the result of this ballot were disclosed to the meeting and were as follows.

For the motion 21, against 13, not returned or void 7. Total 41 members.

That in the light of the above ballot this branch was in favour of the motion.

That after which the minutes of the April meeting were taken to be a true record of that meeting. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. D. Godden. Carried Unan.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the meeting the minutes of April & May monthly branch meetings.

That the minutes of the April & May minutes were taken as a true record. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the circulars from Head Office. The Secretary mention of the fact that several voting papers had not been filled in and sent to the scruitineer. The Chairman explained to the meeting the reason for this error. This was due to the fact that we had invited Bro. D. Fullick & Bro. N. Milligan to the last meeting and because of this the voting papers had been overlooked. The Secretary 

The only election paper that was applicable to their meeting was for two Society Representatives to the Parliamentary Panel. This Branch meeting felt that as we at this Branch did not have any information about the candidates and therefore it was felt that we could not give our support.

The Secretary drew the attention of the meeting to ASLEF Diaries and Head Offices apparent belief that this branch had only 40 members and not 41. It was then put from the meeting that the Secretary to write to Head Office to inform them of our membership total.

The Chairman asked the Secretary to send to ASLEF the total number of extra diaries which we require at this Branch.

After the above the Chairman asked the L.D.C. Secretary to give his report from District Council. Bro. Allen informed the meeting at the report had been posted at the depot and therefore he gave only synopsis of the District Council Report.

Bro. Allen then ask the if this Branch could ask the Secretary to write to Head Office to complain about the fact that the case of multiple items on circulars which makes the fillings of circulars very difficult.

Bro. M. Allen then gave the L.D.C. report

Chairs at Oxted and the provision of service at that station. Was it possible to have an Oliver Tom water heater to make refreshments.

Health & Safety Hempstead Crossing, guide lines on 20 minutes signing on allowance, compensatory pay on 2 additional day’s holiday, Form Ones, I.U.P. payment Bro J. Norris, Payment of wages on a Thursday when Rest Day before a Good Friday, letter from Mr. P. Parker, annual leave roster 1982.

Joint L.D.C. meeting 28th May at Norwood, holiday more flexibility between winter/summer, condition of track, cover duties.

Health & Safety, Eridge Forge Farm Crossing, Uckfield, inspection of units & T.W.W. yards.

That ended the L.D.C. report. 

The Chairman then asked the Secretary if he would write to the Head Office to ask if they were going to increase the awards of payment and Resettlement and Redundancy payments. The invention of this request is to bring our Resettlements in line with those awards to the stalwarts and miners.

The Chairman then asked for any other business. The Secretary brought before the meeting the sum and result of the collection held for Bro. M. Lee of Portsmouth Branch who was killed whilst on duty. We at this branch collected £26.00. The Chairman asked the Secretary to send the monies to the fund for the late Bro.

After the above there was no other business the Chairman called the meeting to a close at 12.30.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 16th  August 1981 10.45 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock and there were five members present,  

The minutes of the last meeting were read to the meeting held at the above venue on 28th June 1981. That the minutes of the last meeting were taken as a true record. Moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

The Chairman then moved the meeting onto the Head Office Circulars and as these had been posted at the notice board it was decided that would be taken as read. After this the Chairman asked if there were any matters arising from circulars. Bro. J. Carney asked if he could be put forward for any Society courses for L.D.C. Representative as and when the Secretary received any applications.

After this the Chairman he asked the Secretary if there were any items of correspondence to be put before the meeting and if all outstanding items of the same had been dealt with. The Secretary informed the meeting that a total of £31 had been collected for the two members of this society who had died in service and that he was in the course of dispatching two cheques to the respective branches for £15.50 to represent this branch’s donation. The Secretary had no other outstanding items of correspondence.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary to give his L.D.C. report and District Council report. Bro. M. Allen then addressed the meeting with the following

Health & Safety 

Provision of hot water at Oxted, Bro. J. Carney had compared the number of P.N. Breaks at Oxted to East Grinstead which as better facilities and found that more P.N. Breaks were rostered at Oxted. This was now been pressed through L.D.C. channels.

Forge Farm Crossing, Uckfield, T.W.W. yards & Inspection of units.

Annual leave report on progress etc.

Bro. Allen then went on to give a report of District Council and the current thinking at the above meetings in regard to B.R.B. and E.C. thinking and policy.

After Bro. Allen concluded his L.D.C. Report and District Council report he asked the meeting that when the next elections for A.A.D. representative for this area are held that he would like to be nominated from this branch as area candidate.

That Bro. M. Allen of this branch be nominated from this branch to be delegate for A.A.D. 1982. Carried unam.

That upon receipt of the nomination paper for A.A.D. Delegate a meeting be called to endorse the same. Carried.

The Chairman then brought to the attention of the meeting the fact that Bro. M. Allen of this branch had sent a letter to Society H.Q. which he wanted publishing in the Locomotive Journal and that it had yet not been printed.

The Chairman then asked for any other business at which  there was a very lively debate about the worsening condition of the track over which the members of this branch work and the proposed new service to be introduced by October 1981 to help with the ‘Brighton Line’ re-signalling scheme. The train which the members of this branch work are all to be re-routed into London Bridge and it was pointed out that we would lose route knowledge into Victoria station.

After the above debate the Chairman asked for any other business as there was not any forth coming he closed the meeting at 12.30.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 18th  October 1981

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station 

The Chairman opened the meeting and welcome all for attending and also apologised for the absence of the Secretary who had telephoned him earlier to say that he was unwell. He asked Bro. J. Carney to take over as Secretary and in the absence of the minute book there were held over until the next meeting.

The Chairman then moved onto Head Office circular which he ask the meeting if they could be taken as read.

Moved from the chair and unopposed that all circulars from the last meeting until this be taken as read. Carried. 

The Chairman then brought to attention of the meeting the contents of circular 169/1981 –Cuts in service and asked the meeting for its comments.

Bro. M. Allen who spoke for the whole of the members present said that this Branch was in agreement with paragraph 9 of the above circular but did not want any worsen of our Condition of Services and asked the meeting to instruct the Secretary to write to Head Office with this view in mind. 

That the Secretary write to Head Office and point to the E.C. that we would like to see a joint approach by all the Railway Trade Unions to prevent any further cuts in services and to try to find any further reduction in expenses in other areas of railway operations. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. Carried.

The Chairman then ask the meeting to consider the contents of circular 171/1981 – Cut in Service day of action, he asked the meeting to consider the following. That E.C. Resolution No.2556/330 which is mentioned in the above circular should have been used on the 1st January 1981 when the first cuts were enacted and not well after many more similar cuts in services. It would appear from E.C. action that our Society only seem to protect the larger depot and not the small depots like ourselves.

The we at this depot were disappointed that cuts in service of the train service which we at this depot work were severed and yet when a threat of s loss some inter city services from Waterloo was moved that we should be expected to support strike action. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson.

The Chairman then congratulated Bro. M. Allen on is letter in the Locomotive Journal.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. on behalf of the Branch Membership to persue with whatever bodies available the reinstatement of the Sunday Service. Replying for the L.D.C., Bro. M. Allen informed the meeting that he was in contact with the East Sussex Travellers Association and he was preparing a plan.

The Chairman then moved before the meeting the circular which requested nominations for A.A.D. delegates and the request from Bro. M. Allen of this Branch who desire it was to attend the A.A.D.

That Bro. Aleen of this Branch be nominated be district 40 delegate. Proposed by Bro. R. Macdonald and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson.

As the Assistant Secretary was acting on behalf of the Secretary, Bro. Allen asked that endorse the voting paper and then asked the Secretary to counter sign it make the paper right for the Scruitineer.

The Chairman then moved to a letter from Bro. Plaine of Brighton Branch and district 40 delegate for conference 1981, which contained a list of the motion and minutes of the A.A.D. conference. It was asked that this be made available in the notice board at the depot.

The Chairman then moved the meeting to L.D.C. nominations for 2 years from 1982 and informed that Bro J. Carney and Bro. D. Godden were due to retire from the L.D.C. Bro. Carney had expressed the wish to continue on the L.D.C. but Bro. Godden wanted not to be nominated. This left one vacancy position. The Chairman asked if there were any applications. Bro. G. Brown expressed the wish that he be on the L.D.C.

That Bro. G. Brown be nominated as L.D.C. member for this branch. Proposer Bro R. Macdonald and seconder by Bro. L. Stephenson. As there were no further applicants the motion was votesd on and For the motion 4 & against 0. Motion Carried.

That Bro. J. Carney be nominated as L.D.C. member for this branch. Proposer Bro. M. Allen and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. The motion was voted on and was as follows. For the motion 4 & against 0. Motion carried.

The Chairman then asked Bro. M. Allen L.D.C. Secretary to give his report of L.D.C. items.

Bro. M. Allen addressed the meeting by informing it of the new wallet system for working diagrams that management were to introduce from the 2nd November, this was supposed to be in line with R.S.N.T. Decision 52, but the management interpretation fell well short of the decision.

The new system was that when a driver booked on duty he collected the wallet and when he completed the duty he returned it. The wallet contained only a copy of the driver’s working diagram and no other guide to assist the drivers neither did it relive the driver of his responsibility to check for alterations or speed restrictions. The L.D.C.had attended a meeting with management to discuss the system and the Motive Power Supervisors at Tunbridge Wells had been in attendance at the meeting. At this meeting the L.D.C. had pointed out its short comings.

After a short discussion Bro. Allen then moved onto other L.D.C.items.

Extra 10 minutes booking on allowance until January 1982 on duties going to London Bridge station.

Permanent Alterations – Staff to get an extra 10 minutes booking on time – declined by management.

Payment of wages – payment of wage when Good Friday in the week. Pay to made available on Wednesdays.

New workings – with the introduction of the new service to London Bridge this depot had gained 4 new trips to London.

Sunday service – Brighton and Redhill depots working train services down the East Grinstead line and the very poor standard of duty because of the need for men from the depots to the point of the service.

Travel Groups – the East Sussex Travellers Association were trying to get a bus service from Brighton to Uckfield that would connect with the train service to provide a service to London.

Speed Restrictions – the amount of speed restrictions imposed on the Hurst Green to Uckfield line

New Services – proposal or rumour of East Grinstead to Charing Cross service.

Amended Christmas – 28th as a New Bank Holiday and the provision of Sunday service.

Rest Day working 50% application declined by management.

Oxted line reply, T.W.W. route knowledge meeting to be arranged, condition of track awaiting engineers report. 

Health & Safety

Shed road T.W.W., Hempstead Crossing, D.E.M.U. radiators anti freeze, timing of trains from Eridge to T.W.W., fire blanket, cable clips in tunnels, slipping of leaves.

L.D.C.

Strengthening of 07.23 Uckfield to London Bridge, Oliver Tom at Oxted, 18:00 hours man on Saturday, overtime because of South Eastern traffic & Compensation Leave to be sent to list clerk.

That concluded L.D.C report

The Chairman then asked for any other business as there was non he closed the meeting 13.13.

 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday 22nd  November 1981 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock and there were 8 members present,

The minutes of the previous; the meeting held on 16th August 1981 and the meeting held on 18th October 1981.

That the minutes of the August and October meeting be a true record. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Norris. Carried.

The Chairman then informed the meeting that he would not be standing for Branch Officer from the December meeting. Bro. W. Baldwin also mention that he would not be standing for Branch Officer. This was noted by the Assistant Secretary who mentioned that he had been informed by the Branch Secretary, Bro. C. Exley that he did not wish to stand for Branch Officer after the December meeting.

The circulars were then moved by the Chairman to be taken as read and this was unopposed. That the circular for this meeting be taken as read. Carried.

One circular was brought to the attention of this meeting which was about Society schools in March 1982 and Bro Norris made us known that he would like to be nominated and as no one else made it known it was moved. That Bro. J. Norris be Tunbridge Wells West nominee for the Society school at Dorking in March 1982. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Young.

It was then mention that as the voting papers did not have to be returned until January 1982. If Bro. J. Norris was interested in any of the Branch Office positions it would help him to get on the list of them going to the school. It was then moved. That the nomination paper be held over to the December meeting. Moved Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Young. Carried.

As there were no other matters arising from either circulars or correspondence the Chairman moved on.

Bro. J. Norris asked; as the line between Tunbridge Wells West to Uckfield and up to Oxted were to be closed for four days over the Christmas, would the L.D.C. ask management if the line was to searched before the line was reopened again, also what was going to happen to the units at Tunbridge Wells West will they be started?

The L.D.C. Secretary Bro. M. Allen replied, by saying that this was to be noted and dealt with in the normal channels.

Bro. M. Allen then asked the Chairman if any correspondence of T.U.C. delegates nomination papers been received by this branch. The Chairman replied and said to date he had not seen any but could be at Bro. C. Exley’s house or still in the post. Bro. M. Allen then said that he would be interested on being a delegate on the T.U.C. It was then moved. That Bro. M. Allen be this Branch’s nominee for delegate to the T.U.C. 1982. Moved by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded Bro. L. Stevens 

The Chairman then brought to the attention of all, that the L.D.C. had a letter confirming Bro. A. Young accommodation  move to St. Leonards depot as from Monday 23rd November 1981 and this branch would like to express a thank you for all the hard work put into the depot and as a L.D.C. Rep. and we as a depot wish him well at his new depot.

That this branch gives a vote of thanks to Bro. A. Young for all the good work he has done at the depot and as a L.D.C. Rep. and we wish him well at his new depot.

District Report.

The E.C. resolutions over cuts in service weas brought up and Bro Fullick was asked why this was not implement, he reply was that the E.C. was going to see the Transport Minister over this.

39 hour week which was deferred , with the E.C. trying to get an extra rest day.

The making of one union within the railway which needed 5/6ths of the A.A.D. of each unions to agree, but T.S.S.A. has dropped out.

Management re allocation of work will mean that the A.D.M. within the Central Division will increase from 3 to 7.

District Manager from 14 to 24 with Assistants

L.D.C. Report

Bro. M. Allen gave a brief description of a Sunday service that the East Sussex Travellers Association had asked for.

It was mention about Bro. R. Brown off sick over same complaint as last year.

L.D.C. has asked management a day to bring up to date the two new L.D.C. members ad to explain the work done so far at the depot.

London Bridge to East Grinstead on Sunday worked by Redhilll men.

The Chairman then thanked the L.D.C.  Secretary for and asked for any other business as none came forward the meeting was closes. Meeting closed at 12.30 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 20th  December 1981 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman was Bro. F. Diplock and there were 5 members present,

The minutes of the last meeting held on Sunday 22nd December 1981. After they were read  the meeting was asked that the minutes were a true record of the meeting. That the minutes of the November meeting of this branch. Moved Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. J. Carney.

At this point Bro. Allen aked the meeting to note that this branch had not received the voting paper to vote for nomination to T.U.C. Conference and he asked the Secretary if this branch had received the paper.

The Secretary informed the meeting that he had not received any such circular and he had know knowledge of ever having received any such circular.

Bro. Allen asked through the Chai that the Secretary be instructed to write to Head Office  to inform Head Office of this fact that we at this branch had not received the nomination voting paper. The Chairman ratified this request and expressed his disappointment at this loss but he noted that Bro. Allen was nominated and that we at this branch would give our support to him in his attempt to a hind.

The Chairman then asked that the meeting take the circulars as read as they had been posted on the notice board.

The Chairman then asked the meeting to confirm the election of Branch Officers.

Bro. F. Diplock past years Chairman asked the meeting to note that he intended to stand down as Branch Chairman at the year end and Bro. C. Exley also asked the meeting to note that he was intending to standing down as Branch Secretary but he was prepare to still take an active part in Branch affairs.

The first position for consideration is the post of Chairman.

That Bro. C. Exley be elected Chairman of the Tunbridge Wells Branch for 1982.

Proposed by Bro. W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

A vote was called and it was unanimous in favour of Bro. C. Exley.

That Bro. C. Exley having been voted to position of Chairman be accepted in that post.

The next vote was for the position of Vice Chairman.

Bro. J. Carney informed the meeting that Bro. G. Ellard had expressed a desire to carry out this position.

That Bro. G. Ellard be elected to the post of vice Chairman for 1982. Proposed by Bro. J. Carney and seconded Bro. M. Allen.

A vote was held and it was unanimous in favour of Bro. G. Ellard.

That Bro. G. Ellard was duly adopted as vice chairman.

 The next position was for Branch Secretary.

That Bro. J. Carney be elected to the post of Branch Secretary. Proposed by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin.

A vote was held and it was unanimous in favour of Bro. J. Carney..

That Bro. J. Carney be adopted as Branch Secretary.

The next position was for Assistant Secretary

That Bro. J. Norris be elected to the post of Branch Assistant Secretary. Proposed by Bro. M. allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

A vote was held and it was unanimous in favour of Bro. Norris.

That Bro. J. Norris be adopted as Assistant Secretary.

The next position were for Branch Committee and it decided to adopt all the following due to their positions as one vote.

That Bros. P. Bodiam, G. Ellard, G. Brown & F. Diplock all be voted to the Branch committee. Carried unanimous.

The Final position was for District Council Delegate.

That Bro. M. Allen be this Branch’s delegate to District Council




BRANCH OFFICERS 1982
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. C. EXLEY
ASS. CHAIRMAN. G. ELLARD
SECRETARY. J. CARNEY
ASS. SECRETARY. J. NORRIS 






 The Chairman then called the voting to a close as all the positions had now been filled.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary Bro. M. Allen to give his report, which was as follows.

Provision of water heater at Oxted, Christmas Holiday, Track examination – Area Manager refused the application for the same, preparation of trains after Holiday.

Management was to book a man on duty at 00:01 on Tuesday 27th December provided that he was a rest day man.

Health & Safety

Ear protection,

Tunbridge Wells and East Grinstead yard and sidings, Oxted  mess room – provision of correct number of chairs,

Tunbridge Wells – Locker room and diagram notice room Provision heater in both had not yet been started.

Reduction in service and loss of train service.

Loss of Sunday service was £67,500 revenue was £48,000.

Monday to Friday service was £34,000 which left a surplus of £15,000 after the fares increase was £62,500 and the cost of service was £46,000 with a surplus of £18,000.

Provision of Uckfield to Tonbridge service was £52,000 with a revenue of £6,000 + £7,500.

That concluded L.D.C. report.

The Chairman then asked if there was any other business as none forthcoming the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.40

 

Tunbridge Wells Special Meeting

Sunday 10th  January 1982, 10.10 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


Agenda

“Industrial Action Dispute Called By Head Office”


As Bro. C. Exley could not attend Bro. G. Ellard was Chairman of the day.  Six other members were in attendance with apologies from Bros. D. Goddon and J. Norris for unable to attend this was due to snow and ice. 

The Chairman open the meeting at 10:10 a.m. and welcomed all for attending in this bad weather, on the agenda was one item.



INDUSTRIAL DISPUTE CALLED BY HEAD OFFICE


This meeting was called to inform all members of the branch the reasons for the E.C. calling the two days strikes plus the overtime ban. The Chairman then handed over to Bro. M. Allen for an explanation to the dispute.

Bro. M. Allen then gave a history of the productivity and the discussion held between the B.R.B. and the unions. He outlined  that this had been going on since 1979, and was over the paper plan for the 1980’s submitted by Management and over the paper submitted by the N.U.R. The main points that Bro. M. Allen brought to the members attention were passenger business i.e. poor standards of cleaners and time keeping, operation of manning of trains and the flexible hours which at this time was anything between 7 to 9 hours shifts and if this was brought into action this would mean a lost of work where work would have been tighten up between depots also loss of P.N. Breaks these would be altered, no drivers on Merry-Go-Around trains, rostering over 7 days, failure to attend work would mean heavy financial loss – something like the P. Way have excepted. After some debate between members it was then three motions were drawn up and voted on. At this time two members did leave, they were Bros. P. Pepper and S. Neal.

Motion No.1

That Tunbridge Wells agrees with the E.C. that we oppose the 7 to 9 hour rostering and that this action should be taken further and no overtime be worked – no rest day and no Sundays.

Moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

Voting  For 3 Against 0 & Abstantion 1

Motion No.2

That Tunbridge Wells to inform the E.C. that if any other depots work overtimne including Sundays, that this depot will work overtime.

Moved by Bro. R. MacDonald and seconded by Bro. G. Ellard

Voting For 4 Against 0 Abstantion 0

Motion No. 3

That Tunbridge Wells feel that the E.C. should not call an all out strike because it is doubtful if we would win the issue.

Moved by Bro. M. allen and seconded by Bro. G. Ellard.

Voting For 3 Against 0 Abstantion 0

After this no further motion came forward and as no other discussion started the Vice Chairman thanked all for coming and closed the meeting at 12.08.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 24th  January 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

As the chairman had not arrived by 10.15 it was put to the floor for a member to stand in as Chairman fort this meeting. That Bro. J. Norris stands in as Chairman for this meeting only, due to the absent of the Chairman. Moved by Bro. G. Brow and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. Unam

The Chairman then open the meeting and welcomed all for coming, there were 11 members. The Chairman mention that Bro. D. Fullick with Bro. Milligan were asked to come to this meeting and were due at anytime. Bro. D. Goddon asked if he would welcome our Bros. on their arrival, as this was agreed by all this was done.

The minutes of the special meeting was then read out. It was them moved. That the minutes of the Special Meeting held on the 10th January are a true record. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock, Unam.

The minutes of the December meeting was then produced and were then read, after which Bro. M. Allen ask if the minutes could be read again as the first part did not sound correct. This was done and  Bro. M. Allen pointed out that the Circular with Ore nomination on had not been posted from Head office until January 6th 1982 and this should therefore removed from the minutes. It was then put forward. That the minutes of the December meeting be taken as a true record after the amendment as mentioned. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. Carried.

Then Bros. D. Fullcik and N. Milligan did arrive and they apologised for being late and Bro. Fullick that as they were late they would leave later than they had planned as they had another branch to go to at 11.30.

It was then put forward by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. G. Brown. That Standing Orders be suspended until 11.45. Carried.

Bro. Fullick thanked all for asking him to attend the branch meeting and then went into as the reasons behind the dispute, he mentioned that as the president of the E.C. went to all the meetings with Bro. R. Buckton (General Secretary) and it was his notes that he gave to the fellow E.C. members, some of the points made were, the B.R.B. would not stop at the 7 to 9 hours but will go for their plan of 4 to 12 hours turns. Bro. Fullick asked at one of the meetings with A.C.A.S. if the Chairman could clear up a point, as the Chairman of the meeting was the same as last August Meeting would tell us if the agreement were connected or separated. The Chairman of A.C.A.S.replied separate, but he refused to inform the reporters and TV etc. Bro. Fullick did ask members of the branch to play it cool not to take the newspapers seriously and not to go barmey and hold an all out strike. King’s Cross driver were mention as the Sun newspaper had taken them to court to get an injunction on them. After summing up Bro. Fullick sat down and the Chairman then thanked the E.C. member and Bro. N. Milligan.

Bro. G. Brown moved and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That we the branch wish to thank our E.C. member Bro. D. Fullick and Organising Secretary Bro. N. Milligan for attending.

The Chairman then opened the floor for questions

Bro. D. Goddon asked a question on 8 hour day, Bro. Fullick answered if within the existing agreements.

Bro. J. Morris asked a question on Labour Party Leader Mr. Foot. Bro. Fullick answer a few Labour have come forward but not Mr. Foot.

Bro. C. Exley asked a question on York diagrams. Bro. Fullick answered was the diagram, was for drivers.

Bro. Goddon Asked if actions of the other grades would effect our labour. Bro. Fullick answered the two unions are closer now than ever before.

