THE SUSSEX MOTIVE POWER DEPOTS

NEWHAVEN LOCO

1847 ~1963

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This web page is dedicated to all A.S.L.E.F. members who have worked at Newhaven depot over the years, and it 

features A.S.L.E.F. members who brought the trains of Newhaven to life.

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Newhaven locomotive Shed was opened on 8th December 1847 by the L.B.S.C.R. (Shed Code N) and 

located at Newhaven Harbour. The shed was closed in 1887 and relocated to behind Newhaven Town 

station.

Newhaven locomotive shed was a sub-depot of the Brighton shed and closed on the 9th September 1963.

The Newhaven Branch of A.S.L.E.F. was opened in 16th June 1912 and closed in 30th September 1963.

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Loco No. 292, July 1874 at Seaford 

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 THE RAILWAY DOGS

Courtesy of Steve West

CLICK ON ICON FOR MORE INFORMATION REGARDING

THE HISTORY OF RAILWAY DOGS 

E. J. Bedford Collection 

Beulah was based at Newhaven when this photo was taken at Lewes in c1876

Right: Inspector William Hayden (Department unknown).

Above is a list of all the engine men that where employed at Newhaven (Harbour) Locomotive Department in 1877. It is not know if this is list was compiled in seniority order or not. However, the list does clearly indicates the  difference in the ages of both drivers & fireman at that period of time.

 E. J. Bedford Collection 

Crowborough was based at Newhaven when this photo was taken at Lewes in c1892

 STORIES FROM THE SHOVEL

extracted from the R.C.T.S. book of L.B.S.C.R. Locomotive

SHED DOORS

The escape of engine No.133 Picardy on the evening of 11^th February, 1889, when it was being stabled until the morning on Newhaven shed after having worked in with a train of horse boxes. The shed doors were partly closed and not noticing this in the darkness driver Benson drove through them and in the subsequent confusion crashed into a wagon of loaded with ashes. Apart from odd scratches and dents, and a lost chimney damage was so slight that hurried repairs permitted the return working to be taken with little delay. Nevertheless driver Benson was fined £2. 2s. 0d. and a shed labourer dismissed for moving the shed doors without permission and not placing a red light on the wagon which he was loading. 

Life could be hard on the Brighton!

Driver James Beach who was driving an A Class Terrier Tank No. 41 'Piccadilly', on the 4th February 1901, On this morning he was running light engine from Newhaven to Seaford, there to undertake a spell of shunting before working a goods back to Lewes. When about three hundred yards from Seaford beach he attempted to feed water to the boiler only to find the pumps would not to work, so he had to walk along the side framing and opened the left hand pet tap. On making his way back to safety of his cab a sudden jerk upset Driver Beach’s grip and he fell to the  ballast. fortunately the engine wheels missed him.

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NEWHAVEN HARBOUR

COMPANY'S LOCOMOTIVES

Owing to difficulties the Newhaven Harbour had to be controlled by an independent company, which worked in close co-operation with the L.B.S.C.R. Known as the Newhaven Harbour Company, this concern employed horses on the quays for some years before turning to steam power. The first indication of this was on 6th July, 1880 when the Minute Book records £300 being made available for purchasing a suitable tank locomotive. Apparently one was not found, for on 5th April, 1881 Stroudley suggested raising the price to £550 and offered to inspect a second hand engine advertised for sale by the Huslett Engine Company. The was accepted and on 3rd May, 1881 a saddle tank engine named ‘Wave’ was at work hauling sand from the beach to Denton Cement

With no signalling on the quay lines, apart from that applying to the Brighton Company’s track it is not surprising that minor incidents occurred from time to time. For instance ‘Wave’ ran into and killed one of the shunting horses on the night of 11th February, 1883, while in the following year on 6th May ‘Bradford’ collided with several loaded coal wagons and pushed two of them into the harbour. Of greater consequence was the accident on the evening of 23rd March, 1888 when Wave’s crew lost control of a heavy train of stone blocks and crashed at speed into some empty wagons, which in ran into Bradford. No one was injured, both crews having jumped clear in time, but the Harbour

