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HORSHAM E.M.U.T.
JOHN SCRACE COLLECTION
Leading Motorman Charles Scrace
The head code is to commemorate his 65th birthday and his retirement.
Charlie Scrace seniority date 22.10.1917. Charlie was a Horsham man all of his career. He ended up as Leading Motorman at Horsham before he retired in 1966. His son, John is the well known railway photographer.
Fred Manvell
Seniority Date 22.04.1940
Left ~ Right: Biff Manvell, Jack Brooker, Cyril Brookhurst, Harry Clack
& Fred Manvell
L~R Fred Manvell, Reg Hampshire (27.05.1947)
& Gordon Percival (22.01.1941)
Cyril Brockhurst & Biff Manvell
HORSHAM MOTORMEN BEING ISSUED WITH THEIR E.P. KEYS AFTER THEY HAD BEEN TRAINED ON E.P.B. STOCK
Name Key No. Date.
Barham. 152
Heasham. 153
Sargent. 154
Parker. 155
Martin. 157
Shrubb. 159
Packham. 160
Brackpool. 161
Woolmer. 163
Howey. 164
Brockhurst, C. 165
Carr. 166
Knight. 168
Brooker. J. 171
West. 172
Symons. E. 173
Ruff. 174
Groom bridge. 176
Scutt. F. 179
Taylor. 180
Garham. 181
Gorringe. 182
Pelham. 187
Clack, H. 188
Lawrence. 301
Scarce, C 304
Little. 431
Manvell, F 1894
Percival, G. 2253.........08.07.1957
Hutchins, W. 2351.........29.05.1958
Bulbeck, C. 2418.........03.05.1958
Greenwood, D. 2419.........03.05.1958
Pitt, L. 2468.........30.05.1958
Godden, F.A. 2754.........12.07.1958
Penfold, D. 2922.........16.05.1959
Hampshire, R. 3367.........14.05.1960
Wheeler. 3304.........30.07.1960
INFORMATION FROM THE E.P. REGISTER OF THE SOUTHERN REGION TRAINING SCHOOL BASED AT STEWART’S LANE
Curtsey of Brian Cooke
Reg Hampshire standing on the up fast platform at South Croydon in 13th April 1983.
The headcode denotes that the train is a fast Horsham to Victoria (via Quarry line) and the unit is a 4 V.E.G.
(a convert V.E.P. for the Vic to Gatwick rail-air service).
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Roy Peckham 01.02.1950 |
 R. Pope |
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
OCTOBER 1976
HORSHAM
E.C. MEMBER AT HORSHAM
On Sunday, September 7, Horsham enjoyed a visit from E.C. Member Bro. D. Fullick, who was once again in fine voice.
Derek gave us a first-class report and up-to-the-minute details of all aspects of conditions affecting our member grades. Particular attention was paid to the B.R. financial position and also to the subject of consumption of alcohol.\both items gave plant of scope for questions from the floor, and Derek was kept busy to answer them all in the time at our disposal. (When is someone going to invent a 30-hour day?)
A first class meeting, well attended and fully enjoyed by the E.C. Member as well as by the Horsham membership.
W. Hutchings
Branch Secretary
 Mick James | 
Geoff Ball (28.08.1963) |
Horsham Down Sidings
LONG MAY SHE REIGN OVER US
This picture of Queen Elizabeth originates back to the old loco day’s, were it hung in the lobby, so when the loco closed it moved down to the Station, and was re hung in the Driver’s end of the messroom.
As far as I know the Motormen's first room was on platform one, and they booked on there, not sure if the dual link booked on in the Loco or down the station. I never went in it, but stayed in the Hornby link.
Rodney Burstow
The last Central "Mary" Trip to Horsham
1907 - 1982
 Mick Neale (17.07.1978) c1989 (Transferred back to Immingham) |  Don Payne 11.10.1943 |
 Jack Pitt (28.02.1944) in foreground & Ken Slaughter (Horsham Guard) in the back ground). |
 R.Wheeler |
 Dick Holden |  Mick Hockley 14.01.1957 |
Bob Dorkings & Steve Hedger (West Worthing)
Not to sure if Bob was at Horsham or Littlehampton when this photo was taken in the early 1980s
Horsham "A shift" 1980s
Standing Left ~Right: Brian Whitehead, Neville Speed, Don Payne, C. Grant, & Reg Hampshire,
Seated from the
Back Row L~R: A. Harris, George Burton,
Middle Row: Tony Luff & H. Clack,
Front Row: Dave Penfold, W. Edwards & Dave Greenwood.