Bro. M. Allen asked the question on the agreements of last August. Bro. Fullick answered explained that the E.C. knew how men felt on these.

Bro. M. Allen did asked are the E.C. in discussion on productivity. Bro. Fulllick replied “NO.”

Bro. C. Exley asked do the E.C. think  the B.R.B. will suspend all if other grades start action. Bro. D. Fullick answered possibility, if all do, the whole Trade Union will be involved.

As time was then getting on for 11:45 the Chairman ask that no more questions should come forward as to allow our E.C. member to leave for his next appointment.

Bro. M. Allen then two motions forward to be sent to head office.

“That Action of the E.C. be endorsed, that the E.C. continue to put out as much information as possible to all bodies, to who it is felt that should be advised. The E.C. to continue to appose variations of the 8 hour day or worsening of Condition of Service.”

“That In the event this item be dealt with under arbritation, E.C. to take no commitment to agree to any decision that would mean any variation of the Condition of Service.”

Just before Bro. Fullick and Bro. Milligan left, Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. “That the Branch Secretary send to Head Office a letter of congratulations to Bro. D. Fullick on his appointment to President of the E.C. 

Bro Fullick then thanked all for a very warm welcome given by the members of this branch and again apologised for the rush by themselves, but he has another meeting at Tonbridge.

The Chairman then ask the members for adoption of Standing Orders. Moved by Bro. D. Godden seconded by Br. G. Brown

That the Standing Orders of this Branch be reinstated. All in favour.

Bro. C. Exley then mentioned that with the news of  King’s Cross colleagues, he felt that we should help them in some way, he then put forward a motion.

That King’s Cross to receive £5.00 from Branch Funds. Seconded by Bro. M. Allen

Bro. G. Brown then put forward an amendment. That the amount should read £10.00. seconded by Bro. A. Herriot. This was voted on 10 for and 1 against. Carried.

Bro. W. Overton then put forward

That when Branch Secretary receives a letter from King’s Cross the letter to be put up for all drivers to see and read and a general collection to be made. This was seconded by Bro. M. Allen. All were in favour.

The Chairman then asked that the circulars be taken as read with the exception of voting paper. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. D. Godden. That circulars be taken as read. All in favour. 

The Chairman then mention that there were two voting papers before the table. The first was for on of our members Bro. M. Allen to attend the T.U.C. No.2 area. I t was moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That our vote be for our member Bro. M. Allen. All were in favour.

The 2nd voting paper was for Labour Party Conference and as there was a member from the Battersea Branch put forward, it was decided that this member should receive our vote. Moved by Bro. J. Norris and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That Bro. Browning of Battersea receives our vote. All were in favour.

Bro. M. Allen then mention that the Branch Secretary to photo copy letters of Circular No. 13/82 and send to the local paper and to Trade councils also the local Labour Party. Seconded by Bro. A. Herriot. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary for the L.D.C. Report. It was mentioned by the L.D.C. Secretary that the L.D.C. had not gone to any meetings since the last the Branch Meeting event though the L.D.C. had several items in the machinery, except one which was on variable rostering and they only gave a day’s notice and one member of the L.D.C. never had notice until the day of the meeting. This the L.D.C. Secretary did ring the A.D.M. and complained and also mentioned that in the light of the dispute over the same item that was on the agenda, this L.D.C. could not go.

The L.D.C. also said that in line with request made at the L.D.C. nominated at the November meeting, that in the event of a Co-op member being required it would definatley be Bro. R. Luckhurst, who failed to be nominated. It was then moved by Bro. G. Brown.

 That the L.D.C. not to go to any meetings over managements agenda until all matters put forward from this L.D.C. has been dealt with. Seconded by Bro. C. Exley. All in favour. 

As time was running out and as nothing was being put forward to the Chairman, he then mention that on the agenda next month will be annual leave alteration and the mutual aid fund.

Meeting closed at 12:35 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday 21st  February 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There was 7 member present and later in the meeting Bro. V. Rumley did join the meeting. Apologies for not being able to were Bros. J. Norris and G. Brown. The Chairman was Bro. C. Exley and at 10:15 he did open the meeting and asked the Secretary to read the minutes for the January meeting. After the minutes had been read the chairman asked for a mover for the minutes. Bro. M. Allen did then point out that one of the questions put to Bro. D. Fullick was asked by him and not by the person that the Secretary had put. The Secretary said he was sorry for that error and would corrected it. After that it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Herriot. That the minutes of the January meeting be taken as a true record. All were in favour, Carried.

The Chairman then asked for any matters arising from the minutes as there were none he then asked the Secretary to move on to the Circulars that had been put up in the drivers room.

The Secretary then mentioned the amount of Circulars that he had received since the last meeting from No.7 to No.32 so it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley That Circular that have been posted at the depot except voting papers and No.27/1982 be taken as read .all were in favour Carried.

The Chairman then mentioned that he had received a letter from the Tunbridge Wells Trade Council, by mistake as they have not been notified of change of Branch Secretaries.

It went on to say that they do give A.S.L.E.F. full support in the fight for the 3%.   It was then mentioned by Bro. M. Allen that we all knew what the B.R.B. were trying to do, but thanked the Trades Council for their support by asking the members to all instruct the Secretary to write back to the Trade Council and thanked them for their letter and their support and to point out that we see what was happening also to apologise for not sending any member along for their meetings.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That this branch instructs the Secretary to write to the Tunbridge Wells Trade Council and thank them for their support during our industrial action. All in favour. Carried.

The Chairman then mentioned that he had voting papers before him and he asked if any one was interested being a table. Trustee as there were none coming forward, that voting papers was left on the table. 

The second was the 34 Congress of the I.T.F. in Madrid Spain 1983, as it was unlikely that anyone from the Southeast would get the votes, it was suggested that if no one wish to go to leave this one. No one made it known, so this was put aside.

The third was for nomination of E.C. Southern Region.

It was mentioned that Bro. D. Fullick had done avery good job as E.C. member and as he also now is president we should support him again. It was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplcok. That this branch does nominate Bro. D. Fullick of Waterloo Branch for E.C. Southern. All were in favour .Carried

The Chairman then mentioned that a letter had been received from Basingstoke Branch informing the member of their late member Bro. Arthur Guppy who died with Leukemia, it was decided that this should be put up for a collection, but after the two that were at this moment had finished.

Any matters arising from Correspondence as there were none the Chairman then went on. Bro. Harris mentioned the fact that he had heard of a member working his rest day after the E.C. had sent out a letter informing members not to work rest days or voluntary overtime. After some discussion it was decided that as this man had worked his rest day and as this was before the special meeting it was asked that a note be mentioned in the minutes.

That if any member does work during a dispute were head office has made it known that we should not. That member will be inform by letter from the Branch Secretary to the person concerned and Head office be informed. Moved by Bro. Harris and seconded by Bro. Herriot. All in favour. Carried

Bro. Harris asked the Chairman on the Long Siding at Tunbridge Wells West. The Chairman put this over to the L.D.C. Secretary, who mentioned that as a member had been up on a disciplinary hearing over the Long Siding. No trains to enter, also Bro. Harris mentioned that when we were on strike someone moved the units in the yard in the inner sidings and he would like to know who this person was and on who’s authority did that person do it, the L.D.C. Secretary Bro. Allen said he would look into this.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary for the L.D.C. report but Bro. Allen asked the Chairman for standing orders as he believed that the L.D.C. business was not next, but the Secretary apologised for not having his copy of the standing orders and so did the Chairman. It could not be clarified so Bro. Allen asked that the above be noted in the minutes.

Bro. Allen then gave the L.D.C. report. He had received a letter from the A.D.M. Bro. R. Brown medically unfit for main line driving.

Bro. Baldwin then asked if the L.D.C. and seconded by Bro. C. Exley . that the L.D.C. to try and get any position that became vacate i.e. telephone attendant, and they try and get them jobs for failed drivers. All in favour. Carried.

Bro. M. Allen then went on to the holiday sheet and mention the good work Bro. A. young did on it but it has since found it does not work and Bro. J. Norris did then have a go to see if he could sort it out and he has gone up with new sheet which instead of working over 13 weeks rota, now works on a 11 week. It was then suggested by Bro. M. Allen that this be put in the L.D.C. Case at the depot, and to be put on the agenda for the next meeting.

Bro. F. Diplock then asked the L.D.C. Secretary that did he know that the pay clerk was being sent home 4 hours earlier on Thursday leaving men who were working i.e. P. Way etc. having to wait until Friday. Bro. M. Allen replied by saying that the L.D.C. had been made aware of this and they were taking this item up.

Bro. R. Harris then asked if the L.D.C. had drawn to management’s attention the condition of the track and what if any was management going to do in the near future, the L.D.C. Secretary thanked Bro. R. Harris for bringing up this subject as it was a long ago as last August that the L.D.C. had written in for a meeting over this line and this January progress up to I.R.O. to try and get some sort of movement on this so maybe within the next month we might get a reply.

Bro. Allen then finished his L.D.C. report an d then asked if he could put forward a motion over the successful conclusion of the ending of our six week long strike. It was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. R. Harris.

“That this branch congratulate the Executive Committee and the General Secretary on a successful result from the industrial action, in that against all odds, the B.R.B. government, press and the public opposition and the poor support shown by other other rail unions. The A.S.L.E.F. have succeeded in bringing about what was right.3% rise as part of the 1981 pay settlement and the right to have all items of productivity as proposed by B.R. discussed in the proper machinery of negotiation for rail staff.

The method of instituting the industrial action be applauded and the timing of the hardship fund be considered just right.

The officers of the Society, Head Office Staff and other involved in helping our case succeeded be given our sincere thanks, however this branch urges the utmost caution in respect of forthcoming negotiations.

The B.R.B. given the opportunity will no doubt try to introduce items of productivity will no doubt try to introduce items of productivity in numbers and try through all stages of the machinery including the R.S.N.T. to get such items implemented.

Remembering the commitment given in the understanding on pay, by A.S.L.E.F. on  variation to the 8 hour day and the commitment by the Society’s members to retaining the principle of the 8 hour day and no worsening of condition of service.

The Executive Committee should be seen in others eyes to be making progress on some productivity items while retaining the principles of the Society.

For should the Society’s representatives seen inflexible on all productivity items and such arbitration be awarded against A.S.L.E.F., only B.R. proposals having been discussed, then such pressure on us by outside influences will surely cause great concern.

The Society’s representatives must be imaginative with counter proposals on productivity to such a degree as to show how low productivity is in other grades and how all grades should contribute. Show what positive proposals by the Society on some items have been put to counter management proposals and of course why management proposals are unacceptable or unworkable for us.”


All were in favour carried.

The Chairman then went on to the setting up of a hardship fund. It was after some discussion, a motion formulated

That the fund be held by the Branch Secretary an d the Branch Assistant. Moved the motion by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley all were in favour. Carried.

It was then moved by Bro. Harris and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That a ballot of th men at the depot to give every member the chance to see if they would need the help or not. All in favour.

Bro. C. Exley moved and seconded by Bro. M. Allen.

That the Hardship Fund to be split among those who return the slip of paper back with a yes on it until all the £82.00 has gone. The Secretary when allocating monies be subject to the strictest of confidence. All in favour. Carried.

It was then mentioned to which fund does the denotations kindly given by Bro. H. Love, the feeling of the members was that it should go in the Branch Funds.

The Chairman then asked the Branch Secretary to give a report on Mutual Aid Fund. The Secretary then mentioned that in the Mutual Aid Fund had £68.66 in the account but could not find a list of any members that belonged to this fund and on checking with the minute book, the Secretary could not find any information on this fund after June 1978 and had written to Bro. W. Baldwin on this subject.

Bro. W. Baldwin then mentioned that he has received his letter and replied that everyone was a member and if this could be put on the agenda for the March meeting. The Secretary agreed and so did all members present.

The Secretary then informed the members present that there were 4 members at this depot with 20 years service but three were not in attendance at this meeting, only Bro. M. Allen. The Secretary then asked our Honourable Member, Bro. Vic Rumley to congratulate our member on his long service with the Union.

Bro. V. Rumley did mention before handing over the presentation badge that he would thank Bro. M. Allen for all the good and hard work put in, not only as L.D.C. Secretary now but as Branch Secretary of the past, also the loyalty put into the depot, for whatever he does. This was agreed by all.

In return Bro. M. Allen was asked to present Bro. V. Rumley with a 1982 Diary and a Honourable Membership Card and made it known that he was welcome at anytime to come to Branch meetings and join in the debates. This was agreed by all.

The Chairman then asked the members that as time was getting on was there any other business.

The Secretary said that he had one and that was the Branch in December had nominated 2 trustees, the Secretary mentioned the work that the trustee was expected to do which was only once a year, after which Bro. W. Baldwin made it known he would stand as Trustee as from the March Meeting, as no one else offered. Then Bro. W. Baldwin was put forwarded to the members for those vote.

That Bro. W. Baldwin stands as Trustee for his Branch until 1982. All were in favour. Carried.

The Chairman then thanked all for coming and closed the meeting at 12:30

 Tunbridge Wells Meeting

 Sunday March 21st 1982 10.30 p.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station


The March meeting which should have been hold on Sunday 21st at the Welfare Rooms, Tunbridge Wells Central was not held, because a quorum of 4 members could not be made. so that meeting was deemed lost. 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 18th April 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Six members were present at 10.00 after 10 minutes the Chairman had not arrived nor had the Vice Chairman, the Secretary asked for any member to sit in on as Chairman for this meeting. Bro. J. Norris suggested Bro. A. Herriet, he was asked if he wished to sit as Chairman for this meeting and he agreed, it was then moved by Bro. J. Norris and seconded by Bro, M. Allen. That in the absence of the Chairman, Bro. A. Herriett sit as Chairman for this meeting. All were in favour.

The Chairman then opened the meeting and welcomed all for attending, the time was recorded at 10.17. The Chairman then asked the Secretary to readout the minutes of the last meeting. Just as the Secretary was about to start Bro. C. Exley did join the meeting making 7 members present.

The Secretary then mentioned that as there was no meeting in March no minutes were taken, but February minutes were still to be read.

After the February minutes had been read the Chairman asked the members if the minutes of the February meeting is a true record. Moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That the February minutes be taken as a true record. All in favour except one abstain Bro. J. Norris.

On matters arising from the minutes, the question on Trades Council, the Secretary replied by explaining that had gone to the last meeting held on April 13th but due to only 6 delegates, that meeting was abandon, but he did find out that at this time, they were tryng to get the Secretary’s job filled, and if no one was willing to take on the post the Tunbridge Wells Trades Council could cease. The Secretary mentioned thst another meeting was being arranged for May 13th which the Secretary said he could not go, so Bro. M. Allen said he would go and report back to Branch.

Bro. R. Harris, asked had anything been done about the condition of track, this was hand over to Bro. M. Allen to answer. Bro. M. Allen did say that he had written to the I.R.O. and had only last week received a letter informing him that Mr. Sutherland had since died at Christmas, so our letter did not get progress as it would have done if he had still been alive. Bro. M. Allen then went on to say that he had heard that the Temporary I.R.O. was not as good and seemed to favour management.

After Bro. M. Allen had spoken, the Chairman asked for any more questions on matters arising from the minutes. The Chairman then went on to Circulars. The Secretary asked if it would be alright to read only the headings as these had been posted. This was agreed by all.

Circular No. 34 Hardship Fund, had been dealt with by the Branch Secretary and the Assistant and the point of Auditors had been cleared by the Branch on who should be the Auditors them to be. The Trustee, Bro. W. Baldwin and the other was yet to be named. The Secretary did make it known that Bro. J. Brown had assisted the Secretary and acted as Auditor for the December returns and had agreed to help on this. It was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That Bro. J. Brown be the 2nd Auditor for Tunbridge Wells Branch. All in Favour

No.52

As there had not been a March meeting the Branch Secretary approached the two new L.D.C. members to see if they were interested in going, as there was the nominations papers were completed and since a letter from Head Office has received to inform us that they have been successful in going on this course. Bro. C. Exley commented on what the Secretary had done and wish it to be minuted. That the Branch Secretay’s action on submitting to H.O. nomination paper No.52 be endorsed. Seconded by Bro M. Allen. All in favour.

No. 66

The 1982 Labour party Council Result and T.U.C. second ballot. After some discussion and the reading out of letters written between the Secretary and District Council. It was moved by Bro. R. Brown and seconded by Bro. J. Norris. That our vote for the T.U.C. 2nd ballot goes to our member Bro. M. Allen. Unam.

During the reading of Circular, Bro. G. Brown did join the meeting, 8 members present (10:42).

Under matters arising from the Circulars, Bro. M. Allen asked the members if we could instruct the Secretary to complete a voting when it arrives, just in case the date is in between two meetings. The voting paper in question was the 34th Congress I.T.F., he mentioned that he had seen a letter written to the Branch on behalf of the Salisbury member, after which it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the Secretary be instructed to complete voting paper in favour of Bro. D.J. Smith of Salisbury Branch. Unam.

The Chairman after hearing that there were no more matters arising from Circulars he then asked the Secretary to go on to Correspondence.

The Secretary maintain that Rule 37 Clauses 1 and 5 had been received this time were usually  only Clause 1 had previously be claimed, this amounted to £25.42, General Fund, £6.84 Political Fund.

A letter had been sent to Head Office asking for further copies of circulars over the recent pay agreements, these being for Bro. C. Exley for Labour Party but this was turned on cost.

There had been two collections at the depot one for the late Bro. Tommy Shaw who was involved with the Slade's Green incident and Bro. Reg Brown, who had been sick recently, amount of £19.50 to Bro. Tommy Shaw and £12.00 to Bro. R. Brown.

The Secretary mentioned that he had written to H. O. over the Hardship Fund, explaining that Motions 26/82, 27/82 & 28/82 made it difficult to expose names to the Auditors and would they except the Secretary and Assistant Secretary to be Auditors, but since these two letters have been received, the first date 1st April ’82 did just go over what was in the original circular, the 2nd dated 15th April ’82 was just a reminder that Head Officer had not received our statement, it was then discussed and then suggested by Bro. M. Allen. That we get the Auditors to sign the statement showing that £82.00 had gone into the account and that £82.00 had been withdrawn without showing any names.

It was then put forward the letter from Tonbridge Branch Secretary Bro. T. Wise, the Secretary who had been off sick for 4 days, on returning received a letter sent to the depot with regards to them being in dispute with management and asking No Tonbridge duty to be covered by any Tunbridge Wells men, the Secretary dated the letter the 30th March ’82, but was to late as one of our men had been asked to cover a  Tonbridge duty or part of on the Saturday 27th March. It was then put forward. That the Secretary be instructed to write to Tonbrdge branch and inform them why our men did cover part of their duties. Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

The  Chairman then moved to District  Council Report. Bro. M. Allen mentioned during the recent strike that many outside unions had given help and money towards our cause, one of over £5,000 was from the E.E.P.T.U. newspaper union and another from the Kent miners of £1,000. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that they had a very good discussion from a solicitor who gave a speech on safety when that person was asked about the Rule book, she was assured that the Railway could try and get around the problems this way. Bro. M. Allen said that he could not give all what was said and done but would typing out a fuller assessment which would be put in the show case at the depot.

On matters arising from District Council, Bro. G. Brown wish to move a vote of thanks to Bro. M. Allen on the report and the work gone into it, this was seconded by Bro. C. Exley. Unam.

After what was a surprise, Bro. M. Allen who thanked all the members for their appreciation.

The Chairman then asked for and motion and other  business.

Bro. J. Norris was first, who informed the Branch of his dismay about the Railnews, saying that we are all subsiding a management proganda paper and wished no copies be sent to Tunbridge Wells as a form of protest. It was then moved by Bro. J. Norris and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That this branch have no copies of the Railnews sent to Tunbridge Wells West. Unam.

Further to that motion, Bro. F. Diplock moved. That this motion be subject to a ballot of the men and to instruct the Secretary to write to the Loco Journal. Unam.

Bro. M. Allen then changed the subject by bringing to the members attention that the latest Sectional “D” Notice did have a revised Displinary Code of practices and after informing the members it was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Norris. That the Secretary write to Head Office and bring to their attention the amendment to Rule A of the rule book as shown in the April to June “D Notice.” Unam

Bro. F. Diplock then asked the Secretary if he would in the near future put up a collection for Bro. B. Asprey who has been sick for some time and also for Bro. K. Steer who retires after this month. The Secretary said that would be done.

The Secretary then mentioned that at the present time the Branch holds all its monies in the NatWest cheque account and as to bits low is just around the corner each branch must separate the monies that Head Office sends and the monies donated by members also the Mutual Aid Fund is now in a state of non assistance as the Secretary has no file on who is in this, Bro. V. Rumley was to give a reply but unfortunately he is not here.

The Secretary then asked the members what sort of account would they want him to open to describe to which ended  by them all agreeing to having another Building Society account and it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary draws up new rules and regulation for the next Branch to agree, this to cover the Mutual Aid Fund and any other monies other than General Fund and the tittle of the account will be the Tunbridge Wells Locomotive Grade Friendship Fund. Unam

As the time was getting on the Chairman then asked for the L.D.C. report

Headings only

Oliver Tom – water hester being dealt with

Sunday work, condition of track, speeds – Birchden/Groombridge, Uckfield to London Bridge extended to Charing Cross. These all sent to Sectional Council.

Uncertified Sickness

This was mentioned in detail because the L.D.C. have informed members that take is no requirement to put a note in, but when Bro. M. Allen wrote to the A.D.M. informing him that he had no right to with hold his days pay when he was sick, the reply was one of surprise and it would seem that all members here to do in the future was to write to the A.D.M. and say “I have been sick” as confirmation that you were sick on that day.

On Sunday Service, the L.D.C. have been told there is to be a meeting between T.W.W. L.D.C. and Head Office A.S.L.F. over the Sunday Service.

C.M.T. alteration No.74 being sent to Sectional Council.

Bro, G. Brown’s removal of letter from L.D.C. Case. Bro. M. Allen informed Branch that he would be taking this up with the A.D.M. again. Bro. G. Brown moved. That Secretary writes to Head Office over the A.D.M removal of L.D.C. letters from the L.D.C. show case without informing the L.D.C., what is there views on this. Seconded by Bro. M. Allen. Unam.

Route Knowledge Victoria to Croydon, pre scrutiny – most turns altered, A.W.S. time allowances at terminals.

Route Cards, Bro. G. Brown suggested that we should be more forceful and either get refresher or strike all routes of card i.e. tear them up.

The Secretary then informed the meeting that the time was now 12.30 and the meeting must be brought to a close unless standing orders No.17 was brought in.

Standing Order No.17 state:- suspension of Standing Orders, Standing Order may be suspended if a motion to suspend is by a majority.

It was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That Standing Order No.10 be suspended to allow the meeting to finish. Carried.

Bro. M. Allen then carried on with L.D.C. business, he mentioned that in the new workings we seemed to have 3 duties were men have the P.N. booked at New Cross Gate. He suggested that if the men do not want the break there, they should inform Control and go to London Bridge.

He also said that if it was the wishes of the Branch he would also list route learning East Croydon to Victoria. It was then moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the L.D.C. list the item for discussions the item of route learning over East Croydon to Victoria. Unam.

The last thing Bro. M. Allen mention was that under this new management plan, it was to increase the list clerks to 11 from 3 and to increase management to  the approx. cost of £250,000 when it was first brought out £100,000 was to be for the whole thing to be brought in.

The meeting was then closed at 12.45  

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 23rd May 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were four members in attendance, in the Chair was Bro. C. Exley.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.31 and welcomed those members who attended in what was a wet morning. He then asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting, which was the April meeting.