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sent out from Brighton shed and was back at work in four days, but Wave had to be towed away to Brighton Works and returned to traffic on 27th May, 1888, on the 7th December 1892 was sold for scrap. Bradford was again damaged by runaway wagons on 25th April, 1892 and was sent to Brighton for repairs and returned back to Newhaven on 28th July and was laid up in February, 1898. Terrier engine no. 69 acted as a temporary replacement, while negotiations were made for the purchase of Terrier engine No.72 ‘Fenchurch’ on 27th June 1898. Over the following months various Terriers were hired for varying periods, but once work ceased on the sea defences in February 1902, Fenchurch proved sufficient.

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LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

JULY 1911

Extracted and adapted from A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick’s 

report page 332

The following Wednesday (3^rd May) found me at Newhaven, a small locomotive centre on the London, Brighton 

and South Coast Railway, about the only one on the Brighton line where we have not got a branch of our 

Society. I got to work and made the necessary preparations by way of hall and bills for open meeting on the 

Sunday (7^th May), but on the Friday (12^th May) was called away to attend a Board of Trade inquiry at New 

Cross. In this case a wagon examiner had been killed whilst engaged in his duties, but after going thoroughly 

into the matter it was agreed that our member was in no way to blame.

I returned to Newhaven, and at the meeting a few of our members from Brighton and Eastbourne attended, 

together with Brother Harrison, of Battersea, who presided, but the Newhaven men made a poor show in 

turning up. However, it was very interesting and those who did attend went away wiser with regard to the 

position and doings of our Society, and thus, I hope, the first step was taken towards establishing a branch of 

our Society at Newhaven.

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LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

page 358

AUGUST 1912

Extracted and adapted from

A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

 I then spent nine days at the Conference, and on returning visited Fulham in the morning and an open meeting at 

Covent Garden in the evening, and the following day left for Newhaven, with the view to open a branch of our 

Society there. This is rather a small depot on the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, but quite large 

enough to maintain a branch. I did the needful by way of visiting, bills, &c., and on the Sunday a few friends from 

Brighton with Brother Marshall, from Eastbourne, came over to lend a hand, with the result that a branch was 

opened and arrangements made for the future.

W. Warwick

September 1912 

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As intimated in my last report, a branch of our Society was opened at Newhaven on Sunday, June 16th, but 

owing to not having books, &c, it was necessary for me to pay another visit in order to instruct our new 

secretary, and to assist in finding a suitable club room, &c. I attended to this on the Tuesday, 25th, and am 

pleased to state I had but little difficulty in carrying out the above mentioned duties. 

 Above are the minutes from the opening meeting of the Newhaven Branch of A.S.L.E.F. 

The Branch's first meeting was held in the White Hart Hotel on Sunday 30th, June, whereby two more loco-men Bros. 

W. Goldsmith & W. Smith joined the Branch

 Special Open meeting held at the Co-Operation Hall on

Sunday June 16th 1912 at 3.0 p.m.

We were asking for but 1/- entrance fee when he joined the Society they paid anything up to 10/- and did not know whether the Society would be a success or not. A man joining now practically knew that he was joining a strong and finically sound organisation. 

Bro T. Hatcher thanked the speakers on behalf of the meeting for their remarks and appealed for new members. But hoped they would elect a Chairman and Secretary so could manage their own business.

Bro. Harrison endorsed Mr. Warwick remarks and stated that when they opened the Bricklayers Arms Branch about five years ago it was a most disorderly meeting but the Branch is now 150 strong.

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 30th at 6 o’clock

It being our first Branch meeting it was proposed by Bro J. Smith and Sec. Bro. A. Pearce. “That Bro. T.W Hatcher take the chair just to wake us up a bit.” Carried.