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
MARCH 1992
I have read the D.R. I from British Rail dated 14 January and I feel a few of my thoughts would not be a miss.
Some parts i do agree with i.e a maximum of 55 rostered hours in any one week; no split shifts; 12 turns of duty in any two weeks; 12 house between shifts; and, of course better wages and better pensions.
What I feel needs a lot of attention is turns of duty not over five and half hours and no P.N. Breaks. On the Southern Region (Central), five hours continuous driving on a suburban stopping service would in my opinion, would not only be soul destroying but a big safety risk. I can foresee many angry L.D.C. meetings over this problem.
On page 7 of the report, the final paragraph: M&EE staff moving units within depots. If this takes place, what’s going to happen to drivers unfortunate enough to fail medical or eyesight tests? It makes you think!
Finally, why has it taken British Rail so long to realise that they need more recruits for driving when the unions have been telling them for years that a shortage of drivers was bound to happen, but no notice was taken?
Best wishes to you all, and may you have good health and strength to get a good deal for all.
W (Bill) Hutchings
Retired, Horsham Branch
 |  Geoff Ball, Ron Thomas (Epsom), Dave Greenwood (front) & Unknown Left: Eddie Jones c1983 06.04.1940 |
Geoff Ball, Ron Thomas (Epsom), Dave Greenwood & Dave Penfold
(George Burton?, Don Payne?, J. Eaton?)
Horsham E.M.U.T. Seniority list February 1988
Above L-R Chris Bassett, Denis Bloom & Unknown
Left
L-R Paul White (Bog), Denise Bloom & Chris Bassett
Horsham Train Crew & Platform Staff photographed on 22nd June 1994 during the R.M.T.'s Signalmans Strike:
Standing Tony Hooper, Brian Boxall, Mark Hateley(?), Dennis Watts, Unknown(1), Graham Holmes, Graham Richardson (Guard), Chris Bassett, Ron Trotman, Dick Ford, Geoff Waters (Trainman "G"), Reg Hampshire,
Mick Hockley & Brian Flack (Trainman "G").
Front Keith Hollingsworth, John Spears & Unknown(2).
Horsham Branch Sidings
Locomotive Journal
Septrmber 2010
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
ALMOST £5,700 RAISED FOR CANCER CHARITY
IN July I cycled fromJohn O'Groats to Lands End in aid of Cancer Research UK.
I did this in memory of my mum-in-law who passed away last year. She was married to Cliff Pattenden, a retired Three Bridges driver who was my Driving Instructor.
My work colleagues were very generous and when ASLEF very kindly put out a national appeal, branches
donated a further £295. Without Gift aid we have now raised £4,860 (our target was £1,500!). With Gift aid it will be nearer £5,700!
Many thanks to you all for your remarkable generosity. If you are interested, there are some pictures of my journey on-line at www.kevsjogle.com.
Kevin Shepherd, Horsham
Ken Hall & Malcolm Gurr
in the Malt Sidings c2005
Biff Manvell
At Havant with The Southern Belle on 17th September 2005
This was a farewell tour of the Kent Coasters (C.E.P.s) that were introduce on the Southern Region between 1951/57. They were initially were built for the electrification of the coastal towns in Kent and were later used across the Southern Region.
Photo from
Colin Price
Collection
BIFF MANVELL'S PRESENTATION 2011
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Above Biff Manvell receiving his fifty years A.S.L.E.F. medallion |
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LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
APRIL 2013
YES TO EUROPE TRADE, NO TO THE EU
Glenis Willmott’s article about the EU (February Journal) was interesting - although not entirely accurate. Sadly she's brought out the same old trade argument which simply does not stand up. The UK currently has around 40%of its trade with the EU, therefore we have around 60% of our trade with non-EU countries who are generally enjoying faster growth of trade,output, employment and living standards than EU members where with one or two exceptions, growth is minimal or negative. Before you dispute my figures perhaps Glenis Willmott would like to comment on the ‘Rotterdam effect’, whereby UK exports sent to non-EU countries via continental ports are erroneously counted as exports to the EU. She might also like to comment on why the EU has been unable to convince its own auditors to sign off its accounts for any of the last 18 years! If the EU were a business, its directors would be in jail.