After the Secretary had read the April meeting it was pointed out by the Secretary that he had not written correctly – some words , which he asked if these minutes could be altered, after which the Chairman aske if these minutes could be taken as a trur record of the April meeting. It was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. C.Ellard. That the minutes of the April meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

On matters arising from minutes Bro. F. Diplock asked if the two collections at the depot had come to a conclusion, the Secretary in reply said that they had for Bro. R. Aspey, the sum of £29.50 had been collected and for the late member Bro, K. Chadwick from Stoke-on-Trent the sum of £13.00.

On the question on the ballot f the Railnews, the Secretary did mention that as the votes were 17 in favour of not receiving the Railnews but there were 10 against leaving 14 abstaining. There was after some talking no motion made as this was being talked under matters arising from minutes.

Bro. F. Diplock then asked about the voting paper for the 34th I.T.F. Congress in Spain. The Secretary mentioned that as per the minutes of 18th April 1988, this had been done prior to this meeting and would be posted to Head Office as soon as possible.

The Chairman then moved on to Circulars.

Labour Party Summer Schools.

Bro. C. Exley made it known that he has an interest in applying to go to the No. 5 School headed Labour Party Summer Schools. Moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That Bro. C. Exley’s name to go forward for selection to the Labour Party Organisation and Training Course to be held at Ruskin Hall, Oxford 7th – 13th August 1982. All were in favour.

It was mentioned that as per Circular 99, copies of this booklet were for sale at 30p each if anyone wishing to obtain a copy, please would they let me know. Bro. F. Diplock and Bro. C. Exley did ask for copies and the Secretary took note and mentioned that he would also ask at the depot by displaying a letter explaining same.

The Chairman then asked that as Bro. M. Allen was not here as he was attending this year’s A.A.D. that the District Council report be held over to next meeting. This was agreed.

On asking for any motion the Chairman brought to the members attention of the fact that the Priviledge Rate for the Underground ticked had gone up well over 100% and reminded members that before the C.L.C. lower rate on the Underground the rate was 12p priviledge after the G.L.C. cut the rate went down to 10p. now after the Law Lords overturned the G.L.C. the rate was now 20p and the Chairman then finding the other members of the branch had agreed with him then put forward the following motion and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary write to Head Office and inform them that we at Tunbridge Wells could not understand why the priviledge rate had gone up to 20p instead of going back to 12p, so would they inform us of their views.

The Secretary then brought to the members attention that he had written to Head Office over two L.D.C. members attending L.D.C. Courses at Tavistock Square and as these were now being held over to September Head Office would have to be informed that as Bro. J. Norris was leaving Tunbridge Wells branch on a promotion move that the Branch’s Co-opted member Bro. R. Luckhurst would be replacing Bro. J. Norris. It was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. G. Ellard. That the Secretary writes to Head Office and inform them as Bro. J. Norris will no longer be a L.D.C. member after June 14th. Bro. R. Luckhurst is requested by this branch to go to L.D.C. Course starting in September at Tavistock Square. All were in favour.

On the table was a letter from Toton Branch Secretary over one of their late members, after the letter had been read, Bro. F. Diplock mentioned that as this man did not die on duty and as he had been sick for over 3 years, he felt that a collection would not be right. Bro. C. Exley then suggested that we seng them £5 from the Pontoon money as this was the intention or one of them in the setting up the Pontoon. It was then moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by B ro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary send £5 to the Toton Branch for their late member. All in favour.

The Secretary then asked the member that a problem has arisen since changing accounts from Nat Westminster Tunbridge Wells to Nat Westminster Tonbridge, that while it had been normal practice in the past to have only the Branch Secretary’s signature, there had in fact been no mandate drawn up to say that this was excepted by the Branch, after using the new branch at Tonbridge several cheques were returned asking for another signature. On seeing the bank manager it was found that the mandate to date was to have two signatures not one has been the practice at Tunbridge Wells. Also in their records, Bro. A. Brooker was still Chairman, the Secretary therefore aslked that the records at the Branch’s accounts be corrected and that only one signature that of the Branch Secretary’s be Accepted. It was then moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by B ro. G. Ellard. That the Secretary to get the necessary papers to correct the Branch’s papers at the Nat Westminster, to who are the officers and that only the Branch Secretary’s signature is required on all chques on behalf of the Tunbridge Wells Branch. All were in favour.

The Chairman then went on to L.D.C. business and as the Secretary and the L.D.C. Chairman was absent. Bro. J. Carney did mention that the L.D.C. had attended two L.D.C. meetings, one was on new rosters for May to October workings, the others was over the new Holiday Roster sheet compiled by Bro. J. Norris. The rest of the L.D.C. report was held over until Bro. M. Allen returns from A.A.D.

Bro. C. Exley asked if the Secretary would write to Head Office over his complaint of being refused by management of a weeks holiday after management had said they would consider an application from him. It was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. G. Ellard. That the Secretary be instructed to write to Head office and ask if they would take up Bro. C. Exley’s complaint over his one week holidays July 19 – 24 without pay when it was management suggestion. All in favour.

Bro. J. Carney then asked for the Branch’s support after the reports he has put into the A.D.M. he supported his request by showing letters he written and had received, also Bro. J. Carney quotes extract from the rule book whichj clearly definds that no driver should propel onto or near stops which as been done and still is by a lot of drivers. Bro. F. Diplock asked Bro. J. Carney why had this suddenly taken interest when this practice had been going on for some years. Bro.J. Carney explained that when went on a Form 1 Charge to the D. M. he was insisted thatr we should drive down to buffer stops, even though Bro. J. Carney did explain that this would cause delay and excessive overtime due to drivers not completing their duties as booked. But he was adiment that we should at all times drive on to buffer stops and since meeting the Health and Safety Rep Bro. M. Allen has had a meeting with management over the long sidings and the outcome was that no trains to be stabled down the long sidings until a walkway and lighting has been made. After this Bro. J. Carney moved and it was seconded by Bro. G. Ellard. That the branch do backs Bro. J. Carney with respect to his reports over the long sidings. All in favour.

After this as no further motion come forward the Chairman then closed the meeting at 12.20 p.m

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 25th July 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

8 members were in attendance, as the Chairman was on holidays it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. 

That Bro. R. Harris be Chairman for this meeting only. All in favour.

The Chairman then thanked all and welcomed the members for attending and then asked for any apologies. Bro. F. Diplock mentioned that Bro. W. Baldwin did send his apology and the Secretary mentioned that Bro. C. Exley, the normal Chairman sent his apology after which the Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the minutes.

The Secretary mentioned that the June meeting had to be cancelled due to only himself and the Chairman had turned up. The minutes of the May meeting was then read, after which Bro. J. F. Diplock moved and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the minutes of the May meeting be taken as a true account of that meeting. All in favour.

The secretary then mentioned that arising from the minutes he had been instructed not to proceed with Bro. C. Exley letter to Head Office as set down in the minutes, as he had arranged with some success from another source.

Bro. F. Diplock asked about the long sidings had this come to a conclusion. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that as the Divisional Manager had instructed us to drive down the long sidings after the Health and Safety meeting with the A.D.M. they had both agreed that there was no walk way beside the long siding and members would have to walk in the 4 foot or on the main line it has been brought to Bro. J. Carney attention that the A.D.M. Redhill with the Statin Manager Tunbridge Wells West were at this time compiling a notice to be entered into the Sectional Appendix. That a 3 car can be propelled down the long sidings but not a 6 car. This would to be shunted out side.

The secretary then said that the necessary papers to correct the Branch’s banking accounts had also been completed and was working OK.

The minute which asked the Secretary to write to Head Office to their views on the Priv. Rate going up to 20p had been written but the Secretary had not to date received a reply but would be sending another letter as a reminder.

The Chairman went on to Circulars received since last meeting. These had been mentioned at Special Meetings and 139 was mentioned that L.D.C. should not go to any meetings until Flexible Rostering had been dealt with at National level.

The Chairman then moved on to letters/correspondence.

The Secretary went through letters sent and received in date order since May up to date as shown below one letter that the Secretary had received only a few days earlier was from Waterloo Branch which was about the A.A.D. which asked member to vote and support their resolution on getting A.S.L.E.F. membership from the T.U.C. withdrawn. Bro. M. Allen asked that no motion or mandate be taken because as he had experienced from the last A.A.D. when discussion gets under ways that do get said that could change the argument and if he had a mandate from this branch he would not be able to put across the best intention for the society.

Bro R. Plummer withdrawing membership, Bro. G. Brown explaining why he went to work and a letter from Bro. R. Harris on strike action and also asked that this go forward to the Loco journal. 

After the letter had been read it was proposed by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. 

That the contents of Bro. R. Harris letter be sent to Head Office for insertion in the Loco Journal as branch members report. 

All in favour.

Then the Chairman asked for any matter arising as their were none he moved on to district Council report. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that due to the strike the last District Council had been cancelled. The Chairman then asked for any matters arising from the District Council Report.

Then he moved on to any motion and amendments the Chairman said he had one and asked if he could leave the Chair while he spoke, he then asked that we complain about the N.U.R. Secretary with the way he acted during the strike and while talks were going on. He then proposed and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. 

That the Secretary write to the E.C. complaining about the attitude of the General Secretary of the N.U.R. and the open views he took through television and the media alike, totally neglecting his responsibilities as a fellow trade unionist. This we ask the E.C. to forward to the T.U.C. for their action. 

All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to excepting the rules of the new deposit account with the rules set out and been posted at the depot since April also copies sent to Bros. M. Allen and W. Baldwin. First the Chairman asked for any amendments to these rules, which were

Rule 1

That the fund be known as The Tunbridge Wells West Branch Fund

Rule 4 The word books be added to line 3.

Then it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. R. Harris. That the Mutual Aid Fund rules all be deleted and all monies in the said account be transferred into a new account known as the Tunbridge Wells West Branch Fund and the rule with amendment be excepted. All in favour.

Then it was further put forward by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That all donations except these from Head office as per new rules No.2 now be paid into this account. All in favour.

Then Bro. M. Allen asked that it be recorded a vote of thanks  to Bro. A. Herriott for the time and for acting as runner during the 2 week strike this was seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

Then Bro. M. allen asked for a recorded vote of thanks for the hard work that the Branch Secretary Bro. J. Carney had put in during the two weeks strike. This was seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. All agreed.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. Report.

Bro. M. Allen mentioned that Bro. R. Aspey on shunting duties. This was to be a ballot on A Shift only but due to strike and we would no want to stop our members retaining his knowledge of the traction etc. would the branch move that the L.D.C. can proceed with this without a ballot. It was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the L.D.C. do proceed with correspondence with management over the appointment of Bro. R. Aspey on shunt duties. All in favour.

Bro. G. Brown’s letter had been sent to him asking him to resign as L.D.C. Chairman and the L.D.C. because he worked during the strikes and a reply from him with his resignation in it. So now there was a vacancy on the L.D.C. Bro. A. Herriott made it known that he would be interested in the L.D.C. it was then proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That this Branch excepts Bro. G. Brown resignation and puts Bro. A. Herriott forward on to the L.D.C. of Tunbridge Wells West. All in favour.

Also it was asked if Bro. A. Herriott be put forward to Head Office to go on the next school in September in place of Bro. G. Brown. It was then moved by Bro. M. allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the Secretary writes to Head Office and ask that Bro. A. Herriott be in place of Bro. G. Brown in the next school for L.D.C. at Tavistock Square. All agreed.

The Chairman then brought to the members attention that the position of Branch Secretary Assistant was vacant and the Secretary mentioned what would be asked of the Assistant, and the Chairman who was only acting for this meeting only made it known that he was in favour. As there was no other nomination it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro.R. Harris Branch Secretary Assistant as from July 25, 1982. All in favour.

The Chairman then was aked by Bro. M. Allen that he had left out of his L.D.C. report that a meeting had been arranged between the I.R.O. and this L.D.C. over the Machinery and negoaition and failure by management, but this fell on the first day of the strike s this had to be cancelled.

Bro. M. Allen then asked if members wish to hear what he was going to say at the re-called A.A.D. after which everyone agreed with the contents and congratulated him on his work.

As there were no more business the chairman then closed the meeting at 12.30 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

   Sunday 22nd August 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were 4 members in attendance at the start of the meeting but increased to 8 by 10.30 a.m.

They were Bros A. Herriott, J. Carney, M.Allen, W. Baldwin, R. Harper, F. Diplock L.Stephenson & K. Knowells

The Secretary asked for someone to stand as Chairman for this meetig in the absent of the Chairman. It was  proposed by Bro. M. Allen and second by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. A. Herriott be the Chairman for this meeting. All in favour.

The Chairman then opened the meeting at 10.19 and welcomed all for attending and he then ask for any apologies. The Secretary said he had two Bros. P. Pepper & C. Exley, after which the minutes of the July meeting.

After which Bro. M. Allen proposed and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the minutes of the July meeting be taken as a true record.

On matters arising from minutes the Secretary briefly mentioned the new account that the July meeting asked the Secretary to look into and what interest they gave, but mentioned that as this was on the agenda he would explain more then, also a brief mention on the L.D.C. vacancy were Bro. G. Brown resigned and Bro. A. Herriott did make it know that he was interested and has since taken over on the L.D.C.

The Chairman then asked that the circulars be read. The Secretary mentioned that as requested at the July meeting, all circulars had been reposted from April to this meeting and as they had already been read. Circular regarding voting paper of the I.T.F. second ballot and as our member who we had voted for in the first ballot was not on the sheet, the Secretary mentioned that he had received a letter from Stratford branch asking for our votes, and the members then mentioned that if that was so our vote go in his favour, it was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That this Branch does vote in favour of Bro. A.W. Ramsay from Stratford for the I.T.F. in Spain 1983. All in favour.

Chairman then went on to letters sent out and received by the Secretary since last meeting. Bro. M. Allen then asked that the letter from Bro. R. Harris be put in the same file as the dispute file and the latter on Bro. A. Herriott over his sickness was explained in more detail. After which the Chairman then asked if there was any District Council report. Bro. M. Allen mentioned there was none at this time being.

The Chairman then went on to the Building Society. The Secretary then mentioned that he had been to four building societies in Tonbridge who had branches at Tunbridge Wells and ahd found that Nationwide building society favourable as these paid ½ per cent more than the others 8 ½  instead of 8 percent. It was then proposed by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That  as per the July meeting that the new account be opened in the building society known as the Nationwide building society, and the Secretary to close the account held with the Bristol and West. All in favour.  

The Secretary then brought to the meetings attention that as per rules, two Auditors  where to check the books each year, but as Bro. J. Brown had moved to Orpington there was now a vacancy and would any member attending this meeting be prepared to take this in. Bro. M. Allen said he would be prepared to carry out the Auditors duties. It was then proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconed by Bro. K. Knowells. That Bro. M. Allen to take on the vacancy of branch Auditor that was vacated by Bro. J. Brown. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked if there was any L.D.C. report. Bro. M. Allen gave a short report on the A.A.D. Recall, but mentioned that they the delegate  had to bacl the E.C. so not to that they were wrong but all agreed that they were under duress and have informed the B.R.B. that they cannot be blamed or will they help of the emn do not help make Flexible Roster work.

On Flexible Rostering the L.D.C. have written into the A.D.M. to have before any rosters meeting take place. Also we will be asking for 312 hours over 8 weeks cycle as per circular 156/1982. This meeting will be putting forward new minutes over roster safeguarding men’s working conditions.

On Bro. R. Aspey, the L.D.C. have now completed the minute and now Bro. Aspey is now working 349 & 350 duties along with Bro. R. Harper.

The L.D.C. had notice of the Christmas Holidays period and we at Tunbridge Wells have got 4 days off over Christmas but the New Year’s Day is a normal Saturday service and Monday 3rd January, we are off.

On the Long Sidings, which the Health & Safety Officers with the whole L.D.C. have explained that they consider the Long Sidings as non-existing. The D. M. know that drivers cannot drive down these sidings, but it would seem that the station manager does not seem to want to instruct his signalmen. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that under Health & Safety there is an emergency meeting outstanding.

Bro. M. Allen also mentioned as a reminder that as he was lucky to be elected he will be going on the T.U.C. course from the 4th September for one week.

The Chairman then moved on to any other L.D.C business, which the Branch Secretary had put on the agenda the notice of intent that was handed out to the L.D.C. on 13th August 1982 over the closure of line between Grove Junction and Burchden Junction.

The L.D.C. Secretary said we need to know more information before we can oppose it and questions from the floor asked the L.D.C. Secretary if we can ask for a meeting between ourselves with Management, with Sectional Council in attendance. Bro. M. Allen answered, yes and wordings from an agreement No.177.

Bro. F. Diplock said this Branch must stand to keep this line open, maybe when the L.D.C. go to meetings, they may be able to find out if the line was to close to see if a single line would be left between Tunbridge Wells West and Eridge to supply the service fully serviced. 

Bro. M. Allen mentioned that answers will be needed and to paragraph No. 6 and that notice of intent with what do they mean depot reduced and meaning relocating, find out they going to disperse the men, after which it was moved by  Bro W. Baldwin and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

That the Secretary does write to Head Office and inform them that. This the Tunbridge Wells Branch are extremely concerned and urgently need information over the proposed closure of this line between Grove Junction and Burchden Junction i.e. what is to happen to this depot, the Hasting to Tonbridge were will the engine be service etc would you please give this your earliest attention as we would like to have this information by our next branch meeting on 19th September 1982. All in favour.

It was also asked if the Secretary could ask why we have been given a classreation A on the statement of intent whn we should have been under C, but the L.D.C. Secretary Bro. M. Allen said this was being takein up by the L.D.C.

Bro. M. Allen then informed the members that the Secretay has looked at the passed copies of the Locomotive Journals and found in May 1981 copy, a copy of the P.T.R. arrangements and asked that the Branch instructs the Secretary that he gets copies, photocopies of this and have ready for member to read. This to be paid from branch funds. This was seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary checks into pass publications of the Locomotive Journal for the P.T.R. Arrangements and the R.T.R. arrangements and get these photocopies and have these put up at the depot for the men’s information, the cost of these to come from branch funds. All in favour 

The Branch Secretary then mentioned that he will be starting the pontoon up again as from the 11th September with new prize money of which rules will be put on to next agenda as time is running out for this meeting to discuss under any other business. This was agreed, also it was mentioned that the word ASLEF would be taken out of the rules of pontoon.

The meeting was then brought to a close as time was running out, the Chairman then thanked all eight members for turning up and making the meeting very interesting and then he closed the meeting at 12.30 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 18th September 1982, 10.27 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Four members in attendance they were

Bros. M. Allen, C. Exley, J. Carney & L. Stevenson

The Chairman welcome all and opened the meeting at 10.27. The Secretary then mentioned that he had seen Bro. R. Harris and as he was on his way home from London and he sent his apologies.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting. The Secretary firstly mentioned that due to an oversight on his side, he had not written to Head Office asking for information and inform them that we are extremely concerned over the closure of passenger service and the Secretary said this would be done first thing.

The minutes of the August meeting was then read, after which it was proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That the minutes of the August meeting of the Tunbridge Wells Branch be taken as a true record. All in favour.

On matter arising from the minutes the question was asked on what was happening to those members who did attend work during the two week all out strike. The Secretary informed the members that he had written to Head Office on 22nd July, 1982, over this and had written a chasing letter on 13th August 1982 and had to date received an acknowledgement dated 27th July 1982 and a letter dated 29th July 1982 informing us that the E.C. has yet to deal with this item.

It was then proposed by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That the Secretary be instructed to write again to Head Office over those member who did work through the strike. All in favour.

After which the Chairman then moved to circulars. The Secretary then mentioned that all circulars have been posted except 173 N.H.S. Industrial Dispute, 22nd September 1982, as that only received on 27th September, the day before this meeting but as it was for the 22nd September it should be dealt with. Bro. M. Allen then asked if the Secretary new what our Trade Council was doing and in reply the Secretary informed members that as he could not attend the last Trade Council meeting he had very little on what they were doing.

It was then proposed by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the Secretary asks the Trade Council what they are doing over this dispute and to see if any donation are being made. All in favour.

The Secretary then mentioned that he was having to put a dead line on the members who wish to reclaim their two weeks contributions that was taken from their wages after the strike and suggested 10 days from this meeting being October 2nd 1882 and each person who applies will receive an acknowledgement from the Secretary.

The Chairman then moved on to District Council report Bro. M. Allen who is our delegate, mentioned that it was a lengthy report and as it was over Flexible Rostering he pointed out that it is in the show case at work, some of the items were mentioned they were.

B.R. have decided that all spare and H.R.S. will work overtime to cover all work at depot that is if you are on a 7. 30 Hrs spare turn they could roster you a 8.30 turn forcing members to work one hour even if they did not wish to. H.R.S. to be the same.

The District Council have been instructed that strike badges will have to be issued, but members will be asked to pay for these, something like the men at Hastings have done.

On matters arising question on Flexible Rostering, were answered by Bro. M. Allen.

The Chairman then moved on to the next item of the pontoon to ceases  under Branch control. The Secretary then mentioned that as we have been given a date of closure of passenger service we could give the line and service a good send off by having a party of all grades and members involved with the Grove Junction to Birchden Junction, but felt that we could not do it under the A.S.L.E.F.  Branch name, and would suggested that a new Pontoon be started but under the control of a different body to represent all grades in the closure area.

Bro. M. Allen asked if the Branch Pontoon had been a success. The Secretary replied yes, and hoped that the present membership of about 54 would increase to around 90 under the new idea of the profits going for a party. Bro. M. Allen then asked have any rules been made up for this new idea. The Secretary replied he had made up a set of rules but yet to have them agreed by all.

Bro. M. Allen then put it to the floor and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That the Branch carries on with the Pontoon for the time being but asked that both the rules for the new Pontoon be put up with the rules of the Branch’s rules for all to choose. Carried.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to give a report on the conclusions of Hardship Fund.

The Secretary informed members that he had received a letter from Head Office over the Hardship Fund but as he had seen all the members entitled to their share of the Fund, could the Branch allow him another two weeks to try and see these members and then get the Audits into check them, then send them back to Head Office.

It was then put forward by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That the Secretary writes to Head Office and explain the reason for delay and this Branch ask the Secretary to try and see these members before the next meeting. All in favour.

Then the Chairman moved onto L.D.C. Report.

Bro. M. Allen L.D.C. Secretary went quickly through the items being dealt with by the L.D.C. they were

Hempstead Crossing, Shed Road, Bro. Ross-Goff standing in for Bro. N. Millingan.

On Hemstead Crossing, one of the suggestions put by the L.D.C. to management was that a permanent speed of 30 m.p.h. limit as soon as possible be put on this crossing because of the farmers continual abuse of using this crossing.

The shed road had been measured but as it was within limits and properly sign posted was being looked into.

Flexible Rosters

Bro. M. Allen gave a detailed report on what management wanted and their interpretation of the McCarthy Report. The L.D.C. have submitted on the 24th August what changes they want in there minute L574 to work the McCarthy Report and he read out this letter and was awaiting a meeting. But said we will not be agreeing to any rostering that was not for the best of its members but could see and is expecting a fail to agree on his letter dated 24th August and so put back the introduction of Flexible Rostering.

On the closure of passenger service and possible line

The L.D.C. have written 2 letters

One to the A.D.M. asking for a meeting as they felt that more information should be given to the L.D.C. of which a reply had been received which went on to say they could not have a meeting until the notice of closure had been enforced, which mean the L.D.C. will have to wait until the line is closed which is no good so will be writing again.

The other letter was to Sectional Council over what they could do to help us and are hoping to have a meeting arranges over this.