Minutes read of open meeting of June 16th Pro. C. Barrow & Sec. A. Pearce. “That they be accepted as a true record."

Pro. T. W. Hatcher, Sec. J. Smith. "That William Smith be a member of the Society, Carried. Pro. T. W. Hatcher, Sec. that William Goldsmith be a member of the Society.” Carried.

Bro. J. Smith explained the Benevolent Call Fund, its objects and what to pay and urged our members to take up same.

Bro. T.W. Hatcher in a few remarks explained the Pension Fund and asked for our support for same by returning him & Bro. J. Enves as Delegates.

Pro. by Bro. W. Smith, Sec. by Bro. C. Barrow that Bro. F. Wilmshurst attends a Conference to discuss the National Programme, Carried.

Pro. C. Barrow and Sec. A. Pearce that a vote of thanks be accorded to Bro. T.W. Hatcher for the able manner he conducted the meeting, Carried Unanimously.

The Newhaven Branch held it meetings in the White Hart Hotel from the 30th June, 1912, until the 28th December, 1924, when the 

Newhaven Branch relocated to the Newhaven Labour Club and the first meeting being held the 25th January 1925. The Branch 

remained there until its last meeting on the 8th September 1963.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday July 14th 1912

Bro. C. Barrow presiding

Minutes read of the last meeting, pro by Bro. A. Pearce & sec. W. Smith. “That they be accepted as a true record.

Delegate gave his report of the Conference held at Brighton on July 11th 1912.

Pro. Bro. C. Barrow & Sec. Bro. W. Smith.

That the Secretary write to the Corresponding Secretary disapproving of Eastbourne proposal of having four & four delegates to submit the programme before the Company and they thought it have been better to have had five A.S.L.E.F & three A.S.R.S. Men. Carried. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday July 28th 1912

C. Barrow presiding

Minutes read of the last meeting, pro. by Bro. A. Pearce & sec. by Bro. L. Lower. That they be accepted as a true record.

Letter read from Brighton re 4 & 4 to submit the National Programme, and it was agreed that the Secretary write to Brighton supporting their proposal.

Cleaners Lobby came up for discussion, Pro. by A. Pearce & Sec. By L. Lower. 

That it stand over to the next meeting when we hoped to have moved there. Carried.

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 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on the Sunday October 20th 1912

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Letters read from Brighton & Battersea, re better Conditions for Loco-men.

3 days Holidays with pay each year, 10 per cent drivers making 20 per cent to receive.

Drivers when Fireman to receive 5/- a day. First year Driving 6/-, 2nd 6/6.

Passed Fireman when in the Shed to receive 3/3 per day. First year firing 3/9 2nd 4/-, 4th 4/3, an additional 10 per cent making 20 per cent to receive 4/9 per day.

Increases in pay to start from Friday Sept. 27 from, Holiday from Oct 1^st 1912.

Bro. L. Lower proposed & Bro. A. Pearce Seconded. 

That this branch express their obligation for their able manner in which they brought about such a successful settlement and think that we should not have gain any more through the Conciliation Board.

Bro. W. Smith proposed & Bro. H. Bowden seconded as an amendment. 

That was not satisfied with settlement and thought it ought to have gone to the Conciliation Board as he thought we should have got a weeks holiday and 4/9 for all fireman.

For the amendment 2, against 5, the amendment was lost.

Election of Organising Secretary to stand over, minutes read of last meeting, pro. A. Pearce & sec. H. Bowden. That they be accepted as a true record.

Pro. C. Barrow & Sec. A. Pearce. That this Branch does not think it will be any good having an open meeting for we shall get all the members we are gaining to get without a meeting. Carried.

Letter read from Brighton re Passed Fireman passes, also list of grievances. Pro. H. Bowden & Sec. W. Goldsmith. That the Secretary take up with Brighton Bro. J. Green. Holiday pass also Cleaners Lobby, and 8/- for drivers.

