IGNITING THE SUSSEX BEACONS

OF UNITY

THE HISTORY OF THE

SUSSEX BRANCHES OF A.S.L.E.F. 



EVERY PICTURE TELLS A STORY 

 One of the main reasons for doing these web sites is to try and explain to everybody the history of the footplate grades, the conditions they had to work in and the creation of the A.S.L.E.F. branches within the Brighton & Sussex area.

I am therefore very grateful for people sending me personal photos from their personal collection and for allowing me to display them on the web sites. But unfortunately what is missing, are the stories that accompany them. What I want to do is to try and remedy this by starting to record the remaining stories that are still out there, before they too are lost in the midst of time.

I have added some information about some of the drivers that I know and the comments that have already have been sent to me.

If you too have any stories about your own working life on the footplate, the people that you worked with and the conditions you had to work in please send me and I will post, on the web site.

If you are interested in helping me in capturing these stories by any means possible please let me know.




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 I am trying to find out the names of the A.S.L.E.F. Branch Secretaries for the Horsham Branch and the dates they served between. if you have any info please can you let me know.

W. Buckham c1900, W. H. Worcester c1911,W.Tullet c1912, A. Francis c1926, R.T. Taylor c1942, Frank Barham c1945, George Howse c1948/51, William (Bill) Hutchings, Rodney Burstow pre 1982 - 1992 (retired), Ken Bass c1993, Pete. Scott c2008

 

 

HORSHAM

 

 This web page is dedicated to all A.S.L.E.F. members who have worked at Horsham depot over the years, and it features A.S.L.E.F. members who brought the trains of Horsham to life.

  

 

The Horsham locomotive shed was opened on 14th February 1848 by the L.B.S.C.R. (Shed Code Hors). The locomotive shed was to close on the 18th July 1959 with the steam depot remaining opened until 27th January 1964.

With the electrification arriving at Horsham, this created a Motorman’s (E.M.U.T.) depot opening in 1938.

The Horsham Branch of ASLEF was opened on 24th April 1898. 

Jack Enves of Brighton Branch, spoke at the opening of the Newhaven Branch on the 16th June 1912, that A.S.L.E.F. members from Midhurst, Littlehampton & Bognor, were part of the Horsham Branch. 

 

  “THE HORSHAM HORNBY LINK "

 

 

STORIES FROM THE SHOVEL

Memories of the Horsham Hornbys

By Rodney Burstow.

 

It was only Horsham and Newhaven men who originally worked these locomotives, at Horsham loco we had a “Hornby link.”. Horsham men took them with open arms, and what a good job they did, I doubt Horsham Loco would have survived as long as we did if we hadn’t, our local goods and passenger traffic could have easily been covered by the likes of Guildford, Three Bridges and Brighton, as was proved in much later years!

Brighton, Three Bridges and the London men refused to have them for years. I can remember a certain driver who booked on at Horsham to work the Newhaven Boat and was told the Hornby was broken down and he was to be steam hauled he nearly S**t a brick, but he did it some how. I used to love these engines, powerful, but a bit too light on their feet, a fitted head was always useful. Second men used to go white some times, when running light engine.

I worked the Boat Train down to Newhaven, we had a couple of rostered turns if I remember. Once on arrival at Newhaven, the Guard came up really serious and informed me I was half a minute down at Keymer, but he would forget it as we were right time at the harbour!! We also work the Lewes goods, then light to Pollenate and Eastbourne with the “Hornby's" Coal train from Polegate to Three Bridges. We also worked to Wimbledon Park and suburban area for special workings and maintenance, us “Hornby Gangers” got about a bit! When Horsham shut we took the work to Three Bridges. 

Loco No 3, was fitted with the driver's seat you had to change ends with, they did give us one both ends in the ends.

Driver Reg Hampshire left with 10 hoppers steam hauled, I left thirty five minutes behind him and passed him between Salfords and Earlswood and I went via Redhill both going to Bricklayers Arms, Reg actually lost control down Forest Hill but thankfully was able to regain it.

Additional info provided by Biff Manvell

 

Below is of Balcombe sidings, overhead wires were put there specifically to test panto's on these loco. I never went there, and the only times I used the pantograph was Bricklayers Arms, where they had a short stretch on oneroad. 

I use to sometimes raise it going round Arundel Junction just to see the reaction of the Signalman!! 



 

Above Balcombe Up Yard

Left, a newspaper cutting about Driver Charlie Greenwood, working the Newhaven boat with a Bullied electric loco No. CC3.

There is no info regarding which newspaper wrote the article or date. 

This information was provided by Mike Greenwood (Charlie's Greenwood's youngest son).

 

 

 PHIL WIMPORY COLLECTION

                                                                      George Waters

 George Waters seniority date 02.04.1918) George was a driver at Horsham, and one of the ‘Hornby’ men.

 

 

 

PHIL WIMPORY COLLECTION

Dick Ford 

PHIL WIMPORY COLLECTION

Left - Right Dick Ford & George Waters

CC1 / 20001  

 

 

PHIL WIMPORY COLLECTION

Dicky Doel 

 Walter Doel, seniority date 07.06.1920 – Eastleigh /Horsham. Walter, was known as Dick and later Engineer ( this was because he stated that drivers were locomotive engineers according to A.S.L.E.&F.). He was a fireman at Horsham and when the Slades Green contingent arrived in 1926, was put back cleaning for a couple of years. Dick was one of the ‘Hornby’ men at Horsham.

Information by Brian Cooke

 

 

                                                                             Fireman Phil Wimpery 

 

              PHIL WIMPERY COLLECTION  

 

 

 Charlie Cook on Bullied's CC2

Brian Cook's Grandfather

 

 

LIST OF SOME OF THE HORSHAM “HORNBY” LINK DRIVERS BEING ISSUED THEIR E.P. KEYS  IN 1959

AFTER THEY HAD LEARNT Bo.Bo.

(CLASS 71)


Name                                    Key No.    Date  Issued 

Smith, W.                                     3053......05.07.1959

Hampshire, E.                              3055......05.07.1959

Reeves, R.                                    3056.....18.07.1959

Burstow, R.                                  3057.....18.07.1959

Wheeler, R.                                  3084.....15.09.1959

Speed, N.                                     3085......15.09.1959

Doel, W      .                                 3052.....26.09.1959

Lilley, R.                                      3108......26.09.1959

Cook, C.                                       3109.....26.09.1959 

Whitehead, B.                               3130.....26.11.1959

INFORMATION FROM THE E.P. REGISTER OF THE SOUTHERN REGION TRAINING SCHOOL BASED AT STEWART’S LANE   

 Curtsey of Brian Cooke

Above Rodney Burstow's photos of electric locos, that were worked by Horsham loco men 

Above Rodney Burstow's photos of electric locos, that were worked by Horsham loco men 

RODNEY BURSTOW COLLECTION

Driver George Waters standing next to the first of six JA EDLs at Stewart's Lane 

 

 

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