On the long siding, Bro. A. Herriett has not heard nothing yet over his collision with the buffer stops, so fingers crossed.

N.H.S. under the T.U.C. Report and this will be mentioned at the next meeting.

Bro. M. Allen mentioned that we have only just received the statement of intent which is what management and Sectional Council have decided on the fate of each depot but have chosen not to go this path as it takes about 18 months to close a depot or lines, take the Sanderstead to Elmer End as an example, but we believe they do not want to wait so our lines is doomed to die.

Under Health & Safety it was mentioned that Oxted toilet were out of use on the up platform and staff and the public were being asked to use the down platforms toilets. Could Bro. M. Allen look into this, he said he would.

The Chairman then mentioned the Secretary had under any other business written a questionnaire which he want the Branch’s reaction. The Secretary read the questionnaire in detail and after a few alterations it was then noted that these forms would be in member’s wage envelopes this coming week and asks members if they would return them as soon as possible no latter than 2nd October, 1982. The Secretary then asked if the members who worked should get this help that will result from this questionnaire. Bro M. Allen proposed and seconded by Bro. C. Exley.

That the Secretary carry out a questionnaire to help Sectional Council, Head Office, the L.D.C. and the Branch with the exception of those who worked through the strike, they are G. Brown, R. Plummer, R. Aspey and R. Woodbridge. Bro. R. Bridger will get a form as he returned on strike after only two days because of his worries over pension. All in favour 

Bro. M. Allen then mentioned that the L.D.C. have got a meeting with I.R.O. on Wednesday 6th October 1982.

The Secretary also had on the table an application form filled in by our new branch member Bro. R. Simpson who is at present N.U.R. member but has seen that we as a branch can help him, has decided to join us, but due to no motion was made the Chairman the n closed the meeting at 12.30  

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday  October 1982, 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were 4 members in attendance by 10.00, they were Bros. J. carney, M. Allen, F. Diplock & A. Herriott.

In the absence of the Chairman the Secretary asked the floor if any member wish to stand as Chairman for this meeting, it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bo. F. Diplock. That Bro. A. Herriott be asked to sit as Chairman for this meeting of which he accepted. When put to the floor all were in favour.

The Chairman then opened the meeting at 10.22, apologies were first taken, these were from Bros. W. Baldwin & C. Exley.

The Chairman then asked for the minutes of the last meeting, Brp. M. Allen moved and was seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the minute of the September meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour

On matters arising from the minutes.

Bro. F. Diplock asked about the questionair that had been sent to every one. Bro. M. Allen assured Bro. F. Diplock that we did ask these questions to get the feelings of them embers but whatever we will be objecting to the closure of the passenger service on the Grove Junction to Birchden Junction, but we must get answers to questions like on redundancies, this we will be doing in parallel with the fight to save our line.

Bro. M. Allen then mentioned Bro. B. Harris letter in this months journal, he mentions that the Assistant General Secretary, Don Pullen, had, when he visited Head Office, called Bro. M. Allen to him and mentioned that he had read Bro. B. Harris’s letter and complimented Bro. Harris for a very good letter which only goes to show that all letters are read by those at Head Office and they do take notice.

Strike badges, these are being made by Bro. D. Bush of Slade’s Green, and this branch has ordered 50 and these will be on sale at 80p each, then Bro. M. Allen asked if the branch would allow the Secretary to pay for these badges from branch funds and they on selling them re inburst the Branch’s accounts it was moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary be instructed to get in contact with Bro. D. Bush and pay him £40.00 from Branch funds for 50 A.S.L.E.F. loyalty badges. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars since last meeting. Bro. F. Diplock asked if the Secretary would repost all the Circulars as he had not read all of them. The Secretary said he would.

Bro. M. Allen asked if circular No.188/1982 Railway Development, if the Secretary would write to the person in charge of this area, Mr. J. Barfield, to see if we can get any documents from him that might help us with our line also to mention that if wanted any from us, we would make them available.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to give details of correspondence to and from the Branch. After which Bro. M. Allen asked if there had been no reply to the Secretary’s letter dated 9.10.82., not even a acknowledgement that this should be written in again, also to telephone around to people we know who have used the Welfare and get then to write to the B.R.B. and complain about the closure of this service. Bro. M. Allen asked the Secretary to telephone our late Bro. K. Savage’s wife and explain to her and ask would she write in to B.R. and say what a good service they are doing.

The Chairman asked for any other matters arising as there were none he asked for District Council report.

This Bro. M. Allen could not give as he explained the next meeting was not until 1st November.

The Chairman then moved o to the Football Pontoon. The Secretary then went on to say that due to the depot was sometime in the future to close, it would be an idea to hold some sort of party. The financing could come from something like the pontoon which is now run by the branch, as promised at the last month’s meeting a copy of the amended rules have been on displayed on the notice board. The Secretary felt that if the depot was to shut and the question of what and how the Branch Funds would be dissolved, he could not see other members of another union being allowed to enjoy the outcome of this discussion as he believed that the members will only wish to share the fund among A.S.L.E.F. members which the Secretary said only be right, but he went on to say, was that many f not more of the N.U.R. members had enjoyed helping to swell the Branch Funds by playing Pontoon and he felt now we have been told of this closure of the line we should think positively of all members effected by the closure with the view of holding a Grand Party, but putting in a clause that if after 2 years the B.R. have changed their minds and the line remains open, we should hold a Christmas party at the end of 1984/85 and a rethinking on the funds.

After which Bro. M. allen asked how much would this fund expect to make giving 2 years was the time limit? The Secretary said that the fund should if we maintain 54 members make around £8.00 profit but was aiming around £10 – 15 which after 2 years should be around £200 which should enable those who have contributed to the Pontoon be allowed to the Grand Party free with their guest.

Bro. M. Allen asked what would those who do not play pontoon be asked to pay  towards this party. Answer he would be expected a charge to be made which would make it fairer to those who did play Pontoon. It was then moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the Pontoon ceases under the Branch Control and will play no further part in it. All in favour.

The Chairman then went on to say that our latest member to the depot, Bro. R. Simpson was an N.U.R. member, but while lodging with the Branch Secretary has asked if he could become a member of A.S.L.E.F. The Secretary stated that as it was on the table at the September meeting but due to lack of time this had not been minuted and would the Branch excepted this member and endorsed the action of the Secretary who had already sent off the filled in application form in September.

It was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. R. Simpson be made welcome as a member of A.S.L.E.F. and of this branch and we endorse the action of the Branch Secretary. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to move on to the conclusion of the Hardship Fund. The Secretary mentioned that he had not been able to the members outstanding for payment. So we must take it now as their loss and would ask the members to allow him to wind up the affairs the Secretary went on to say that on closing the Hardship Fund £8.06 will have to be returned, but the £50 donated will go in the Tunbridge Wells West Branch Mutual Assistance Fund, once the Audits have completed the job.

It was the moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the Secretary conclude the Hardship Fund and when completed hand them to the two Audits. All in favour.

The Chairman then went on to L.D.C. Report.

The L.D.C. Secretary then mentioned the Long Sidings which Mr. Austin has said that this sidings will be put out of use because of no lights or walkways.

Toilets at Oxted this has now been repaired

T.U.C. Report is now complete and a copy was given to the Branch Secretary.

Flexible Rosters

The L.D.C. have managed to get one step ahead of management, as they had written into management their interpretation of the McCarthy Report and we now find ourselves in a position where we have a fail to agree by management.

We now will have to have our minute in one way or another before we can move on to the next stage. After some discussion, Bro. M. Allen mentioned that he with the L.D.C. Chairman had been asked to check three different workings. One we was asked to pre-scrutinise on a Sunday, we checked with each other and agreed to book the Sunday with the money earned less tax and insurance to go to Branch Funds, this being £20 from each of them, we asked therefore that the Branch excepted the £40 for Branch Funds.

It was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the Branch excepts the monies earned by the two L.D.C. members for booking to work Sunday 3rd October 1982. All in favour.

Bro. M. Allen then mentioned that there was 3 meetings outstanding and was due to take place during the coming week, they were

Item No.17 staff side request for two L.D.C. members to be released for L574.

Variable Rostering

Local Traffic Management.

On the closure of the line after some information about what had been happening. Management had said that we could not jump over Sectional Council by holding a meeting on the closure. Bro. M. Allen has written back to explain we do not wist to go over our Sectional Council, but wish to contribute to and hear what was being done as laid down on the notice of intent.

Bro. M. Allen also went on to sat that it is the aim of the L.D.C. to oppose the closure of this passenger service and lines, but we must sort out the Redundancy on a parallel line.

The Chairman thanked the L.D.C. Secretary for his report and asked for any other L.D.C. business or matters arising from report.

Bro. J. Carney did speak on what he as an L.D.C. member found happening to the L.D.C. when a meeting was cancelled at short notice after referring to a recent incident  he moved. That the L.D.C. be instructed to conform to Conditions of Service on the interpretation of the 12 hours rest clause, and that any future meetings with management or other persons while carrying out L.D.C. business, they shall have at least 12 hours rest either side of the booking on and off time.

This was seconded by Bro. A. Herriott who gave a short talk on the motion after which a vote was taken and the motion was carried.

Bro. M. Allen said he will note and reminded member that the L.D.C. will be asked to cover work at the depot to get 12 hours either side.

The Chairman then asked for any other business as none came forward he asked members in attendance was any one interested in Branch Secretary Assistance or could they ask around if anyone might be interested. Please would they make it known to the Branch Secretary. 

As time was running out the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.30.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 21st  November 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Four members present Bros. A. Herriett, J. Carney, M. Allen & F. Diplock

Chairman Bro. C. Exley not present, moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. A. Herriett act as Chairman for the day. Carried.

Acting Chairman Bro. A. Herriett opened the meeting 10.15 a.m.

Minutes of the last meeting were read out.

Matters Arising

Correction to the reference made to Assistant General Don Pullen, should read Assistant General Secretary Don Pullen

Reference to the loyalty badges issued through District Council No.4 at a cost of 80p and the fact that some form of subsidy would seem reasonable.

Branch Secretary mentioned London Bridge have been subsidising their badges from Branch Funds. Moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. M. Allen. That the Tunbridge Wells Branch subsides the loyalty badges requested by members of the Tunbridge Wells Branch by 30p each badge. Not extra badges. Carried.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary write to D. Bush of Slade’s Green Branch, who ordered and distributed the badges, to thank him for what he has done. Carried.

Circulars received sine last meeting and matters arising from circulars.

Moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That this branch nominates Bro. M. Allen to attend the 1983 A.A.D. Further that the Secretary be instructed to write to all Branches in Group 40 to ask for their support for our nominee. Carried.

Moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That this Banchwish to advise the Executive Committee of the concern of this Branch over the rules governing members who worked in the strike not being applied. Rule 50.

Further that the low amount of money required to be paid as a fine, £10 per day worked be deplored.

Further to this the lack of information on how the members who worked in the strike will be advised, how the monies will be collected and what will happen if the fine should not be paid. Carried.

T.U.C. courses for union representatives in connection with Bros. A. Herriett & J. Norris attending L.D.C. courses.

Refunding of Trade Union contributions paid by members during the strike.

Acknowledgement from Sectional Council ‘B’ secretary in connection with our correspondence on line closure.

B.R. proposed to do away with Welfare service  - reply to our correspondence from Head Office. Transfer of Bro. H. Marchant to Tunbridge Wells and Bro. R. Simpson change of union membership to A.S.L.E.F. from N.U.R. correspondence to Head office.

Long service badge (40 years) for Bro. B. Gent. Correspondence to Head Office

Letter from Head Office reference the Hardship Fund, this has been wound up.

Flexible Rostering 1/3 of depots have agreed but this included the 71 depots where it was imposed and which have renegotiated.

Permission given for  privatisation of Gatwick Airport Service.

Election of Officers of Branch 1983

Chairman Bro. M. Allen, Vice Chairman Bro. A. Herriet, Branch Secretary Bro. J. Carney & Assistant Secretary Held Over

Committee

Bros. F. Diplock, R. Luckhurst, G. Ellard & P. Bodies

L.D.C. nominations

Bros. R. Luckhurst & M. Allen

Trustees

Bro W. Baldwin

L.D.C. Report

Bro. M. Allen gave the L.D.C. reported and opened by advising of the change in the set up of the L.D.C. in 1983

Chairman Bro. M. Allen, Secretary Bro. A. Herriett & Bros. R. Luckhurst & J. Carney.

Health & safety Rep Bro. M. Allen

Items included in report

Flexible rostering local agreement Failed to Agree.

Local Traffic Management introduction

Closure of line Grove Junction to Birchden Junction proposed by B.R.

Matters arising

Any further information on morning staff to stations – nothing to report.

Oliver Tomms installation at Oxted, matter resolved in favour of Creda water heater.

No other business meeting closed 12.20

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 19th December 1982, 10.15 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Four members were present they were Bros. C. Exley, J. Carney, M. Allen & A. Herriett.

Bro. J. Knowles did join the meeting shortly before the finish of the meeting.


The Chairman was Bro. C. Exley who opened the meeting at 10.32 and he called the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting, after which Bro. M. Allen. That the minutes of the November meeting be taken as a true record. Seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked for any matters arising, as no matters came forward, the Chairman moved on to Circulars, Bro. M. Allen asked as they had all been posted. Moved that they be taken as read with the exception of any voting papers. The Chairman asked that the Circular on travel facilities also be read, this was then put forward. That all circulars that have been posted since the last meeting with the exception of circulars Nos. 221 Society National Schools 1983 & 224 Simplification of Procedure for Issue of Travel Tickets be taken as read. Seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. All in favour.

Circular No. 221/1982 was dealt with first, this was on Society National Schools 1983. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that we as a branch should encourage members to go on this course as those who have been in the past know that it is a very worthwhile course. It was then put to Bro. A. Herriott if he wish to go as he would benefit by the course and help 

him as L.D.C. Secretary. Bro. A. Herriott agreed, it was then moved by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. C. Exley. That Bro. A. Herriott’s to go forward from this Branch as a nominee for the Society National Schools at Dorking. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to Circular No.22 Society National Schools 1983 & 224 Simplification of Procedure for Issue of Travel Tickets and gave his thoughts on what he saw as the worsening of Travel Facilities and explain that under the new system he believed that you would not be able to break your journey without having to use up another ticket. Bro. C. Exley then asked if the Branch would write to Had Office and explain to them how we see traveling when the new system comes in.



BRANCH OFFICERS 1983
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. M. ALLEN
ASS. CHAIRMAN. A. HERRIOTT
SECRETARY. J. CARNEY
ASS. SECRETARY.





On matters arising when the Chairman found none coming forward and moved on to correspondence.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report as there was no District Council report last meeting.

Bro. M. Allen reported that the T.U.C.C. was meeting on February 1st at Tunbridge Wells over the proposed closure of the Birchden to Grove Junction line. Bro. M. Allen mentioned that he will be sending to Sectional Council a report on this meeting also updating the figures in that report.

It was asked by that a letter from the Secretary should go to Head Office informing them of this meeting.

On the accommodation of drivers at Tunbridge Wells West. It has been proposed to take over the old flat that is attached to the main station buildings, a plan will be displayed in the L.D.C. case and any members who wish to know more or ask questions will they forward then to L.D.C., there will be a site meeting to be held in the new year between the L.D.C. and management over the plans they have submitted.

One item that have been raised with the L.D.C. and are still being dealt with are.

A.W.S. testing magnet at T.W.W.

Orange street lights confusion

Oxted home down signal and Uckfield down home signal, both need to be re-aligned. Badly placed at the moment

The Chairman then asked if there was any other business, as none came forward, he wished all members present a very merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year and closed the meeting at 11.35.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 16th January 1983

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Five members were present they were Bros. M. Allen, J. Carney, F. Diplock,  A. Herriett & R. Simpson

The Chairman welcome all and opened the meeting at 10.22, the Secretary then read the minutes after which it was moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. Herriett. That the minutes of the December meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

On matter arising it was suggested that the Secretary see if any of the members of this branch could attend the T.U.C.C. at Tunbridge Wells, Assembly Hall, not as objectors but as observers this the Secretary did note.

The Chairman asked if the Secretary would ring up John Stevens at A.S.L.E.F. Head Office over the T.U.C.C. from Head Office and if the Chairman and the Secretary could attend with them as there local representatives.

On circulars, it was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That all circulars be taken as read. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to Trades Council Report.

The Secretary who is the Branch’s delegate had been notified by the outgoing Secretary that as no one came forward at there last meeting to take over the officers of the Council it was with regret that the Tunbridge Wells Trades Council had to cease being an active Council and had suggested that delegates should seek affiliation to another Trades Council. It was suggest by the floor to ring up Mrs. Webb to see if there was anything changed about the Trades Council.

On to L.D.C. report was given by the new L.D.C. Secretary who everyone welcomed. Bro. A Herriett then gave a short account of what the L.D.C. have got waiting to be finished they were

Duty 402, 1310 noise, H&S – Lights on signals, A.W.S. awaiting reply, Sectional Council Machinery and Negotiations being dealt with, 2 L.D.C. members on L574 & new premisses

Also mentioned that under the new L.T.M., listing and daily alteration were to be done by Essex House. The Branch did aske that the L.D.C. write to Management to hold a meeting to amend the L.D.C minutes on Rest Day/ Comp. days notice agreements.

The L.D.C. were at the moment compiling at letter to management for a site meeting at Tunbridge Wells West over parking and where and how they were to park. This would be sent as soon as possible.

On the new booking on point to be at the station buildings  management had suggested 20” x 20” lockers in place of the caged ones, we have now got. But the L.D.C. felt that it would have to consult its members through the branch after a small discussion it was moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That we inform management that the wishes of the men was that they wish to keep the caged locker, what they have got. All in favour.

After which the L.D.C. had finished, the Chairman moved on for the Branch Secretary Assistant, as no one come forward the Secretary under any other business moved that as the Branch figures were not completed in time for the December meeting, branch accounts can be disclosed before handing over to Bro. M. Allen  one of the Branch’s Auditors, the Secretary explained that due to Tebit’s law we must isolate the different accounts into 3 accounts.

One for Political Fund, one for Branch’s reclaimed money from Head Office, and the other for all other monies.

Tebit’s law require to know what is in the first two accounts but not the third and as our accounts are all in one account we could lose all of it.

After a short debate it was moved by the Chairman Bro. M.Allen and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That all monies that is to go under the heading of Political Fund be put into a new deposit account. All in favour.

That all monies sent by Had Office under Rule 37 Clause (1) shall be left in Account No. 8327556 with the Nat West. All in favour.

And That all other money be transferred to the Tunbridge Wells West Branch Mutual Assistance Fund. All in favour

After which no other business did come forward so the meeting closed at 12.10

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 20th February 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were five members present, they were Bros. M. Allen, J. Carney, A. Herriett, F. Diplock & K. Knowles.

The Chairman welcomed all and opened the meeting at 10.16. The Secretary then read the minutes of the January meting after which Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the minutes of the January meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

On matters arising from the minutes was

T.U.C.C., the meeting was attended by Bros. M. Allen and Neil Milligan representing A.S.L.E.F. Head Office, and from that meeting Bro. M. Allen had got submissions from the Kent and Sussex County Councils and the one from Head Office and what Bro. Allen had produced and anyone wishing to read that report would see Bro. M. Allen. After a short debate on the cuts in our line, it came to light that the branch should purchase two books to help the L.D.C. and the branch over the cuts in not only our line but what may happen in the future.

One was the “Serpell Report” known as railway finances report of a committee chaired by Sir David Serpall K.C.B. price £.6.75

The other was the consequence of Rail Closure price £4.50

It was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. K. Knowles. That the secretary to be instructed to purchase the Railway Finances by Sir David Serpell price £6.75 and the Consequence of Rail Closure. All in favour.

The Chairman then mentioned that while attending the T.U.C.C. meeting at the Assembly Hall, Tunbridge Wells, had spoken to Mr. Robbins the Divisional Manage and mentioned to him that this branch’s L.D.C. had been trying in vain to get a meeting with him over the closures, it was stated that he did not know of any request but assured Bro. M. Allen that if another request was put in with his name mentioned, it would be seen too. This was greeted by the Branch members in attendance with full agreement.

On the subject of Trade Council, now that Tunbridge Wells Trades Council has closed it was then moved by Bro. K. Knowles and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary is instructed to get in conducted with the Tonbridge Trades Council with the reason of get affliation with that Trades Council. All in favour.

That concluded matters arising from the minutes.

The Secretary then moved to circulars and the heading of all these that had been posted since last meeting were read and nomination papers were dealt with. It was passed and all but 11/1983 -1983 A.A.D. London & 12/1983 – W.E.A. Residential Youth 1983.

Which were for voting paper in our Bro. M. Allen and St. Leonards Bro. P. Bates. After a short discussion it was decided to place our vote against Bro. M. Allen and wished all the best. Moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That our vote goes to Bro. M. Allen of this branch. All in favour.

The Secretary made it known he wished to go to the Youth School it was then moved. That Bro. J. Carney be nominated to go to the W.E.A. Youth School 1983. All in favour.

Moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

On matters arising from circulars. Bro. F. Diplock asked about the 6% pay rise. The Chairman did give a short reply and mentioned that this months Loco Journal did give a up to date position on the pay award.

The Secretary mentioned that R. Plummer had now left the union and that Head Office had asked him for what reason did this man wanted to leave, and the the Secretary could only put that this man worked during the strike, it was asked from the floor, what was now the position with this man if a problem came up involving him. The L.D.C. mentioned that they would take up a case from this man but if they had a fail to agree it could not be progressed to either Sectional council or Head office, but to make sure would the Secretary write to Head Office for clarification over this.

There being no District Council report, the Chairman moved on to L.D.C. report. The L.D.C report by the L.D.C. Secretary. The Secretary of the L.D.C. Bro. A. Herriett mentioned that on Vic. Duty 402, Unit 1310 and on signals, nothing had came forward yet. Also awaiting action was on the closure of Line, the water heater overflow pipe was done, the toilets were found not to be in use so this will be taken up by the Health & Safety Officers.

On Machinery and Negotiations, this was being dealt with by Sectional Council, new accommodation and car park were also being taken up. On A.W.S. and this had been given. About no A.W.S. testing magnets to be used on Southern. Bro. J. Carney asked if he could take this up and the L.D.C. as it was his original letter that started the inquiry.

Under any other business, Bro. K. Knowles brought to the branch’s attention that signal boxes on the Hurst Green to Oakfield line were open on a Sunday and was asking if any trains had or would be travelling down there.

The L.D.C. Secretary and Chairman then mentioned that a letter was written to all L.D.C. who travelled down that line informing them as we had lost our Sundays we would expect them not to work any trains over that line for whatever the reasons unless of course we were to over it on a regular basis. After a short debate it was then move by Bro. K. Knowles and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock.

That the Secretary be instructed to write to the Branches of Tonbridge, Norwood, Victoria, Redhill and Brighton, and remind them that even though signal boxes on the Hurst Green to Uckfield line are open to carry out essential maintenance. Our position at Tunbridge Wells West is te same. That no trains are to be work down the lines Hurst Green to Uckfield or to Birchden Junction to Grove Junction for what ever reason unless Tunbridge Wells West drivers work on Sundays on a regular basis. Your help and your observance on this will be gratefully appreciated, please bring this to the attention of your members of your members. Thank you .T.W.W.