If the UK left the EU we could continue to be a member of the European Economic Area (EEA), and trade with our European neighbours would continue in much the same way as it does now, largely because it would be in everyone’s interest to do so, given that we buy a lot more from the EU than they buy from us. Furthermore if we left the EU, the UK could regain its seat on the World Trade Organisation (WTO) and its ability to negotiate bilateral trade agreements with non-EU countries.
I could argue for a long time over the figures, but of greater concern to me is the EU’s total disregard for democracy. For example we now have Herman Van Rompuy as president of 500 million EU citizens but not one of us had an opportunity to vote for him. He was simply appointed. We also have the very sinister European Arrest Warrant, under which any of us could be arrested, and held in custody without charge, for an indefinite period in any EU country.
Now we find that despite massive regulation, we have been consuming horse meat masquerading as beef in this country for some time. This is surely a classic example of how the EU has failed its citizens. I agree with Glenis that the on-going uncertainty over a referendum is harmful - so the sooner it happens the better. If the EU is such a brilliant idea why are the ruling political elites of all parties so frightened of a referendum? Remember no-one under the age of 56 has ever had the opportunity to vote on the issue, and those over 56 only voted on joining a trading block, not a European Federation.
How about devoting a full page in the Journal to the pro-independence view, just to balance things up?
Ken Hall, Horsham,
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
JULY 2013
Marz Colombini (centre) presents long service awards to (from left) Stuart Boaks (20 years), Andy Coombe (10), Richard Copeland (5), and David Baker (15)
Marz Colombini, our E.C member, attended our April branch meeting and as well as providing us with lots of very
interesting information was kind enough to award members service badges.
The four drivers in the photograph have a total of half a century’s service. This is the number of years Biff Manvell put in on his own, and we regret we don’t have a picture of him but all our cameras had an off day! No offence, Biff!
Pete Scott,
Secretary
Horsham Branch
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
NOVEMBER 2013
ARTHUR GODDEN
SOUND OF MUSIC
Arthur godden died on 31 July at the age of 83. Arthur started his railway career at horsham, followed by Victoria. He did his national service from 1947 to 1949. He loved musicals, and all types of music, especially Frank Sinatra, and made many visits to the Albert hall for concerts. Our thoughts are with his long time friend Peggy at this very sad time.
Ken Heydon Battersea Branch
Left Arthur Godden
THE OPENING OF HORSHSAM's NEW
TRAIN CREW MESS ROOM
DECENBER 2013
Pete Scott Collection
Horsham Depot Picture 2013
Front Row Left to Right - Pete Scott (D), Grahame Harris (P), Chris Brook (D), Ian Cox (D), Kevin Shepherd (D),
Darren Welsh (D),David Baker (D), Stuart Boaks (D), Denise Bloom (D), Richard Black (D), Graham Richardson (C),
Tim Milward (LM), Kevin Bass (D),Brian Templeton (D), Steve Webb (D), Maria Hulbard (DOM), Andy Card (C)
Second Row Row Left to Right - John Aitkin (C), Andy Philbrick (D), Valentine Ogwu (C), Lee Laker (C), Mark Allin (D), Simon Horton (C), Martin Green (D), Johnny Jones (D), Sonia Milner (C), Will Lock (D), Dan Penfold (D), Dave Bellinger (D),Alan Colwill (D), Clayton Turner (D), Andy Morgan (C), Paul Coxall (D), Andy McConnon (D), Ian Foran (D), Keith Pountney (C),R O’Sullivan (D), Omar Ali (C), Kevin Alderton (P)
Third Row Left to Right - Mick Hall (C), John Chew (C), Cliff Brooker (D), Basil Byers (P), Andy Clark (P), Jim Churcher (D), Sangeet Karthikeyan (C), Tony Bush (D), Neil Collier (D), Andy Coombe (D), Sean Healy (D), Rob Thorne, Rob Bird (D), Bo Toia (D),Fernando Engelbrect (C), Dave Roberts (D), Jenny Scott (C), Andy Hine (C), Andy Gant (D), Joe Wood (C), Sandy Cassidy (C), Simon Morse (C), Harry Dall (C), Martin Richardson (D), Andy Robson (D), David Retter (D), Ken Hall (D), Adrian Walsh (C)
Back Row Left to Right - Marcus Humprey (D), Kevin Nye (LM), Pete Ambiguo (D), Stewart Allen (D), Danny Bright (P),Terry Herbert (D), Russell Little (C), Bob Robinson (D), Geoff Denman (P), Mush Marad (C), Darren Lee (C), Pete Cheeseman (D), Mike Ryan (D), Kevin Attwell (P), Richard Copeland (D), Dave Haines (C)
Cab Left to Right - Mark Judd (D), Andy Melillo (C), Francis Taylor (C), Chris Bassett (D)
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
APRIL 2014
Illusion of democracy
I read with interest Glenis Willmott’s article in the January Journal. What Glenis failed to mention is that the EU Parliament has little or no power, so it doesn’t really matter what the UKIP group or Labour group votes for. All the power at the European Union rests with the 27 commissioners, only one of which represents
the UK. Most people don’t know who their EU Commissioner is, largely because not one of us had the opportunity to vote for her (there’s a clue) as she was appointed.