All in favour

Bro. F. Diplock then asked the L.D.C. about men being taken off their booked roster with their permission to accommodate a man at our depot to work his rest day were normally would not have but the job covered by a loan man. This had come to light when R. Plummer had been asked to move from his rest day, in which he had replied who am I doing it for. The L.D.C. Chairman said he had spoken to the T.C.S. and informed him while the L.D.C. appreciates and agrees to men coming off their roster to allow another man to work at the depot, we the L.D.C. could not allow men to choose who they would allow to work their rest days, just because they do not like them. It must be fair and the L.D.C. Chairman asked the T.C.S. that if the L.D.C. found any breach of this, then they would stop all moves from master roster all together.

Bro. M. Allen, Health & Safety Officer, then mentioned that under Health & Safety, he had written in over the lighting in the yard as it was found that on half the wattage was in the lamps and this was now been taken up.

The Chairman then asked if any one was interested in taking up the Branch Secretary Assistant position, no names came forward and as no other business come forward, the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.09 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 20th March 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 10 members, they were Bros. A. Herriett, L. Stephenson, C. Tandy, W. Baldwin, F. Diplock, C. Exley, R. Simpson, K. Knowles, J. Carney & M. Allen.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.14 a.m. and welcomed all and informed the meeting that as the Branch was expecting Bro. D. Fullick, President of the Executive Committee, at 11.00 and asked that we speedily get through the Branch business, he then asked for the minutes.

After the minutes had been read it was moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. K. Knowles. That the minutes of the February meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Circulars were then read out as they had been posted, it was moved. That circular since last meeting be taken as read and only the heading be read. Proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded Bro. F. Diplock. All in favour. After which the Secretary moved on to Correspondence between the Branch and other persons.

The Secretary did then go and see Bro. D. Fullick from his train at 10.43.

One discussion on correspondence, Bro. H. Love case was asked about and the reply from Mr. A.C. Alden, N.U.R. Sectional Council ‘C’. the members present did feel that he should have been paid and that the N.U.R. are making excuses for themselves about not taking up this case, it was then asked if the Secretary would write to our Sectional Council ‘B’ and seek advice on where  or not Sectional council ‘C’ could not help this man further, also the Secretary would write to Mr. A.C. Alden and correct his last paragraph as it is the case that is to be fought for not what union the man belongs too.

The Blacklegs, the Secretary mentioned he had received copies of letters dent from Head Office to those members who did work through the strike.

The Chairman moved on to District Council report, Bro. M. Allen mentioned that there had not been to a District Council meeting since last meeting as iwas not due to April.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report, Bro. A. Herriott then mentioned that unit 1310, Signal lights – was still awaiting a reply, Vic 402 duty a reply had been received and it said that the rear part of 402 duty, the shunting part was to be covered by Control when the empties was cancelled, but by who?

Bro. A. Herriett mentioned that he and Bro. M. Allen would be going to pre-scrutiny this Friday, the 26th March and if members can recall we have never gone to a pre-scrutiny this early before so there might be something difficult in the content.

The meeting between the L.D.C. Sectional Council did take part and the Council will when the depot has been decided to close be the first to be told and of course they will let us know but more important, meetings will be set with the L.D.C. and each member will see the Council with an L.D.C. member present to sort out which would be best for each member, also what financial help would be available to them.

On the T.U.C.C. Report this is not expected until August.

That concluded the L.D.C. Report.

The Chairman then moved on to the Health & Safety Officer’s Report where mentioned that the lights in the yard at Tunbridge Wells West were fitted with half wattage light bulbs and when this was brought to management’s attention they said they did not know, they were putting in the wrong wattage but had found out the correct wattage and these were now on order.

It was then the Chairman called for suspension of Standing Orders so that our guest Bro. Derrick Fullick could carry out a presentation to one of our members. It was then moved by Bro. C. Exley and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That standing orders by the suspension for the time being to allow our guest Bro. D. Fullick to carry out a presentation plus give a talk on the up to date position at Head Office. All in favour. Time was 11.13 a.m.

The President of our Executive Committee Bro. Derrick Fullick thanked all for asking him to attend this meeting, to carry out a presentation to Bro. Fred Diplock for being with union for 45 years. Before he handed the long service badge, the Chairman did mention that Bro. Fred Diplock had been active within the union on and off since before 1945 as that was the earliest that the Branch had. The President then presented Bro. Fred Diplock with his badge.

The Chairman then mentioned to Bro. F. Diplock that the Branch would also like to present him with a memento of this Branch and presented him with a pen set inscribed from A.S.L.E.F.

Then Bro. D. Fullick asked that the Secretary write to the Journal and give a branch report.

The Chairman then moved that the floor now be given over to Bro. Derrick Fullick and asked him to give us an up to date report on the latest at Head Office that of the 6%,  plus One Man Operation.

Bro. D. Fullick then gave a very full report and what was going on between the union and the B.R.B., mention was made of the Tribunal Decisions 79 & 80, 80 being the 6% also mention was McCarthy had said that no one should get any rewards from flexible rosters until all depots. Bro. D. Fullick said this had pleased the unions as it stops L.D.C. excepting all sorts of things outside the Decision 77/78.

One thing mentioned which did please everyone was the 6% pay award was to be paid on Thursday 31st March including 25 weeks back pay, the remaining three weeks in April.

To get this the union had to agree with Decision 80. This was One Man Operation and the training of the men concerned and the rewards would be £6 + 6% per turn or part off. This was all that the unions had to agree too, thus they felt was better that B.R.B. first offer of £2.50 per day and no 6%.

The units, 455, are now being after training of the men concerned, brought into service and once the stock is available will spread. After some interesting points Bro. D. Fullick finished his report.

The Chairman then invited Branch members to ask questions to Bro. Fullick of which there were quite a few all with very interesting answers.

After everyone had ask all their questions. Bo. C. Exley moved and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That a vote of thanks to the E.C. over the work done over the past 12 months and endorse the action over the report in Decision 80.

Bro. D. Fullick thanked the mover and the seconder and all branch member for their vote of thanks and suggested that the Secretary sends it to the General Secretary and asked that each E.C. member has a copy this would be appreciated as and when they go around their areas, they can mention that they have received a vote of thanks from branches.

The Chairman then resumed Standing Orders at 12.50 and as there were no further business closed the meeting by thanking all for attending.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 17th April 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There were 6 member in attendance, they were 

Bros. A. Herriott, R. Simpson, K. Knowles, F. Diplock & J. Carney.

Bro. M. Allen sent his apologies and the Secretary then asked if any members present would take the chair for today’s meeting, it was then nominated ans seconded by Bros A. Herriot & K. Knowles. That Bro. F. Diplock would sit in the chair for todays meeting only. All were in favour and Bro. F. Diplock excepted.

The Chairman then thanked all for attending and opened the meeting at 10.16. The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read circulars since last meeting. The Chairman went on to correspondence to and from branch since last meeting. The Secretary started by reading out a letter sent to the branch by Bro. F. Diplock which was a thank you for the presentation made to him at the last Branch meeting.

The Secretary then went back to Circular 69 (1983 AAD District No.40) it was of surprise that the Secretary received this from Head Office as Bro. M. Allen had not contacted anyone over this but the Secretary mentioned that Bro. M. Allen must have got his reasons and is sure that everything is Ok, but now we have no one to represent this District and Head Office have sent this nomination paper. Bro. K. Knowles asked if the Secretary would like to be nominated as he had been in contact with all the recent communications, this the Branch Secretary thanked Bro. K. Knowles but as he felt he was not experienced enough to feel confident he declined, as there were no other nominations, the Chairman then went on to District Council Report. This is usually given by Bro. M. Allen, so the Chairman held the report over until next meeting.

The Chairman then brought to the members attention that a new member had joined our Branch, transferring from Norwood depot. The letter from that Branch which had been mentioned in correspondence was now read in full it showed that Bro. J. Staggs was a good Branch attender and the Branch hopes that once settled in , he will continued his support at Branch meetings.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report.

Bro. A. Herriot opened his report by stating that on Unit 1310, no reply had yet been received.

On the May diagrams, these have now been excepted with very few minor alterations. It was asked by Bro. Knowles and the Chairman if a copy of the workings could be left on the table at the depot for the men to look at and the L.D.C. Secretary agreed to as soon as the new copies had arrived from C.T.O. One thing mentioned was there is a P.N. now at East Grinstead on one duty now.

On Machinery & Negotiations, another meeting is to be arranged, this is to be arranged with the T.R.O. in the chair.

The rest day chart will be corrected and brought up to date on Tuesday 19th April.

Bro. A. Herriott then went on to mentioned that Bro. M. Allen submission to the railway planners over the closure of the Eridge to Tunbridge Wells Central line is now on its way to them, after being held at Train Crew Manager’s Offices, management believing it was their copy.

Redhill to East Croydon refreshers was being seen to.

Management had informed the L.D.C. it had been hoped to see the D.E.M.U. back into Victoria this coming May, but due to the fans not yet being fitted at Victoria it was hoped to have them there in the October alterations.

That concluded the L.D.C. report.

The Secretary the mentioned that the position of Branch Secretary Assistant post was still vacant and that when Bro. M. Allen moves to Seaford which does seem quite soon, there will be a vacancy of Branch Chairman, L.D.C. member, District Council Delegate and Trades Council Delegate Assistant.

The Secretary asked members to bear these in mind and if anyone new off or wish to be come one of the above please do see the Branch Secretary or attend the next meeting.

The Chairman then asked for any other business as none came forward he then closed the meeting at 11.55.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 19th June 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were Bros. K. Knowles, F. Diplock, A. Herriott, M. Allen & J. Carney.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.10 and welcomed all for attending. The minutes of the April meeting were then read, due to no meeting being held in May due to no quorum being present.

After the April minutes were read and no queries made on them. Bro. A. Herriott proposed and seconded by Bro. K. Knowles. That the minutes of the April meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved onto the circulars since the last meeting, after which the members present asked if the circular No. 83/1983 “Future of Drivers Depots, Southern Region” would be reposted. The Secretary then moved onto Correspondence to and from Branch.

Bro. M. Allen then asked on correspondence , asked if the Branch Secretary be instructed to obtain 6 copies of that letter and be given to the L.D.C. It was then proposed and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary be instructed to obtain 6 copies of the letter sent from Head office ref. SR/M/Misc dated 20th April 1983 and then given to the L.D.C. All in favour.

The Secretary then brought to the members attention that he had received in the post notification of R. Woodbridge ceasing to be a member of A.S.L.E.F. and suggested that a letter be sent to Head office to inform them that we would when the problem arises, be in a similar position as with R.J. Plummer and should therefore advise Head Office of this. It was then suggested by Bro. M. Allen and seconded by Bro. A. Herriott. That the Secretary be instructed to write to Head Office over R. Woodbridge with concern that he is no longer a Trade Union member, with A.S.L.E.F., that they would seek to see if he has joined other Trade Union as with R.J. Plummer. All in favour.

Bro. M. Allen then mentioned that on the proposed closure of the Birchden Junction to Grove Junction that the Secretary seek from Head Office a photo copy of the full report of the T.U.C.C., it was then seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Secretary be instructed to write to Head Office and asked for a copy of the report given to them by the T.U.C.C. over the proposal to withdraw the passenger train service between Tunbridge Wells Central and Eridge. All in favour.

After no more questions on correspondence, the chairman then moved on to District Council as this had not met during the time of the last meeting, this was held over.

A mention was made of  a collection being made at the depot for one of the men at Tunbridge Wells West, this was to be started with a call for £1.00 per member. After some discussion, it was then moved by Bro. A. Herriott and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That a collection be started for Bro. H. Marchant, this to be done between the drivers only and a call of £1.00 per member will be asked to be given by the Secretary to Bro. Marchant when he has been told when he must have his two suspension, this to be between A.S.L.E.F. members only. All in favour.

Chairman then moved o to L.D.C. report

Bro. A. Herriott then mentioned that Unit 1310 was still being dealt with.

May workins had been agreed and not much alterations and no flexible rosters.

Reg Brown letter is being written to Bro. A. Aspey and Bro. R. Brown over shunting duties.

When Bro. M. Allen knows of his move to Seaford, the L.D.C. will be seeking a Establishment meeting with a view of not filling their two vacancies and reduce to 38 men.

The L.D.C. were at this time awaiting a meeting of the minutes they are to be reprinted and will be show they are being updated.

That concluded the L.D.C. report.

Health & Safety

Bro. M. Allen then mentioned that on Health and Safety the following were being looked into.

Booking Hall Tunbridge Wells West lighting, alteration to East Croydon, ear plugs, toilet Oxted, Tunbridge Wells car park – holes in parking area, paper towels - Oxted and East Grinstead.

There being no other items the Chairman then moved on to any other business as none come forward, the meeting closed at 12.17 p.m.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 19th July 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There being 7 members in attendance, they were

Bros. K. Knowles, F. Diplock, A. Herriott, M. Allen, J. Carney, R. Simpson & H. Love.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.10 and welcomed all, the minutes was then read by the Secretary after which the Chairman asked for any comments or demands made upon them. It was then proposed by Bro. K. Knowles and seconded by Bro F. Diplock. That the minutes of the June meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars received since the last meeting.

T.U.C. Basic Railway Course. It was mentioned that Bro. A. Herriott be nominated to go on this course as he missed out on last years course. All agreed.

On correspondence to and from Branch since last meeting. The Secretary did mention that the following headings had been received or dealt with. After which a short debate was given, the Chairman then moved on to District Council report. The Secretary mentioned that this was the first time he had attended a District Council and found it very useful and interesting and he had made some notes but not yet written them up for posting at the depot.

The Secretary did mention that on the E.C. report given by the President Bro. D. Fullick. That rest days and overtime was a subject that not only were they worried about, but management, and as it was the whole trade unions aim to terminate excessive overtime, but problem facing not only the unions, but the men themselves was that if men choose to ban overtime just like that, management would just cancel trains and work with men available.

On pay the union was pleased to see Jimmy Knapp got the N.U.R. Secretary’s position and have had very sensible meetings with him since. They did have a meeting with management on pay and after some discussion all parties excepted the 4.25% pay rise. The offer was one with no strings, if they had pressed it through to a tribunal it was arranged that Lord McCarthy would attach strings and whatever he decided management had said they would not pay 1/2p more.

The president then went on to assured us that the job of the E.C. is now to avoid the pit falls of the past and look to see what we can get for the future.

On Flexible Rostering, the unions were having problem having to get a meeting with management the one that was arranged was cancelled by management for no reason, but we know that management are trying to hold consultation meetings with L.D.C. while meetings are being held at National Level. Management are trying to undermined the union’s  case.

On extra day leave as per 1982 pay award, management have agreed this extra day for 1983 but a meeting has not yet ben made but would be expected to be either at Christmas or carried over to next year in the form of a lieu day.

That concluded the report from Bro. Fullick, we then had a report from Bro. Milligan after which Bro. Eames gave a report on Sectional Council “B”. He stressed that all L.D.C.s should ask for an establishment meeting every six months whether they need one or not, this is required so Sectional Council keep in contact and keep their figures up to date.

On Tunbridge Wells, no movement yet on the closure, the minister has not yet decided and management are not pushing.

Timetable next year, there is a lot of carve ups of which a photo copy is to be sent to each delegate as soon as it is received, the Secretary will post same at Tunbridge Wells. Sundays will stay the same, East Grinstead only to London Mon-Sat, some London to East Grinstead but Oakfield will have alter frequency to take in account of single line timings.

That ended the District Council report.

The Chairman then went on to the vacancy that will be left open when he moves to his new depot and as this is his last meeting as an official of the Tunbridge Wells branch, he did thank everyone for everything and mentioned that everything must and will continue. The same whoever is in the Chair but did mention that he had enjoyed being at Tunbridge Wells West.

Before nominations for the position that will be vacated by Bro. M. (Tony) Allen, the Secretary did say a few words of thanks to Bro. M. Allen (Tony) for all the work he had put in Tunbridge Wells a person who will not be forgotten and the Branch wishes him all the best for the future at his new depot.

The Secretary did also mention that he had ordered a gift for Tony this had not arrived but asked if the Branch give their approval for this gift and suggested that it came out of Branch funds. It was then moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the Branch agrees with the Secretary’s action on purchasing a gift for Bro. M. Allen and it to be paid for from Branch funds. All in favour.

It was then suggested by the Secretary that Bro. M. Allen become a Honorary Member of this Branch, all agreed. Bro. M. Allen thanked everyone and was touched by the feelings of the members but assured us he would like to come to the Branch meeting until he had moved but asked the Secretary if he would check with Head Office over the policies of Honorary member, when a member of another Branch.

The Chairman then moved on to nomination for Chairman as from the next meeting.

Bro. K. Knowles made it known that he wished to stand as Chairman as from the next meeting and with no other being interested, he was nominated by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. H. love. That Ken Knowles be the Branch’s Chairman for the rest of the year and a

to complete the term of office now vacant. All in favour.

On District Council delegate, the Assistant Bro. J. Carney made it known that he wished to take over as delegate for this Branch. It was then moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That John Carney be this Branch District Council Delegate for the term of office now vacated. All in favour.

Now Bro. J. Carney is District Council Delegate, it now leaves the Assistant Delegate vacant. Bro. A. Herriett made it known that he would be willing to stand. It was then moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. K. Knowles. That Andrew Herriett be this Assistant District Council representative for the rest of the year and to complete the term of office now vacant. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to Trustee and Auditor Bro. J. Carney mentioned that Bro. G. Ellard would likely to be interested in that position. he is a member of the Branch Committee at this time, but the Secretary said he would ask him before next meeting. It was then moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. A. Herriot. That Gerry Ellard be asked if he would except the position of Trustee and Auditor of this Branch until the end of the year when general election take place. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked if anyone was interested as Trade Council Assistant Delegate. Bro. K. Knowles made it known that he would be interested and it was then moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. K. Knowles to be the Trade Council Assistant Delegate for this Branch. All in favour

The Chairman then moved to a vacancy that has been with us a while and that is of Branch Secretary Assistant. It was mentioned that this position is only required in the event of the Secretary not being able to fulfil his duties in exceptional circumstances and up to date, this has not be required. It was then Bro. R. Simpson made it known that he was interested in that position. It was then moved by Bro. K. Knowles and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Rodney Simpson be Assistant Branch Secretary until the next A.G.M. as this position is vacant. All in favour.

The chairman also suggested that Bro. R. Simpson be put on the list as a Committee member. This all agreed.

The Chairman then asked the L.D.C. Secretary for his report.

The L.D.C. Secretary started by listing all the meetings held so far

Establishment meeting – remains 40 but worked by 38 men.

Flexible Roster under consultation as it was management’s fault to agree, diagrams scrutiny on flexible roster.

On rosters the L.D.C. have kept in touch with management, because it was now feeling of this L.D.C. that we should be in on the roster and not to have one that management might try and impose on us.

On the Fail to agree by management, they now say under this new Area Manger, we can have all want the fail to agree at our meeting held with Mr. Burrows of Redhill. Meeting to be arranged.

On Annual Leave, the roster will be posted until the end of July.

L.D.C. minutes are to be revised and the new minutes should read better by cutting out minutes no longer applicable.

That concluded the L.D.C. report.

Under any other business, Bro. F. Diplock brought up that Ron Bridger has not yet received his 45 year badge. The Secretary pointed out that he was awaiting someone to bring this up as this man worked for two days during the strike. He wanted the branch’s feelings on what they wished him to do, it was then agreed that the Secretary do write to Head Office and obtain a badge for Bro. R. Bridger, but not to make a presentation at the branch. All agreed.

Bro. M. Allen asked the Secretary if he would bring up Bro. H. Love’s case again, now in the light of their new General, Bro. Jimmy Knapp. This he said he would do. The Chairman then went on to L.D.C. nomination, it was normal practice for the Branch to nominate a member of the branch who then becomes the only member of the Branch who then becomes the only member to stand for the position vacant. But as we had two popular members put forward for the L.D.C. position, it was all agreed by a show of hands, that a ballot will take placed at the depot, run by management. The voting was as follows. For a ballot at the depot 4, against 1, abstention 1, members eligible to vote 6.

After which no other business come forward. The Chairman thanked all for attending and said finally that he will all the time he is living in Tunbridge Wells with the permission of all, attend Tunbridge Wells Branch meetings. All of which were pleased and made his comments welcomed.

Meeting ended at 12.30.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 21st August 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

The Chairman opend the meeting at 10.12 and welcomed all, in attendance were

Bros, F. Diplock, A. Herriett, R. Simpson, J. Carney & L. Stephenson

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting.

The Secretary then read the minutes of the July meeting after which comments were made on Assistant Branch Secretary not being valid as Bro. R. Simpson is a dual member. Bro. G. Ellard had been asked about being a Trustee and has excepted, after which Bro. A. Herriett moved and was seconded by Bro. F. Diplcok. That the July minutes be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then before moving on to next item brought to the members attention again. That the Branch Assistant position would have to be corrected, and Bro R. Simpson did have the position explained that a dual member cannot take up a officers position on the Branch. It was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That Bro. R. Simpson will not now be their Branch’s Branch Secretary’s Assistant because of his dual membership and the position explained to him. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars since last meeting. The Secretary then mentioned that as all circulars were requested to be reposted as from this meeting, he will leave the last 2-3 months circulars posted for men to check back on.

Comment were made as letter concerning R. Woodbridge, the Secretary was asked to write to Bro. Neil Milligan to check out the contents of that letter also to bring to his attention that Bro. Searl a member of ASLEF who worked during the strike would soon being going up for disciplinary.

The letter from Head Office over the proposed closure of Tunbridge Wells West. The Secretary again was asked to write to Bro. Neil Milligan to see if he had a copy of the T.U.C.C. report.

The Chairman then moved on to Health & safety report, this was given by the Secretary who mentioned that as it was only last meeting he was given the job, he had yet to get things moving but mentioned one new item that of the concrete path outside the men’s cubical toilets, where the concrete had flaked and left pot holes which was considered dangerous.

The Chairman then mentioned that there was meant to be a presentation to Bro. M. Allen, but as Bro. M. Allen was not in the room this was held over.

The Chairman then asked that the Secretary reports under Health & Safety, the large step down and the step up from units to the telephone on the outer home signal on the down road towards Birchden Junction. This the Secretary said he would take up.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report

Bro. A. Herriott then mentioned Flexible Roster, this had now been posted at the depot, it had been agreed by both sides and C.T.O. are in progress of bringing in the diagrams with the altered numbers. The members present said they understood they way the new roster was to work and agreed with it the question of changing over with other men was brought up and all the different ways and problems with that were discussed.

The timetables of next year’s train service was briefly described and Bro. F. Diplock mentioned what he had heard, after which the members present asked that the L.D.C. try and find out what is going to happen to our line and if they are proposing to close our line. This of course after the minster has given his decision. If he decides to allow the line to close, then the L.D.C. should aim at getting the depot as soon as possible to allow movement of men, if not then to get some idwa of a repairing plan for the out dated sleepers etc.

The Chairman then asked for any other business, as none come forward the meeting a then closed at 12.20

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 18th September 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Members in attendance were Bros F. Diplock, L. Stephenson, R. Simpson & J. Carney. 

Bro. M. Allen who was asked to attend as a guest.

In the absence of the Chairman Bro. F. Diplock did take the chair, upon a show of hands.

The Chairman welcomed all and mentioned a warm welcome to our old branch member Bro. M. Allen and opened the meeting at 10.28.

Before the Chairman asked the Secretary to read the minutes, he would like to make a presentation to our member who has left us to work at Seaford, and to thank him for all the work done on behalf of the men at Tunbridge Wells.

Bro. M. Allen excepted a pen set inscribed with many thanks from ASLEF Branch and the Chairman also presented Bro. M. Allen with a life membership of this Branch to allow him to attend any branch meetings s a member but without voting powers.

Bro. M. Allen expressed his appreciation for this presentation and wished to thank the members and was proud to be a life member of this branch.

The Chairman then moved on to the minutes after which the Chairman asked for matters arising from before the minutes were signed.

Question were asked about R. Woodbridge letters to Bro. Neil Milligan and other letters this the Secretary read out and informed the meeting that a copy of all correspondence had been sent to Bro. N. Milligan for his reference.

Question on collection of the depot were mentioned in respect for our late friend Bro. Len Forward of Tonbridge Branch. The Secretary mentioned that with all the work he has at the present time, he could not arrange the collection himself but would ask Bro. R. Brown to do a collection for him.

Question as Tonbridge men working over Tonbridge – Eridge line on Sundays when all depots concerning this line were informed that this depot is in dispute with management not allowing trains to operate over this line and Tunbridge Wells men working Sundays. The Secretary informed the meeting that all depots had received two letters informing them of our position, the last one was February  19th 1983, of which no reply was received and the Secretary does believe that Tonbridge was having trouble with the Branch, meeting sometimes 5-6 months gaps.

It was suggested that the Secretary write to Bro. D. Fullick and explain the situation.

The Chairman then asked for mover for the minutes it was then moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That the minutes of the August meeting be taken as a true record. Carried.

Circulars were then read, the numbers only being mentioned except for the one since last meeting as they have all reposted, the last one up to the meetings was mentioned in full.

On matters arising one voting paper was to hand that was to hand that of the Appeals Committee. It was mentioned that 4 letters had been received on the above subjected, after a short debate it was felt that Tunbridge Wells West vote should go in favour of Bro. D.J. Smith. This was moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Bro. D.J. Smith of Salisbury should get this branch’s favour in the coming election for Appeals Committee. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to correspondence and of correspondence. The Chairman then asked on matters arising if the Secretary would write to Head Office of Mr. Searl who worked during the strike while at Tonbridge and see if this man had paid his fine or joined another union.

The Chairman after no other matters arising on correspondence moved on to Health & Safety. The Secretary then mentioned that a letter had been sent to management of the 15th September stating outstanding items and if members do come across items that would be a danger to others would they let him have it in wrting. Bro. L. Stephenson complain over a ladder at East Grinstead, which had fallen across the track in the Bay Road. The Secretary asked for a copy of his report so as this may be taken up. Also mentioned was the door handles on units 1106 & 1306 had been changes from an angle to a vertical position so again drivers might catch their fingers in the door. The Secretary asked members to watch out for these doors and to report to him the unit numbers of each unit that is found to be like that.

The Secretary said he would be writing into management for his 3 monthly inspection if there was any item that the embers felt should be brought to managements attention would they again put it in writing.

That concluded the Health & Safety report.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report.

In absent of the L.D.C. Secretary, the Secretary of the Branch Bro. J. Carney then mentioned about Flexible Rosters and how they were to work and about changing over the men in attendance did ask questions which were answered in the absent of any paper work.

Bro. F. Diplock then mentioned that he had obtained copy of the 1984 timetable and had asked one of the L.D.C. members to pass it over to the Branch Secretary for photo coping and distribution to these bodies who would be interested in the, the Secretary did mention that to date he had not received them, but as soon as he does this will be done.

The Chairman then moved on to any other business. The members present asked about route learning over the New Cottage Junction at East Croydon.

The Branch Secretary then mentioned that to date only 8 members of this branch had gone up to East Croydon and he was worried that some of the remaining 30 men would not get a day training as there were only 2 weekends left between that meeting and October 3rd, the implantation date. Sunday training was mentioned. Men present did object as they did not like working Sundays due to management’s closure of the Sunday service on the Oxted to Uckfield and Tunbridge Wells West line. The Secretary agreed with the men present, but said that this day training was outside the area, we had said we were in dispute over as depot was then had and it was felt that in the short time left and that some members were going to enjoy 14 hours extra pay for Saturday training that on this occasion that the T.C.S. should try and get as many men up over the next two weeks as possible including Sundays.

Meeting then ended at 12.30.

The Chairman thanked all for attending

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 16th October 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

There being 4 members in attendance, they were Bros. L. Stephenson, R. Simpson, K. Knowles & J. Carney

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.20 and all were welcomed

The minutes of the September meeting was then read out after which was moved by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That the minutes of the September meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour

On matters arising from minutes, door handles on units 1107, 1314, 1116, 1105, 1106 & 1306 were now in a straight position and now as the units numbers had been given, the Secretary would now pass them over to the Health & Safety Representative.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary that on Flexible rostering, as these had been imposed on the depot in July 1982 and withdrawn by management on the same day after some 8 to 10 hours. That this branch should be back paid to then and not to the proposed January 1983. In the absent again of the L.D.C. Secretary, it was suggested that the Branch Secretary pursues this item to Sectional Council ‘B’.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars and correspondence since last meeting .

Long Service Awards

The Branch asked the Secretary if he would ask each member if they would attend the next branch meeting to have their award properly given to them but in the event of them declining the offer the Secretary to hand them their badge on behalf of the Branch.

The Secretary then gave an up to date account on Health & Safety. The Chairman then asked if the Secretary had received his letter over the ballast at Birchden Junction. The Secretary said this had now been taken up under the L.D.C. local minutes and a reply had been sent to him and as soon as the work has been carried and the Secretary would be writing to him again.

L.D.C. report, as the L.D.C. Secretary was absent, the men asked the Secretary to forward a stern complaint to Bro. A. Herriott and forward the following also

337 duty no preheat time, 328 duty attached at East Grinstead no preheat time and 332 duty should read 324 Saturday Only diagrams wrong.

Under any other business the member present asked that  Flexible Rosters be up dated, the diagrams be adjusted and the rosters shown and displayed at the depot.

The Secretary then asked members to note that the November meeting will be for nominations on all Branch Officers position and two L.D.C. members positions and would member please note that the Secretary who holds the post as

Trades Council, District Council, L.D.C. (Chairman), Branch Secretary, Health & Safety Rep., has felt that it is getting to much and will not be standing for some of these and at this time was not prepared to say which he would be standing for.

The Chairman then asked for any other business, as none come forward the meeting was closed at 12.10.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 20th November 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Members in attendance were Bros. F. Diplock, A. Herriett, K. Knowles & J. Carney

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman of the meeting and opened the meeting at 10.20 and welcomed all member present.

The Secretary then read the minutes after which the Secretary apologised for not informing the L.D.C. Secretary about duties 337, 328 & 332. Minutes were then proposed by Bro. F. Diplcok and seconded by Bro. A. Herriet. That the minutes of the October meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The secretary then gave a report on circulars and correspondence that have been received. On correspondence, the Secretary mentioned that the badges had received from Head office, the men concerned. He only saw one of and did not wish to have his badge given to him by the Branch. The Secretary mentioned he would get around to seeing the other two men as soon as possible.

The Chairman then moved on to Health & Safety

Items outstanding

Birchden Junction Outer Home Signal, Inspection of work place, to L.D.C Secretay over Tonbridge Coal Road, Cleaning tokens, inspection of Tonbridge up Hastings & Victoria, Safety Link 83 & Policy Statement.

The L.D.C. Secretary gave his report

Items that are being dealt with are

State of line – letter to Sectional Council ‘C’, the L.D.C. Secretary mentioned that the extra rest day in the 6 block will have to and will not be in the new workings, in the next 8 week period.

The Chairman wished to mention that the L.D.C. Secretary through the Branch had been nominated to go to a monthly course of which he was successfully in getting a place, yet he has not been and the Chairman wish to log that this Branch is annoyed that Bro. A. Herriett did not go or inform the Branch so another member could have gone.

The L.D.C. Secretary mentioned that he wished to go, but management had mentioned a course which was one week and preferred to go on that the Branch Secretary then mentioned that he should contact management to secured a place on the next course as it was no the Branch who could nominate him on that course.

The Chairman then brought up the two voting papers on the table, the first was on the Parliamentary Panel. The Secretary then mentioned that letter to date had been received from Birkenhead and after a short debate, Bro. F. Diplock proposed and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That A.E. Finnigan of Birkenhead gets Tunbridge Wells vote for the Parliamentary Panel. All in favour.

The second voting paper was for Appeal Panel and it was proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. K. Knowles. That Bro. D. Bush of Slade’s Green will get Tunbridge Wells vote for the Appeal Committee. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to nominations for L.D.C.

As there were two L.D.C. positions up for election the Chairman then drew to the members attention that Bro. J. Carney has indicated that he did not wish to stand for L.D.C. for the next two years. The Chairman then thanked Bro. J. Carney for the work that he had put in as an L.D.C. member over the last 4 years.

It was then moved that Bro. A. Herriott be put forward to coming on as L.D.C. member for another 2 years. By Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That Bro. A. Herriett be this Branch’s nominee for the L.D.C. 184/85. All in favour.

The vacancy that had now been left by Bro. J. Carney had been mentioned that Bro. L. Stephenson did wish to apply for the L.D.C. 1984/85 election. It was then proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriot. That Bro. Len Stephenson be this Branch’s nominee for the L.D.C. all in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to other officer of the Branch and positions held within.

On Trades Council delegate, Bro. J. Carney did mention his wish to step down from this post and the deputy Bro. K. Knowles had been to a meeting and it was felt that he should take over this position. It was then moved by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That he should be this Branch’s representative to the Trades Council. All in favour.

On the L.D.C. the Branch Secretary mentioned that before he started the Branch Secretary job, it was general practice that the Secretary be the Co-opted member of the L.D.C. if any member of the L.D.C. was unable to go to a meeting, this was so because the Branch Secretary was the member up to date will L.D.C. policy, as now that Bro. J. Carney has stepped down from the L.D.C. and as it was his intention to carry on as Branch secretary (subject to the Branch’s exceptions). This minutes should now be re-introduced. It was all agreed and the Chairman then moved. That in the event that a L.D.C. member cannot go to a meeting that the Co-opted member will be the Branch Secretary. All in favour. All in favour – adopted. 



BRANCH OFFICERS 1984
BRANCH CHAIRMAN. K. KNOWLES
ASS. CHAIRMAN. A. HERRIOTT
SECRETARY. J. CARNEY
ASS. SECRETARY.





This minutes should now be re-introduced. It was all agreed and the Chairman then moved. That in the event that a L.D.C. member cannot go to a meeting that the Co-opted member will be the Branch Secretary. All in favour. All in favour – adopted. 

This minutes should now be re-introduced. It was all agreed and the Chairman then moved. That in the event that a L.D.C. member cannot go to a meeting that the Co-opted member will be the Branch Secretary. All in favour. All in favour – adopted. 

The Chairman then moved on to Branch Officers after the Secretary mentioned the officers of 1983 with it’s alterations it was then moved by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That the following names against the position will be voted en block.

Life Member Bro. M. Allen

Chairman, Bro. K. Knowles, Secretary Bro. J. Carney, Vice Chairman Bro. A. Herriett, 

Assistant Secretary No one at Present time

Trustees & Auditors Bro. W. Baldwin & G. Ellard

Committee Members Bros. R. Luckhurst, F. Diplock, G. Ellard & R. Simpson

District Council Delegate Bro. J. Carney & Assistant Delegate Bro. A. Herriett.

L.D.C. Members Bros. A. Herriett, L. Stephenson, H. Marchant & R. Luckhurst. 

L.D.C. Co-opted member Branch Secretary.

Scruitineer Bro. F. Diplock, Trades Council Bro. K. Knowles.

After which the Chairman called for any other business of which none come forward and so the meeting was closed at 12.15

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 18th December 1983 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

Members in attendance were nine

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman who opened the meeting at 10.24 and welcomed all for attending and asked the Secretary to mention any apologies, the Secretary had received one apology that was from Bro. C. Exley.

The minutes of the November meeting were then read after which it was proposed by Bro. A. Herriet and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the minutes be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars since the last meeting 

The Chairman then asked if anyone was interested in the 1984 A.A.D. No one came forward.

The Chairman asked if any L.D.C. member wished to go on the T.U.C. Winter Course, again no one came forward.

The Chairman then asked if any members wished to go to National School and no one came forward and on T.U.C. Youth course and again no one wished to go.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to move on to correspondence between the Branch since the last meeting.

The T.U.C. voting paper was read and afterwards Bro. F. Diplock proposed the following which was seconded by Bro. W. Baldwin. That Tunbridge Wells do vote for Bro. Friend and Bro. Plaine for the T.U.C. All in favour.

The Chairman asked for anyone to propose a vote on the Parliamentary Panel, of which it was decided that as none of the men had informed the secretary of that members present asked that a no vote be taken.

The Secretary then mentioned that he had received a letter from Bro. C. Exley with a motion put forward with Bro. R. Coomber seconded it. This was a Rest Day Saturday men available to work and the letter that the L.D.C. had put up with a proviso that this Branch would alter or except what they decided.

After the letter had been read out with the motion, the members present felt that there should be some directive to the T.C.S. or list Clerk from this branch and we ask the L.D.C to abide by this Branch’s decision, after a short debate it was decided that a no vote would be taken on Bro. C. Exley motion. But a motion on the same subject be put forward from this Branch. It was then proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the man who is Rest Day Mon – Sat will work the turn nearest to his booking on time, the day previous. Unam.

The last item on correspondence was on Bro. R. Brown who had asked the Secretary to follow up the letter from Secretary to follow up the letter from Sectional Council by asking why he was paid back pay in week 30 that he informed the Secretary by phone that would be doing himself through management. The member present felt that Bro. Brown if he is doing a job temporary or permentally should get the pay on the day he went into that job, any increases after that date he would not get until he came back on to the footplate and the members felt that the Secretary should inform Bro. R. Brown.

That ended the correspondence

Health & Safety

The Secretary mentioned that this would be his last report as Heath and Safety as he no longer a L.D.C. member after this meeting he would be handed the job over to Bro. L. Stephenson shortly into the New Year.

Outstanding items were Birchden Junction, new items were handles on units, the walk about had now been done and it will be interesting to see if items listed will be done.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. Secretary

Bro. A. Herriett first mentioned the meeting they went to two days previous to the meeting, this was with Sectional Council ‘B’. They have told the L.D.C. that there is nothing on the depot closing and they hve said that would not know until the minister had made his decision.

On the electrifying of the Tonbridge to Hastings will be but not Tunbridge Wells to Eridge as the £24 million does not include that line.

If the minister decides that the line stays open the line would not be electrified.

Sectional Council did say that if the depot closes they would have to bring in displacement rule for the first time, because of the depot closing in May 1984, there would not be the vacancy but no one would be out of a job. They do say that when the minister has decided and if it is to close, B.R. would only take a few months to shut this depot. The L.D.C. reckon October 1984 at the earliest or May 1985.

The depot will not be able to freeze anymore vacancies as we can not cover.

Sectional Council through the L.D.C. have said they would willing come to one of our Branch meetings if it was the wish of the members.

Members in replied, said that when we get nearer to knowing more about our line we would ask them to attend to our meeting.

That concluded the L.D.C. report.

Bro. R. Collins asked if the Secretary could find out were his 1984 diary had got to, this the Secretary said he would write to Selhurst for.

Bro. H. love mentioned to the Secretary about him getting 50p a day the same as drivers do and the Secretary would like some guidance from the member to how he should go about this.

Bro. W. Baldwin mentioned that when he arrived at Tunbridge Wells he was Branch Secretary and that he did get Bro. Love London Allowance, but the amount would not increase and also mentioned that he had been told that other driver wages he would not be able to claim any other increases or pay awards to footplate men only and he had suggested that the Secretary to write Bro. Love, and onto him, this the Secretary said he would do.

The Chairman then moved on to the Branch accounts.

The Secretary mentioned that as to date the Branch had not sent the Branch the closing statement. The Secretary has not been able to complete his accounts, but hope that by the next meeting all receipts and statements would be completed.

After which the Chairman asked for any other business, as none come forward he closed the meeting at 12.20.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 15th January 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance was Bros. A. Herriett, L. Stephenson, K. Knowles & J. Carney

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.20 after welcoming all for attending the Branch, he did ask the Secretary if would read the minutes of the December meeting. After the minutes had been read the Secretary pointed out an error which also pointed out by the Chairman that was “The National Schools nomination to attend school was made by the Chairman, Bro. K. Knowles who wished to attend. This had been agreed by all those who attended that meeting” Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro L. Stephenson. That the minutes of the December meeting with amendments be taken as a true record. All it favour.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary about the Branch finance. The Secretary did mention that he has asked to see the Auditors after January’s meeting, but due to not having all the bank statements, but had informed Bros. W. Baldwin and G. Ellard the Auditors that as soon as this had been received and all forms completed this would be put into their hands.

On correspondence and circulars the Secretary mentioned that this time of the year not much is done with holidays in between but from the Branch.

The Chairman then moved on to Health & Safety and welcomed Bro. L. Stephenson as the depot’s new Health & Safety Officer. Bro. L. Stephenson first mentioned that at the present time the Health & Safety books and files where in the middle of being transferred from Bro. J. Carney to himself and since January 1st 1984 when he took over as Health & Safety Officer for Tunbridge Wells. He had been approached by member on one subject only, that was falling tiles off the roof next to the Foreman’s office and where men park their bikes, this he said was also being taken up by the L.D.C. and hope to have the roof made safe from lose tiles. Bro. J. Carney then mentioned that he was in the middle of transferring all the paper work over to Bro. L. Stephenson and said that the transfer should be completed within a week.

The Chairman then moved on to L.D.C. report. No letters had been sent by the L.D.C. since the last meeting. One matter that has arisen is Flexible Rostering, some men had complained over long weekends, they were not getting the same as other men because of their position on the roster. The L.D.C. have stated to look at a way of men working down the roster not like the one which is worked now. Some discussion took place on this, which had left the L.D.C. with some ideas to think on. Bro. A. Herriett did mentioned that the May workings were again to be defined as management change the train timetable so the L.D.C. would not think that any changes to the roster at this time was a good one.

The Chairman then moved on to any other business.

Bro. K. Knowles did mention to the Secretary that he had been checking through the rule book (A.S.L.E.F.) and found that as rule 40, his interpretation was that the Secretary should bring to the Branch quarterly returns that is sent by Head Office to this Branch be in and the Secretary did mention that the quarterly returns he mentions is a form sent to all branches showing what their membership is i.e. Tunbridge Wells 39 drivers, no Juniors. Then it shows a printed page of item brought and items outstanding which is always left empty, but the Chairman is corrected, rule 40 does mention that this should be brought to Branch meetings and will be suitable held in a folder for members to see at Branch meeting.

Bro. L. Stephenson also asked the Branch if the Secretary could take up a claim on his behalf through Sectional Council. This was about a day he was booked off with pay when he should have been rest day and work was not fully covered at the depot. It was then proposed by the Chairman Bro. K. Knowles and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That the Secretary be instructed to send the required letters to Sectional Council with a view of getting Bro. L. Stephenson claim metl in full. All in favour.

After which no other business came forward, the Chairman then closed the meeting at 11.20.  

Tunbridge Wells Special Meeting

Sunday 12th February 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

This meeting was requested by the L.D.C. over trains running down to Uckfield from Oxted on Sundays.

Attending meeting were Bros Simpson, Pepper, Exley, Marchant, Coomber, Taylor, Harris, MacDonald, Carney Knowles, Ashdown, Neal & Baldwin

Also attended was Bro. M. Allen

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.15 and welcomed all and thanked them all for attending, he then asked the L.D.C. Secretary to address the meeting.

Bro. A. Herriet did then mentioned that the L.D.C. had been to seen management, Mr. Cole, who did inform the L.D.C. that the paper train for Eastbourne was to be diverted down to Oakfield for seven Sundays and due to engineers works, it had been asked could this train go any other routes. Management did mention that the paper traffic was worth over £¾  million pounds over the year and they were worried about losing this traffic. The L.D.C. then was asked about various items about trains. It was also mentioned that the minutes 75/80 & 6/81 did mention Industrial Action would take place if any trains run between Hurst Green and Oakfield and Tunbridge Wells West and Eridge, as this had now been done. The members were here to discuss and decide it was then asked that the Secretary did read the two minutes for a vote to be taken, after the Secretary had read the minutes Bro. C. Exley asked that all votes be recorded all were in favour.

Minute 75/80

That on every occasion until further notice that other depots are rostered work on Sundays south of Oxted on the Uckfield line, and this depot is not given equal share of the work above Oxted. Industrial Action will be taken by this branch. 

Minute 6/81

That if we at this depot are to lose our Sunday work then we do not entertain any special openings on Sundays for fueling of engines or stock working. We further will not any longer do any train work on Bank or Public Holidays or undertake to do any loan work. All the above are not to clash with any motion for action from the traffic grades.” 

Bro. C. Exley then went on to move. That the minutes 75.80 and 6/81 be rescinded. Seconded by Bro. H. marchant. But before a vote could take place amendments did come forward by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. A. Herriett. That each minute be voted on separately as both do not mean the same.

The amendment was then voted on. For 8, against, 0 abstantion 0 & members not voting 5. Amendment carried

The Chairman then asked members to vote on 75/80 first. That is to rescind minute 75/80. For 8, against 3, abstention 1 & member not voting 1. Motion carried.

The Chairman then asked member to vote on minute 6/81. That is to rescind minute 6/81. For 1, against 11, abstention 0 & member not voting 1. Motion carried.

Then a debate was had to decide if any Industrial action should be taken as management had ran a train when minute 75/80 was enforce. It was then proposed by Bro. P. Pepper and seconded by Bro. S. Harris. That no passenger train or passenger stock to run down the Uckfield line unless we get an option to work those trains (minute 7/84).

 For 6, against 2, abstention 1 & member not voting 4. Carried.

It was at this time that Bro. A. Ashdown did leave the meeting, leaving 13 members present.

Bro. W. Baldwin did ask if the members would vote on the issue, do we have some sort of Industrial Action. Bro. W. Baldwin proposed and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That can the members vote to strike for one day in support of minute 75/80. This to be a one off and that no other Industrial Action take place unless minute 7/84 is broken.

For  5, against 6, abstention 1 & members not voting 0. Motion lost.

That then concluded the special meeting with Bro. P. Pepper prosing and seconded by Bro. MacDonald. That we send a letter of thanks to all the depots who have supported us in the past.

For 12, against 0, abstention 0 & members not voting 0

Chairman then closed the meeting at 12.10.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 19th February 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were Bro. K. Knowles, R. Simpson, L. Stephenson & J. Carney

The Secretary did receive one apology that was from Bro. A. Herriett.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.15 and the minutes of the January meeting was then read after which Bro. L. Stephenson proposed and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That the minutes of the January meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the Special Meeting held on Sunday 12th February  1984. It was then after the minutes being read that Bro. R. Simpson proposed and seconded by Bro. j. Carney. That the minutes of the Special Meting held on Sunday 12th February be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Secretary was then asked to read to out correspondence and circulars.

It was then mentioned that Circular No. 4/84 (R.S.N.T. 83 Irregular and unsocial hours payment) has brought a new light as Bros. H. love and R. brown claim over V.R.P. payment and would the Secretary write to Head Office to see if a claim should be progress now with this new information.

On Health & Safety did mention that the roof over the bike shed is now complete. Selsdon signal was brought to his attention. Hazard walkways now ok.

Two other complaints

Up Hastings Branch was now being investigated and outer home Birchden will have to be progressed through L.D.C. as it is now minute by the L.D.C.

That concluded Health & Safety.

The Chairman asked Bro. L. Stephenson if he could give a L.D.C. report in the absence of the Secretary.