The EU Parliament exists to create an illusion of democracy. It does not have legislative initiative; it is not able to initiate laws and policies, which is precisely what you would expect a Parliament to be doing. It votes on the regulations and directives created by the commissioners and their army of bureaucrats. But even if Parliament votes against a piece of legislation, the commissioners could, and would, overrule that decision. At best they can tweak it slightly and claim to have made major changes, in the same way that the failed EU constitution became the Treaty of Lisbon.
If the UK were to withdraw from the EU, it would once again be up to our own government at Westminster to introduce legislation through a democratic process. This is not perfect, but at least you know who your MP is and it’s straightforward to lobby them, as an individual, or a union, and if said MP doesn’t shape up, you have the opportunity to select someone else at the general election, unlike the EU Commissioners, who are accountable to no one.
Ken Hall,
Horsham branch
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
JULY 2016
E.C. saw through rhetoric
It’s reassuring that A.S.L.E.F.’s executive committee saw through the E.U. rhetoric and backed the Leave campaign. However, true to our democratic roots, a full page in the Journal was given to Alan Johnson to put the opposite view, but Alan only told half the story. Kelvin Hopkins, who offers A View from the Left, says ‘The E.U. is not at its core about employment rights, nor is it about human rights. Employment rights have been established to give the illusion it is on the side of workers and trade unions, at least slightly, and to keep trade unions passive and quiescent.’
Ken Hall,
Horsham
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
AUGUST 2016
SO WE BEAT ON, BOATS AGAINST THE CURRENT
In these difficult times working for Southern or G.T.R. or whatever they want to call themselves it is good to report that, despite all the company throws at us, the spirit at Horsham depot remains as strong as ever. Our colleagues in the R.M.T. have manned the picket line and suffered financial and physical hardship, given the weather, and had their travel and parking privileges withdrawn, all to defend running a safe railway. Due to legal shenanigans by G.T.R., drivers have bee unable to show similar support. Our fantastic L.D.C. rep Stuart Boaks asked for donations to help our R.M.T. colleagues at this difficult time. I am proud to say that our depot, with about 60 drivers, raised £2,500 which was shared equally among R.M.T. members. I think this is a fantastic effort and shows our spirit and commitment to do everything we can to stop any expansion of D.O.O. services.
Pete Scott, Branch Secretary
LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL
DECEMBER 2016
I note that A.S.L.E.F. has offered an official poppy badge which appears to be in support of the Royal British Legion poppy appeal. However, there is no indication on the A.S.L.E.F. shop website or in the Journal that a donation to the poppy appeal will be made from the sale of each badge. Please clarify the situation because at the moment it looks like you are selling poppy merchandise for the benefit of A.S.L.E.F., not the benefit of the poppy appeal.
Ken Hall, Horsham
All profits go to the RBL, Ken.
Horsham Members Picket Line
Friday 16th December 2016
DAY 3
Horsham Branch Picket Line
Tuesday 10th January 2017
DAY 4
Horsham Branch Picket Line
Wednesday 11th January 2017
DAY 5
Horsham Branch Picket Line
Friday 13th January 2017
DAY6
5.01.2023
HORSHAM A.S.L.E.&F. BRANCH
125 ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATIONS
21st APRIL 2023
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