Briefly he went through the meeting held with Mr. Cole on Monday 13th February 1984. L.D.C. hve asked for a meeting over the Foreman between 04.00 – 05.00 Monday mornings, mention was given over meeting with management at Beckham. Tunbridge Wells to lose 2-3 duties, a list has been  put up in L.D.C. case. 27th March had ben given the date of the pre-scrutiny were the Chairman and Secretary will attend. Bro. L. Stephenson did mention that management had suggested some 12 car formation trains in new workings, it was then that the Chairman proposed and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the L.D.C. be informed and the management be told that the men of this branch will not work 12 car stock because of no walk ways for changing ends, also no station to except that amount of stock unless it is an emergencies. All in favours.

Chairman then moved on to any other business.

The following Bros. asked the Secretary of a copy of the Conditions of Service book from Head Office. Bros. L. Stephenson, K. Knowles & R. Simpson.

The Secretary then moved on to finance and mentioned that the Branch had, had a busy year were money had gone into the account and had been used again. The Secretary mentioned opening new accounts because of Mr. Tebit law. This was in the process of being done. It was now the Auditor who were to be sort after as these were now getting behind with these returns to Head office. That concluded the accounts.

The Chairman then closed the meeting at 11.50

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 18th March 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Tunbridge Wells West Loco

This was because of difficulties of getting into the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 

Bros. W. Overden, R. Coomber, C. Taylor, H. Love, F. Diplock, A. Herriet, K. Knowles & J. Carney.

Guest was Bro. W. Eames Sectional Council Chairman

The Chairman opened the meeting and welcomed all for attending and apologies for the change of venue at such short notice.

The Secretary then mentioned that two drivers has sent their apologies to the meeting, they were Bros. R. Simpson & R. MacDonald.

The minutes of the February meeting was then read after which Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That the minutes of the February branch meeting held on 19th February 1984 be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Secretary moved on to circulars & correspondence.

The voting papers had been received one being held over from last meeting that of the Assistant General Secretary and the later one of A.A.D. 40 voting.

First the election of Assistant General Secretary after a short debate it was felt that our vote should go to the following. Proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. C. Taylor. That the vote for Assistnat General Secretary, that the Tunbrdge Wells members do vote in favour of Bro. Kirton of Thornaby. All in favour.

The other voting paper was for A.A.D. District Delegate No. 40. Two member had been nominated Bros. M. Allen Eastbourne and A. Ricketts Brighton No.2. The secretary did then mention that he had received a phone call from Bro. M. Allen mentioning that he was unable to stand and would we not vote for him, as Three Bridges had nominated him without his knowledge and due to house moving not yet completed so unable to go and represent the members. With that knowledge the members did then propose by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded by Bro. R. Collins. That Tunbridge Wells do vote for Bro. A. Ricketts in the election for Group 40 A.A.D. delegate. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved onto L.D.C. report.

Bro. A. Herriett L.D.C. Secretary did start his report by saying that they have asked management to look into early morning cover when the Foreman had not himself arrived, the hours being 04.00 to 05.00 Monday only. Also Bro. D. Nye had reported to the L.D.C. that a duty he had been asked to work did not arrive in time to be scrutinised by a L.D.C. member, so this was being looked into.

A meeting had been asked, but management asked for more items to be listed, so as to be dealt with at our meeting.

Paper trains running on Sundays between Hurst Green and Uckfield. Management said they would inform us of any other movement down that line involving engines.

The L.D.C. did ask that any members who finds that his duty has been altered in any way and find that it has not been scrutinised by this L.D.C. They are not to work the alteration but the original duty.

On the subject of 12 cars stock being worked by Tunbridge Wells West men from Tunbridge Wells to East Grinstead using two drivers. It was felt that the commented of our Sectional Council member Bro. W. Eames (who just arrived.) Bro. Eames did say that management had tried to bring 12 car stock at Slade’s Green to Dartford and back then into sidings. This was then stopped by Sectional Council and if this depot is trying to be pushed into having 12 car referring it back to Bro. R. Lifford.

It was at this moment the Chairman thanked the L.D.C. Secretary for his report and excepted a motion of suspending Standing Orders from Bro. R. Coomber and seconded by Bro. F. Diplock. That Standing Orders be suspended for the rest of this meeting so as to give our Sectional Council member Bro. W. Eames and member time to talk. All in favour (time 11.28).  

Bro. W. Eames thanked all for inviting him to this Branch and hoped that what he had to say was of some help to all.

The closure of Sevenoaks and Margate is set for April 16th 1984. The men there have all been accommodated but leave very little for even these men, work at other depots which got vacancy, the most of the Sevenoaks men will go to Orpington with the option of a 14(a) move if logged within 28 days.

When Coulsdon and West Croydon shut men move to go for the list which in turn left Selhurst with a lot of unfilled vacancies. Management did allow two men, one from each depot to take early retirement with around £10 to £12,000 which is not much when you see management leaving £47,000. Train Crews were leaving on a shoe string.

The exact number of men involved on April 16th is 33 men, 24 have got jobs, 15 men have to not got any identifiable work so vacancy No.3 sheet will be held so as to allow men to take up vacancy if no jobs has been allocated or chosen by these men by vacancy No. 4. They will have to take the P.T.R.A. arrangement with a view of getting rid of the junior man on the regional or whole of B.R. Area.

On the May workings, management are cutting down the amount of men in the Motive Power – Train Crews. If men are surplus at their depots in May, they will be left spare for up to one year and when the minister has given his decision weather to keep the line open or to close it is Sectional Council plan that this depot will close as soon as the re-berthing arrangements have been made. At the last establishment meeting it was the view of the Tunbridge Wells L.D.C. that if management wanted to reduce the establishment down to 40 that L.D.C./S.C were thinking of the future that go for 36 men with 4 taking early retirement. Management in reply wanted 38 men but no spare men at this time Tunbridge Wells West have two starred vacancies pending a feasibility project. Sectional Council had said Bro. W. Eames blown his top because they found that management had been to a meeting over this before pre-scrutiny which the outcome had been deferred to higher management, but of which this management were trying to implement. It is known that higher management think very different from lower management who always think the opposite of higher management. The establishment meeting has now been arranged and Sectional Council would like to suggest to the members and the L.D.C. that management are willing to go above the lines of keeping the members at 38 but worked by 36 men allowing 2 turns to be starred as they are now but only allowing two men to be surplus

Establishment Staff Side Running turns 25, Rest Day Relief 5, Spare 3 & Annual Leave 3 = 36 drivers.

Management Side Running turns 25, Rest Day Relief 6, Spare 3 & Annual Leave 4 = 38 drivers. 

The Senior men are as follows

1 Bro. Doplock

2 Mr. Plummer

3 Bro. Bridger

4 Bro. Ashdown

5 Bro. Asprey

Bro. W. Eames did mention that the L.D.C. with Council had got a meeting to go to over establishment at Tunbridge Wells West it would be wise to give the L.D.C. an indication of what to except, bearing in mind that if you go for a fail to agree, Bro. F. Diplock could be made redundant on ill health grounds and his vacancy advertised (L.D.C. had tried to get 36 me with actual 34 men covering work) and management will still introduce 38 men advertising all other vacancy.

It was then discussed lightly and all agreed to ask the L.D.C. to seek the best formula they can and go for 38 men worked by 36 members as suggested by our Sectional Council member. Proposed by Bro. F. Diplock and seconded Bro. W. Oveden.

Bro. W. Eames then moved on to the discussion on the Eridge – Grove Junction closure, as to date no decision has been made, but he said that even if the decision went against B.R., B.R. would still fight for the depot to be moved.

It has been heard by Council that if stock was to go to Selhurst, men could be booked on at London Bridge or New Cross Gate.

A question was asked on what age did management have to go down to for redundancies. Men down to 62 management response to men on P.T.R.A. if under 62. Men have to apply, this is because normally it is not worth the men taking early retirement under 62.

A question was asked on what would happen to depot if minister was not to give go a head to close line.

If line was not to close, Council thinks that the depot would not close because if the empties stock working involved, until that is had have another berthing and fuelling place for them to go to Selhurst not being able to take them yet.

The Chairman then brought the meeting to a close by asking the members to show a vote of thanks. All were in favour.

The meeting was then closed at 12.35

Tunbridge Wells Meeting 

Sunday 15th April 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

in attendance were Bros. B. Harris, H. Marchant, R. MacDonald, L. Stephenson, I Bond, K. Knowles, A. Herriett & J. Carney

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman for that meeting. The Chairman welcomed all and made special note to Bro. I. Bond’s first attendance to this Branch and thanked him for coming all the way from London by car to this meeting. The meeting was then opened at 10.07.

The Chairman then asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting, which was March’s normal meeting. The minutes were adopted by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That the minutes be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars and correspondence.

The Secretary then asked the members present if he could purchase 2 clips to be used with the clips at the depot for posting notices at the depot as 3 clips were getting very full. = It was then proposed by Bro R. MacDonald and seconded by Bro. A. herriett. That the Secretary be allowed to purchase 2 clips for the use of brand notices. All in favour.

The secretary had received a voting paper for Assistant General Secretary second ballot. The Secretary did mentioned that no member who we voted for had unfortunately got into the seconded ballot and the two members standing were Bros. Milligan and Ronksley. After a short debate it wasp proposed. That Bro. Milligan would get this branch’s vote in favour of Assistant General Secretary’s position. All in favour. Proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. R. MacDonald.

The Chairman then moved on to Health & safety which Bro. L. Stephenson mentioned that not much had been reported to him since last meeting  but did mention that he was to start on his 10 week one day release course on Health & Safety.

The L.D.C. report was then next

On establishment  this was

Running 25 duties, Rest Day Relief 6, Holiday relief 4 and spares 3 = 8 men.

Redundancy on two men at the depot was still awaiting their redundancy figures.

12 car formation of trains are still with us with conductors in and out of Selhurst. On the question of 12 car trains, the L.D.C. had objected to management, but management gave the L.D.C.  one choice work them or the work would go to Norwood depot the Branch Secretary asked the L.D.C. are they progressing through to Sectional Council level. The reply was they were told that Sectional Council did not object when this was mention to them by management. The Secretary then asked the members if the Branch should to Council. The L.D.C. Secretary did mention that it was their view that going to Council they could loose the duties which is not what the L.D.C. wanted. It was suggested that the L.D.C. had excepted 12 Car trains on the assumption that work would disappear from this depot.

The L.D.C. did ask the Secretary if he would write to Head office over shortage of pay when working to hours carrying out L.D.C. meetings, but only being paid roster hours pay. D.I.C. Brighton being the ones who say that is all they are allowed to except.

On any other business Bro. I. bond asked about the depot could have a strike badge after a short debate on how many we should make. It was decided that Bros. Bond and MacDonald should make some designs for the next Branch meeting and the Secretary will post a list up to see how many badges each man wants. 

The secretary then brought to the Branch’s attention that while being Co-opted as a L.D.C. member on several occasions he had seen one L.D.C. member arriving at a meeting before the other three had arrived and seeing management before the meeting. The Secretary mentioned that while there may be nothing in or between this private meeting, he had mentioned to be L.D.C. Secretary on at least one occasion that this could be seen as the L.D.C. split and suggested that on meeting take the opportunity of settling any last minute decision go into the meeting as one force.

The L.D.C. Secretary did mention in reply that the L.D.C. member involve, that it was his opinion that if the member concern was not having is own meeting as suggested and that it is not other persons business who he talks to before or after a L.D.C. meeting.

The Secretary did finish the subject by saying he was not criticising a person on the L.D.C. but the position he holds while going to L.D.C. meetings.  

Other members expressed their views on what they heard. 

The Secretary then asked the L.D.C. if the L.D.C. Stamp had worn out or damaged if o a replacement would have be ordered as this stamp made to let the members know that a official member has scrutinised the workings. The L.D.C. Secretary mentioned the stamp was ok and noted.

The member requested that this stamp is to be used a request from the L.D.C. Secretary for note books and money boxes. The Chairman then asked the Secretary to order same from Head Office.

The Chairman then mentioned that he was in receipt of some leaflets from the Post Office of telephone privatisation, these were to be distributed.

The Secretary mentioned that at the last District Council, they did have the President of the Betshanger Mineworkers and he did give a talk on the reasons behind the strike. A collection was made fort his train fare of which the Secretary did give a £1.00 and the Secretary did ask if his money could be taken as a donation from the Branch. It was then moved by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That the £1.00 the Secretary did pay towards the Kent Mineworkers President for his train fare, be reinburst to the Secretary and be taken as a donation from this branch. All in favour. All in favour.

That concluded the business and the Chairman closed the meeting at 12.30.

 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 20th May 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 

Bros. R. Harris, P. Elston, L. Stephenson, I. Bond, H. Love, R. Simpson, R. MacDonald, K. Knowles & J. Carney.

The Chairman for that meeting was Bro. K. Knowles, the only apologies was from Bro. A. Herriett.

The Chairman opened the meeting at 10.20 by welcoming all for attending and the Secretary was asked to read the minutes of the April meeting after which no comments were made and it was proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. Harris. That the minutes of the April meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars and correspondence since the last meeting.

On matters arising from the circulars, it was felt by the members present that a letter should be sent to the E.C. and Railway Federation with reference to Circulars 95 & 99/1984 (rates of pay). After which some lengthy debate, it was moved by Bro. R. MacDonald and seconded by Bro. R. Harris.

That with reference to circulars 95/1984 & 99/1984, we at this branch object to other depots working Sundays as we do not work Sundays because the depot is close on that day, also we feel this overtime, rostered or not. So this Branch wishes to inform the E.C. of ASLEF and the Council of the Railway Federation that this depot will work rest days if any other crews work Sundays of any kind. But we will refuse any other depot work and overtime on week days duties including specials. Passed unam.

It was requested that a copy be put up on the ASLEF notice board, one to the L.D.C. Secretary, one to Sectional council and Railway Federation.

It was also asked that on the notice board copy an explanation note be included that overtime is to be banned, that exceptions is ment by late running of train and cancelation of trains plus any emergencies. This was proposed by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. R. Harris.

With reference to N.U.R. (Tonbridge) letter this was brought to the attention of the members. That as the union were holding Railway Federation, that this be encourage locally. So we can keep in touch with our respective unions. The members felt this was a good idea and suggest we nominate two members delegate to go to these meetings on the Branch’s behalf. It was proposed. That Bros. J. Carney and H. MacDonald to be this Branch’s delegates toattend meetings when possible. Proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. P. Elston.

The Secretary mentioned that the Trade Council dues were due again and as the last quarterly returns show 39 members. This is what we should inform the Trades Council. This was agreed and then proposed by Bro. Eston and seconded by Bro. R. Harris. That the Secretary be instructed to pay the Trades Council the amount required for this branch to maintain as a member. All in favour.

Bro. Harry Love brought up the subject of Bro. F. Diplock who has unfortunallyy been off sick for sometime and now is  one of the members who will be made redundant from our Branch. A collection has been made and Bro. Love asked if the Secretary could have it ready by Thursday as he knows it was the day Bro. F. Diplock would be attending the loco.

Bro. Love then went on to Bro. D. Ward who aas a member of the Branch for some time until he went to Sevenoaks. It was with regret that our old friend has since passed away after a illness of some months. It was hoped that as many members of the Branch could attend his funeral which was held on Thursday 24th May. A collection is being held with the money going to Cancer Research or Cancer Relief.

The Chairman then moved on to Health & Safety.

Bro. L. Stephenson reply only one item outstanding during this month that of Ashurst Junction.

L.D.C. business

Bro. L. Stephenson said there had not been any meetings since last meeting so all other matters were held over to next meeting.

A question was asked on the 50p per week levy and members felt a bit reluctant in being told to pay 50p x 4 = £2, when ASLEF E.C. had committed themselves to £15,000. That we all monies collected times 22,000 driver = £44,000. Could the Secretary write to Head Office for clearance on this. This was agreed by all at the meeting.

The Chairman then moved over to the floor to discuss the subject of badges. Bro. I. Bond had brought with him some designs based on a shield type badge with a picture of the old clock tower in the centre. 

It was discussed how many we should get. The Secretary had phoned up the firm who advertised in the Locomotive Journal. April 1984 and the prices he had got to show that by only getting say 50 done. It would work out around £4.50 each where as 400 would be lass than a £1 each. It was there voted on weather we should ave two badge. This was put to the floor by the Chairman. That this depot have two badges made of only 50 in number made the other of 400 in number. For 7, against 0 and abstention 1 = 8 members all voted.

The first badge of 50 in number will be of shield type as submitted by Bro. I. Bond with the colours yellow, blue and red.

The second badge of 400 in number will be of the shield type as submitted by Bro. I. Bond with the colour yellow, blue and red but the red and blue will be reversed in the second badge. The amount will be worked out and the charge to other than Tunbridge Wells drivers will be higher, the profits going to branch funds.

A vote of thanks was given to Bro. I. Bond and the Secretary instructed to write to Bro. I. Bond with a letter of thanks. All in favour.

On the question of how we are going to pay for them it was suggested that we as for the money first and they order the badges from say from each member then they will be reimburst when the final figure has been sorted our.

The Chairman then brought the meeting to a close at 12.40

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 16th June 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 

Bros. R. Collins, R. Simpson, L. Stephenson, I. Bond, A Herriett, K. Knowles & J. Carney.

The Chairman for the meeting was Bro. K. Knowles

The Chairman welcomed all and opened the meeting at 10.15

The minutes were then read by the Secretary and it was proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That the minutes of the May meeting be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Secretary then moved on to circulars and correspondence since last meeting.

The Secretary did have two voting papers before the members. The first was on Sectional Council and it was proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That this Branch does vote in favour of Bro. B. Noakes in the forthcoming election for Sectional Council. All in favour.

The seconded was for Appeals Committee, it was proposed by Bro. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. R. Collins. That this branch does place its vote in favour of Bro. D. Bush for the Appeals Committee. All in favour.

The chairman then moved on to the badges being made by this Branch.  The Secretary had received from Marks of Distinction a quote which inform us that each badge would cost £1.10 and the Secretary informed the members present that he had sent to Marks of Distinction a cheque £80.50 as a deposit for work to be done. Money coming into the Branch was over £20.00 to date and the Chairman asked that if members wishing to order would they pay in advance so we the Branch would have the other £313.00 when the badges were done (not including P/P).  

As time was getting on the Chairman moved on to Health & Safety report from Bro. L. Stephenson. They were Tunbridge Wells West Yard, road to sidings proposed 10 m.p.h. speed limit, toilets in fitters area, lighting in yard, asbestos in depot & ceiling in mess room flaking.

On the question of the Health & Safety walk about he did ask for anything to be put as his walkabout was the following week to this Branch meeting. The Secretary said white lines Hurst Green to 12 car mark, lack of paper towels East Grinstead..

The Chairman moved to L.D.C. report and they were

Meeting for P.A.’s, letters to management over 304 duty, Birchden Junction signal, lack of light, mess room and availability of men to work Sundays

This the members asked the L.D.C. to report back to the branch when any more info available on any other business on L.D.C.

It was mentioned that it was seen that certain members of the depot were being favoured to work Victoria duties. After a short debate it was proposed by Bro. R. Collins and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That the Secretary instructed to write ti the L.D.C. Secretary over men being favoured to work Victoria turns. We as this branch wish to have it opened  to everyone with the option of saying yes or no. all in favour.

It was then also mentioned that L.D.C. men where being covered to work a turn of duty after being released from duty to carry out L574 on Thursdays. It was felt that day not to except additional work. It was then proposed by Bro. R. Collins and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That this branch instructs it’s L.D.C. members to decline track work on Thursdays when released to do L574. Voting was as follows. For 4, against 0 & abstention 2. Motion carried.

On District Council, the Secretary informed members that the next meeting of the District Council was Monday 25th June 1984, and did anyone wish anything to brought be brought up. One item did come, that was, why has one of the three vacancies been withdrawn without the consent of the L.D.C. in the way of consultation under the machinery and what do Sectional Council know of  this. 

After which no other business came forward and the meeting was closed at 12.10.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 15th July 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were Bros. R. Simpson, I. Bond, R. Harris, H. Marchant, K. Knowles & J. Carney

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman for that meeting

The Chairman thanked everyone for attending and opened the meeting at 10.07 a.m.

The minutes of the June meeting was then reads and one question on the minutes. Bro. R. Harris mentioned that with reference to Sunday work at Tunbridge Wells West and men working away from depot, he had heard the T.C.S. turn work away from the depot because he did not have a list of who of the membership should have the work. It was asked that when the L.D.C. member gave his report that this be brought up. After which it was proposed by Bro. R. Harris and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That the minutes of the June meeting be taken as a true record. Unam.

Circulars and correspondence were then read.

The Chairman wish to bring several items to the members attention and they wee.

Firstly the last two for nomination for District Secretary. The Secretary informed he members present that Bro. D. Fullick had been in contact with him over this position and reminded members that he had in the past come to this Branch on several occasions to give up to the minutes info on Head Office action. The Chairman made it known that he would like to see this Branch uses its vote on the nomination form if front of this branch. It was then proposed by Bro. H. Marchant and seconded by Bro. by Bro. J. Carney. That this branch nominates Bro. D. Fullick for District Secretary for District No.1 in the forthcoming election. Unam.

The chairman then asked the Secretary to write to the L.D.C. Secretary in his absence from the meeting over Bro. S. Dunnings letter as this is an L.D.C. item and not a Branch’s.

The Chairman asked the Secretary to read the voting paper for the Parliamentary Panel, after which no member present put a proposal forward it was put on file.

On Bro. H. love closing to be Branch collection at the depot, it was indeed the action of the Secretary in the letter that was sent to Bro. H. Love

On Orpington branch asking for any member wishing to help the miners to purchase a special badge. Bro. Harris asked for the Secretary to er him 5 and he would pay shortly £10.00.

The Branch statements had again been returned this time to head Office. Secretary explain was now that the accounts were correct, they wish a new form completed, this again the Secretary was again chasing, the members present for their signatures.

Long Service Awards badges the two members concerned did not wish to have their badge given to them by the Branch, but the Branch wished them congratulations for the 10 years loyalties to the union.

The Chairman then called on the Secretary to give a report on the District Council meeting he attended.

The Secretary mentioned that District Council is set up so that a delegate from each Branch can get together to keep in contact with matters arising from Branches also to hear from Sectional Council, District Secretary and the Executive Committee Delegate, to what is affecting our District, which is No.1 and was No.4 until the re-organision in 1983. The meeting starts with a roll call and the circulars received from the Labour Party, T.U.C. etc. Then the minutes of the last meeting and matters arising very similar to how we run our Branch, except that there iis three main speakers, each time and we atre open to question their decision or guide them.

The E.C. President spoke first, who informed us that he would be seeking election for District Secretary, but went on to say that all branches should have the circular on bifocal glasses, these now can be obtained free when going to your next medical, inform the Medical Officer and they will now provide.

Bro. Fullick went on to circulars,

new contribution rate = 1% = £1.20,

visits to Germany, Scotland only must be under 30, all expenses paid.

Appeals tribunal - this is being dealt with under the Machinery of Negotiation

Days’ leave to get married can be backdated.

Affiliation to C.N.D. – this was adopted at 1984 A.A.D.

Stress and strain – political study was in favour of the drivers

Easement of one man trains – aprox savings on men, it is estimated that 1,930 footplate men would go, 390 P.N. Breaks of those left would be done away with.

B.R. management wanted an aggrated driving time of 8 hours actual driving, management want roster with this.

Trainmen Concept – still outstanding

Remote controls of loco traction unit – driver works engine to site, P.W. plug in a remote control unit and controls train by walking beside it, thus no driver required

On Train Crew rostering, management would have to do away with the power of the L.D.C. allagation computers to do work and knowledge of who is sitting spare and where if a job come up.

On Tolpuddle march, the Head Office asked every member to support this, but the local police have said only 6 members to each banner, all others cannot join the march, so we call for all banners, whose members are not using them to let Head Office know.

Miners Strike, 50p levy, 50% in already, just briefly asked on what will happen to those members who have not paid and those who are volunteering to pay, say a £1.00 a week to the soup kitchen but not to the Head Office. Bro. Fullick asked for these names to be put forward to the E.C. The 50p a week was a good house keeping exercise because of the demands made on the Society in the past few months, N.G.A., C.G.H.Q. and the miners.

On miners most effected it is not the miners down this way who are feeling the pinch so much but the Midlands Area another thing the Head Office is doing that any driver sent home because of refusing to cross a picket line, his days wages is being paid by the inion. District Secretaries in these areas are being authorised to make payment to cut down time and red tape. Depot who are affected are these depots who work is mainly to with the coal as management cannot give them another job.

A.A.D. excepted the above, once explained to them.

On Charing Cross men withdrawing their labour in support was because of police tactics in chasing miners over main lines to catch them turning buses around because miners travelling on them. The miners crime trying to attend a rally.

On soup kitchens these are being operated by the miner’s wives themselves and every penny sent is going to the soup kitchens. Typical meal for women and children is spuds, peas and gravy Monday to Saturday. Spuds, peas and half a meat pie Sundays.

D.H.S.S. holding back payment, some miner’s wives yet received any money. It was this that prompted members attending District Council for each member to donate £5.00 each, totalled £155.00 was collected, which all helps.

It was mentioned that if  money were to be sent and it was for the Soup Kitchen, the Branch Secretaries should write to either

Notts. N.U.M. Area, Miners Offices, Berry’s Hill Lane, Notts

Yorkshire N.U.M. Yorkshire Area, Miners Offices, Barnsley

If you wish the money to go to the men on picket duty or to help with travelling fund. Then write to Sheffield Area N.U.M.

If you wish to send money to Bettshanger who will then send it on to the pits who need it the most. Bettshanger while on strike are not so bad off as those up north.

That concluded the E.C. report, the Sectional Council Secretary then gave a report on

Two tier management, working party groups, refreshing stock,

Effingham Junction closure 1985,

St. Leonards & Ore two points, 1, keep Ore open, 2, put all to Hastings as one staffing point.

Reaction of Redhill having some of the Gatwicks – management still looking.

The Organising Secretary, Bro. N. Milligan mentioned official that he had got the Assistant General Secretary’s job and asked to support Bro. D. Fullick to get his job as he believed their were only two horses in the race, Bro. D. Fullick and a London Transport chappie, as time was short Bro. Milligan thanked all for supporting him.

Next meeting is to be October 28th, 1984. That concluded the District Council Delegates report.

On L.D.C. report in absent of the Secretary, the Chairman asked Bro. H. Marchant for a report, they were

Sundays when require, lights in car park (pending closure of depot), men to carry out work on car park down to lobby, lobby to be painted by men being booked spare.

Bro. Marchant brought up under any other L.D.C. business which say. That this Branch instructs it L.D.C. members to decline track work on Thursdays when released to do L574.

It was mentioned that it was on only a very few occasions that this was done and then because of no other men being available either on overtime or as a rest day, and not to see the work go to another depot, it was proposed by Bro. Marchant that an amendment. That the word  “except in an emergencies be put after L574.” This was seconded by Bro. J. Carney and all in favour. All agreed.

On Sundays the Branch said it would hope that a fair system could be adopted so as no favouritism would be success. After a short debate it was suggested that the L.D.C. furnish the Branch Secretary for his file the names of members who wish to work these go and when required Sundays and further the Secretary be instructed to write to each L.D.C. member with suggestions for this Branch. That is members wishing to be available to work Sundays other than those who have already put their name on the L.D.C. list. They shuld put a letter into the L.D.C. by 9 a.m. on a Thursday for the L574 man to compile a list for him to give to the T.C.S.

Any member on their list and find they do not wish to a particular Sunday, these must also put a letter into the L.D.C. by 9 a.m. on the Thursday before the Sunday.

The Branch did not want to minute this but hope the L.D.C. would take the suggestion when deciding which path they were going to take.

On any other business, the Secretary, Bro. J. Carney, asked if he could list the minutes the 39 members who are entitled to the special badge being made as some confusion was around to who may or may not be entitled to them

Proposed by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That the following 39 drivers second by Bro. I. Bond. That the following 39 drivers who may or may not at Tunbridge Wells West are entitled to the Tunbridge Wells West special badge because they were at the depot on July 12, 1982 and where on the Branch’s books up to or in between the May Branch meeting 20th, 1984.

It was then put forward by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That all surplus of the above special badges be held in the Branch’s hands until all have claimed. All in favour.

The secretary did have a proof badge printed into lead. It was proposed by the Chairman and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That the proof badge goes into Branch files as part of the Branch’s property. All in favour.

It was suggested that Head Office gets one of our badges for Head Office Collection. This was proposed by Bro. I Bond and seconded by Bro. J. Carney. That a badge from Tunbridge Wells West go to Head Office of A.S.L.E.F. for their badge collection. All in favour.

The Chairman then closed the meeting at 12.05 thanking all for coming. 

For the minutes Bro. Marchant had to leave at 12.45 and Bro. Harris did leave t 11.30.

 1, Allen

 2, Ashdown

 3, Baldwin

 4, Bodium

 5, Breeds

 6, Brown J.J.

 7, Brown R.

 8, Carney

 9, Cocks, J.

10, Coomber

11, Cox

12, Crampton

13, Diplock

14, Dodwell

15, Dougherty,

16, Ellard

17, Elston

18, Exley

19, Gent

20, Harper

21, Harris,

22, Herriett

23, Knowles

24, Love

25, Luckhurst

26, McDonald

27, Neal

28, Nye

29, Ovenden

30, Pepper

31, Rigby

32, Stephenson

33, Sullivan

34, Taylor

35, Dore

36, Simpson

37, Marchant

38, Staggs

39, Bond

 

39 drivers in total. All if favour 

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 19th August 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 

Bros. A. Herriett, P. Elston, G. MacDonald, R. Simpson, R. Harris, I. bond, H. Marchant, W. Baldwin, E. Exley, 

S. Neal, L. Stephenson, K. Knowles & J. Carney

Bro. Bill Ford of Tonbridge was a guest.

 

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman for that meeting

The Chairman thanked everyone for attending and opened the meeting at 10.15 a.m. by asking the Secretary for the minutes of the July meeting. After which matters arising from the minutes were the L.D.C. Secretary did say he had not received a copy of the letter from Bro. S . Dunning N.U.R.  Chargeman, Tunbridge Wells West. After which the minutes was then oared to the members as a true record. It was proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. H. Marchant. That the minutes of the July be taken as a true record. All in favour.

On to circulars and correspondence was read and there was one voting paper that was for election of District Secretary No.1 & 8. As the Branch had nominated Bro. Fullick in the July meeting it was the desire of the members present that we should vote for him even though the Secretary did mention he had received letters from the West London Electric branch for Baraclough and letters from Waterloo for support of Bro. Fullick. It was proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and  seconded by Bro. H. Marchant. That Bro. D. Fullick does get Tunbridge Wells West vote for the forthcoming election for District Secretary. All in favour.

It was then asked that the Secretary write to Victoria drivers with the recent collection to Mrs. Ward.

The L.D.C. secretary did mention that item outstanding since the last meeting. Nothing had been done by management over those items, at the last meeting informed the Branch meeting the items discussed were. Asbestos at the depot, payslips late arrival at Tunbridge Wells West, electrification of the Hastings - Sectional Council had said that probably 10 cars to Tunbridge Wells Central and 8 cars to Hastings, the remaining either to Eridge or back to Tonbridge.

On any other L.D.C. nosiness, it was mentioned the trouble the Train Crew Supervisor was having when certain duties where rest day Saturday i.e. 04.00 319 R.D. Fri & Sat and R.D.R. 04.00 319 Fri at., who gets the earlist turn Sat. R.D. and it was asked if the L.D.C. could change over 310 & 338 on the roster and the Branch asked if the L.D.C. could report back at the next Branch meeting on any dealing with this problem. Bro. E. MacDonald did then asked if could propose a motion on men working rest days. This was seconded by Bro. Elston. That when a duty is a double rest day, he is to be booked the nearest time to his booked weekly work. There was a good debate after which the chairman put the motion to the vote and it was recovered as For 3, absent 8 & abstention 0 = 11 members voted. It was then declined the motion lost. Bro. C. Exley then asked the L.D.C. to changes to the roster as suggested be taken on board by them for future reference.

On Health & Safety Bro. L. Stephenson mentioned the asbestos in the mess room was to be renewed, Bro. R. Harris did inform the Branch that he had knowledge of asbestos in Unit 1123 and would the Health & Safety officer look into other units possibility of asbestos.

The Chairman then moved on to the next item on the agenda, which was badges. The Secretary read out the list to make sure members were aware of who was entitled to them. It was then brought about Bro. R. Bridger who did in fact came into work during the 1982 strike because of fears about his pension. The Secretary was asked what he had said to Bro. Bridger. The Secretary that made him join the strike. The Secretary said he had found that weather we all got sacked or not because Bro. Bridger was over 62 his pension right was safe, but also B.R. could not touch his pension as it had no control over it. It was then the Secretary gave his assurance to him that if he joined us on strike no members knowing the reasons for his return to work would not take any action against him. It was then proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. R. Harris. That Bro. R. Bridger be entitled to a special Tunbridge Wells West badges. The vote was recorded as For the motion 11, against 1 & abstention 0 = 12 members voted. It was then asked by the member to record in the minutes the reasons why he was allowed the badge and why he worked which has been done.

The meeting welcomed Bro. Bill Ford from Tonbridge branch and invited him to do the draw for the badges as it was discussed and adopted that a raffle tickets be put in the box and the 38 men who were entitled to as mentioned at the July meeting. The first number from the list got No.1 badge and so on the names and numbers did come out as  

01, R. Sullivan 

02, I. Bond

03, D. Nye

04, R. Simpson

05, J. Staggs

06, F. Crampton

07, P. Bodiam

08,   . Dore

09, A. Rigby

10, R. MacDonald

11, I. Breeds

12, R. Brown

13, P. Elston

14, S. Neal

15, A. Ashdown

16, R. Harper

17, R. Luckhurst

18, F. Diplock

19, W. Overden

20, C. Exley

21, J.J. Brown

22, R. Coomber

23, A. Herriett

24, M. Allen

25, R. Bridger

26, L. Stephenson

27, C. Taylor

28, H. Marchant

29, A. Dodwell

30, G. Ellard

31, R. Harris

32, H. Love

33, A. Cox

34, P. Pepper

35, J. Carney

36, K. Knowles

37, 

38, B. Gent

39 W. Baldwin

It was decided by all members attending that Bro. D. Ford from Tonbridge be allowed a badge from the extras as such was allowed No. 40.

It was suggested and again excepted by all that Head Office be given No.50 and one of the ordinary type for their collection.

That left eight badges Not. 41 to 49 inclusive, it was decided by the members present to allow those member who have been listed up at the depot a chance of having a second badge, it was made known by members that ten where interested and there were only eight. Bro. D. Ford did draw out eight tickets and the successful members were 41, Bro. W. Baldwin, 42, Bro. R. MacDonald, 43, Bro. I. Bond, 44, Bro. S. Neal, 45, Bro. R. Harris, 46, Bro. J. Carney, 47, Bro. K. Knowles, 48, Bro. L. Stephenson & 49, Bro. P. Elston.

The list of names may change as men change badges but it was the wish of the members that members should make it know who has these badges with a view of making sure only members who should have them have got them.

It was then proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. P. Elston. That the above list of names be executable to this Branch. All in favour.

As any other business, it was suggested that a presentation to Bro. F. Diplcok. This was debated and Bros. Ashdown and Asprey names was mentioned as they are retiring this year. It was then put forward a retirement party be held and the date suggested was Sunday 25th November 1984. to pay for this, some of the badge money and a raffles. It was then left the Secretary to organise these raffles on a fortnightly draw with the profit going towards the retirement night. The Secretary to inform the branch next meeting of progress.

Bro. I. Bond ask if the Branch would sent a letter to his friend who did design the badge on our behalf from a photo, his name is Andy Gregory. The Secretary said he would do so.

As no other business came forward, the Chairman closed the meeting by thanking all and mentioning that the Secretary will be disposing of Bro. F. Diplock M.I.C. box after this meeting.

The meeting ended at 12.30

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 16th September 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were 

Bros. I. Bond, J. Carney, K. Knowles, R. Harris, A. Herriett, L. Stephenson & R. Simpson

Bro. K. Knowles was Chairman for that meeting

The Chairman welcomed all and thanked all for attending and the meeting was opened  at 10.18

The Chairman asked the Secretary to read the minutes of the August meeting aftwer which the Secretary reported an error in the minutes of the July minutes on badges it had seemed that Bro. Collins had been left of the list and the Secretary suggested that as it was unlikely that Bro. Dore who was only at this depot for a short while that this badge be given to Bro. Collins also in the August minutes it was quotes as 38 badges on page 17 and it should have read 39. The members excepted the Secretary’s error but on the badge for Bro. Collins it was minuted as being changed over. Proposed by Bro. J. Carney and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That Bro. Collins name be put in place of Bro. Dore’s name on the list of names for Special badges at No. 8. All in favour.

After which the Chairman asked if the minutes could be taken as a true record. Bro. A. Heriett proposed and seconded by Bro. R. Harris. That the minutes for the August meeting with a amendment be taken as a true record. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars & correspondence since last meeting.

On 185/1984 October W.T.T. 1984.

The L.D.C. Secretary informed the meeting that this circular arrived too late as this L.D.C. had already completed the October W.T.T. 1984 and such now leaves a problem. The Secretary said he would write to Head Office and informed them that this branch had completed its altered working with management prior to received circular 185.

With reference to the Political Fund repayment, the Secretary mentioned he had no knowledge and he would write to enquire the exact nature of the letter.

The Chairman then asked if he could have a copy of the names and addresses of the Trades Council delegates, the Secretary said to would get him a copy.

The Chairman moved on to L.D.C. report

The L.D.C. Secretary, Bro. A. Herriett then mentioned that the new workings for the October workings have been accepted and it was mentioned that we have got a total increase in mileage but over a shorter amount of work. The spare have had to be lengthen, plus we have now lost the Selhurst work but gained a trip to Redhill home pass Mon – Fri only. We have lost one running turn to Oakfield but gained a trip to East Grinstead. R.D.R. on the roster has been changed in line with the comments made at  August Branch meeting.

On Sunday’s work, the members asked the L.D.C. if they could ask Redhill if any extra work Tunbridge Wells be informed there is Sunday work as after none coming though to the men at the depot

The L.D.C. Secretary did also mentioned that a meeting was arranged Tuesday 18th September 1984, on pre heating at Tunbridge Wells West in the morning.

Under any other L.D.C. business, Bro. J. Carney mentioned he was having difficulties with getting acknowledgements from management, it would seem that they have got internal problems, but Bro. J. Carney explained that should not affect the correspondence to and from T.C.M. Bro. J. Carney askd if the L.D.C. would take up his case when all the papers ones given to them. L.D.C. Secretary this they said they would.

Health & Safety Report was next and Bro. L. Stephenson listed what was on.

Mess Room – now been decorated but the floor has not been done, unsatisfactory.

Payslip problem, Brighton refuse the suggestion agreed between management and L.D.C. and seems all Brighton work will be down at Southampton.

Vacancy sheet shows 3 vacancies, one had ben cancelled, no reasons given.

Birchden Junction has now been started

On any other Health & Safety business. Signal T92 fast reversible has been reported.

Bro. J. Carney mentioned up Hastings branch E35 & 36, Perodical Notice informs drivers that Guard or shunter must inform signalmen when ready. E. stands for Eastern, we get C 35 & 36 for Central but it is not in their Health & Safety to take this one up as an L.D.C. item.

This item the Health & Safety officer has been seeing into fitters ------- now done

--------------- at East Grinstead, Ashurst station fences done. 

-------------------------    NEEDS TO BE ADDED


The next Health & Safety inspection is Tuesday 25th September

The Chairman thanked the K.D.C. and Health & Safety officers for their reports  and moved on to any other business.

The Secretary that the retirement raffles were being well supported and that if had come to his notice that 2 N.U.R members are retiring around the same time as our 3 members and suggested to the members present that Bro. A. Moorse and Bro. F. Wickens as they are retiring and their members are supporting the retirement raffles, it would be a nice jesture. After a short debate it was proposed by Bro. A. Herriett and seconded by Bro. L. Stephenson. That Bros A. Moorse and F. Wickens be invited to the retirement party with our 3 members. All in favour.

The Chairman notices as then brought to the attention that Bro. V. Hodges N.U.R. member had purchased one of our strike badges and then sold it to another N.U.R. member for £5. When the secretary had still got some of the badges at £1.50. it was then suggested by  Bro. R. Harris that the Secretary write to Bro. V. Hodges and inform him that the Branch is upset to hear that he sold the badge so shortly after paying for it and then obtaining another from the Secretary.

On the miners badge, the Branch Secretary mentioned he had on order 7, yet to be received.

On the retirement party, the Secretary mentioned that he had been having difficulties in obtaining the hall outside the depot at Sharfields and after a debate on different venues and it was proposed by Bro. R. Harris and seconded by Bro. I. Bond. That the hll be Teen & Twenty Ten, the food be allowance of £130.00 The group be an organist and a drummer or Something Sumber. The time of party to run from 7p.m. to 11p.m. on Sunday 25th November. All in favour.

The Chairman then again mentioned that a vacancy outstands on the Branch Committee and Branch Secretary Assistant. It was then that Bro. Robert Harris was willing to take up the position. It was then proposed by Bro. A. Herriet and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That this Branch accepts Bro. R. Harris as Assistant Branch Secretary for 1984. 1984. All in favour.

Bro. i. Bond then asked if the Secretary could find out about his 8b to Waterloo, he is January 1979 and the sheet shows July 1979. The Secretary said he would ring up Sectional Council.

Some members then asked for the new ASLEF Badge Centenary, it would seem they have lost theirs or have received them. The Secretary said he would write off.

The Chairman then brought the meeting to close at 12.28, thanking all again for turning out to the meeting.

Tunbridge Wells Meeting

Sunday 21st October 1984 at 10.00 a.m.

at the Welfare Rooms Tunbridge Wells Central Station

In attendance were Bros. A. Herriett, J. Carney, R. Harris, , L. Stephenson, I. Bond & R. Simpson.

Special Guest Bro. John Davis Sectional Council member

The Secretary had received one apology that was from Bro. K. Knowles it was then Bro. A. Herriett Vice Chairman of the Branch did take the Chair.

Bro. A. Herriott asked if there was any objection to him taking the chair as there were none, the meeting was then opened at 10.24 by the Chairman thanking all for attending plus welcoming Bro. J. Davis for his attendance.

The minutes were then reading, on matter arising, the Secretary did reword as he had written satisfactory when it should have read unsatisfactory, this was amended after being read. On the letter to Bro. V. Hodges, the Secretary mentioned that it had been mention to Bro. Hodges before the Secretary had put pen to paper and that Bro. Hodges was looking forward to seeing this letter which to date had not been written,  but would be done so within the next few days. On train heating, this was held over to L.D.C. reports.

It was then the Chairman asked for the minutes to be taken as a true record. Proposed by Brp. L. Stephenson and seconded by Bro. R. Harris. That  the minutes of the September branch meeting be taken as a true record with the amendment. All in favour.

The Chairman then moved on to circulars and correspondence since last meeting.

The Chairman then moved on to voting papers, this was for 2nd ballot on Parliamentary Panel, after a short debate it was decided that Tunbridge Wells Branh did not want to use its vote on this subject, so was put aside.

The other paper before the brancg was nomination for Executive Committee Representative District No.1.

The Secretary then read out the letters received to date on those members wish to stand, they were

Bro. Len Worboys Portsmouth Branch

Bro. Ray Browning Battersea Branch

Bro. Jim Rowe Basingstoke Branch

Bro. Dave Bush Slades Green Branch

Bro. John Davies Hither Green Branch

The Branch welcomed Bro. John Davies to their meeting who did then give a talk on the reasons why he feels that he would like to represent us on the E.C. Bro. Davies did mention that there was one other member going for the E.C. position Bro. Bob Black of Selhurst Branch, but to date the Secretary had not received anything from him.

Members were invited to ask questions to Bro. Davies of which some were very local points. Bro. Davies did mention that his pet subject was pensions and welfare of the members and thought that he was very qualified in this field, and he had rang the Branch’s Secretary a week before this Branch meeting to ask if the Branch would nominate him for the forthcoming election, the Secretary on behalf of the members invited Bro. Davies to this meeting for that purpose, and becaue Bro. Davies ia Sectional Council member. Lots of question was asked on the local level.

It was then the Chairman asked the members to decide on which member they would like to nominate. Bro. R. Harris proposed and seconded by Bro. R. Simpson. That this branch nominates Bro. John Davies of Hither Green Branch for the forthcoming election for E.C. Member District No.1. all in favour.

The Chairman then mentioned that he had a 10 year long service badge and this was for the Secretary, Bro. J. Carney, this was then presented to Bro. J. Carney

After which the Secretary mentioned that the retirement party to date four members have replied,  3 have excepted one has said they could not attend. The hall has been booked, the Teen and Twenty of River Walk, Tonbridge. The food has been arranged, the music has yet to be finalised. On the sale of raffle tickets, it was mentioned that members are refusing tickets because they believe they have got tickers that have been drawn, so would members please check to see if they got the right tickets to date. We have just got over £100.00, it is expected that the total for the Retirement Party is £260 aprox.

The L.D.C. Report

Bro. A. Herriott mentioned that up Hastings Branch was still being looked into

Pre Heat man at Tunbridge Wells had been agreed to and as from the 1st Monday of November to the first Monday of March. A man will booked up and not to be used for any other purpose.

The Chairman then mentioned that it was close to 12.30 and unless standing orders are withdrawn the meeting would close. Bro. J. Carney proposed and by Bro. R. Simpson. That Standing Orders be withdrawn to enable the meeting to continue. All in favour.

On any other L.D.C. business Bro. J. Carney brought to the members attention that Signal T136 repeater was out of action and has been for the last two months. Could the L.D.C. take this up? The L.D.C. suggested that members write to management with a view of getting the signal re-sighted, taken out of service, await their reply and then progress through the L.D.C.

On Sunday work for Tunbridge Wells members, it has been heard that Sunday work is being turned away by the Foreman. The Secretary mentioned that Norwood are  short of around 10 drivers this Sunday (21st October). Bro. R. Harris had been in contact with the T.C.S. Norwood before the meeting and found that 10 turns were uncovered. Bro. John Davies mentioned that Redhill had been offering Norwood work as were Victoria and could see no reason why Tunbridge Wells men should not be working. The L.D.C mentioned that they have had a meeting with management and formulated an agreement were Tunbridge Wells men would be uterlised after all other men at depots had been had been used. This did happen for two weeks only. Bro. J. Davies mentioned that he is attending a full Council meeting on Moday 22nd October and would ring the Secretary on Monday or Tuesday evening.

On Health & Safety

Bro. L. Stephenson mentioned that he had completed his quarterly inspection on September 25th. In his report were.

Mess room – finished decorated, 5 m.p.h. speed around yard, Birchden Junction, Ashurst River Bridge, East Grinstead Yard, Oxted – Brambles, water heater and lino in room at Tunbridge Wells.</