Pro. C. Barrow & Sec. A. Pearce. That Fredderick Charles Harris be a member of the Society.

Pro. H. Bowden & Sec W. Goldsmith. That Frederick Seager Sherwin be a member of the Society. Carried.

Voting paper for Organising Secretary filled up. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the Co operative Hall on Sunday Dec. 1st 1912

When a good muster was present to hear the report of Bro. Enves & Smith, re the recent concessions granted by the Directors.

Pro. By Bro. F. Smith & Sec. By Bro. C. Barrow. That Mr. Warwick be Chairman. Carried.

Mr. Warwick in a few remarks said no doubt the men knew what had been granted and he gave a brief outline how the concessions were brought about and said it he would ask Bro. Enves to give his report.

Bro. Enves dwelt with some length reading the correspondence that had passed between the deputation and the Officials and then gave his report of the meeting with the Board of Directors and said they were meeting Mr. Billinton to discuss certain points that they were not satisfied with 8/ for Drivers 4/9 for Firemen and holidays for Passed Cleaners also passes for Firemen.

Bro. Smith said he did not think he could say any more than what Bro. Enves had said but he felt confident that when they went next time they would get a weeks holidays and thanked all present for their support and hoped they do the same next time as they need not be afraid as the Officials did not look at the signatures.

Mr. Warwick then made a few remarks with regards to concessions of other railways and said the Company worked on a basis one with another and said he did not think the Company had given much away as his opinion was that the loco-men were the back bone of the Company and urged all men to belong to their own Organisation they could demand what they wanted.

Several questions were asked and answered in a most able manner by the Chairman and he said he hoped he would be able to come and see them again, this brought to a close a very successful meeting when Bro. F. Wilmshurst proposed a vote of thanks to the Chairman Seconded by A. Pearce. Mr. Warwick replied and proposed a vote of thanks to Bro. Enves & Smith, seconded by A.G. Wise. Bros. Enves & Smith replied.

* See District Organiser W. Warwick report below

(February’s 1913, Locomotive Journal)

The Locomotive Journal.

DECEMBER 1912

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Victoria to Newhaven Continental Boat Train   

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan. 12th 1913

Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Harris & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

 it was proposed by Bro. F. Harris & seconded by Bro. W. Smith. 

That this branch express it dissatisfaction at the way the Company are imposing upon the men re coupling engines and pledge their support to the delegate in their endeavour to stop it.

LOCOMOTIVE JOURNAL

FEBRUARY 1913

Extracted from A.S.L.E.F. Organising Secretary W. Warwick's report

on his visit to the Newhaven Branch meeting, on Sunday, 1st December, 1912

The following morning, Sunday, I was astir betimes in order to leave for Newhaven, where an open meeting was called in the afternoon to hear reports from two delegates, who, with others, had waited on the directors of the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway. The concessions granted compare favourably with what have been granted by other companies, but the question is : what have we to compare with ? On the strength of the promise by the Government after August, 1911, that they would be allowed to recoup themselves from the pockets of the public for concessions granted, the railway companies have doled out a few meagre improvements, amounting in some instances to one shilling per week, or two-pence per day—just on a par with what any shopkeeper would think of offering his errand boy—an insult to a body of men like the footplate, and motormen of this country. Then each railway company has been very careful not to out-do the others in these extravagant concessions, or do anything which could in any way be construed into a precedent, at the same time taking care to so jumble up conditions, wages, &c, that no two companies' men are receiving anything like the same remuneration for the same services performed. Of course, the astute official knows this gives him a fine trump card up his sleeve, so to speak, and while the men are content to approach them as particular companies they can always ring the changes on that card by asking the very innocent question: "What other company's men are there that are better paid than you are ? "

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 9th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Sherwin & sec. A. Pearce. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read re coupling up of engines being settled also promise from General Manager re loco-men for Motor jobs.

Letter read asking for grievances at this depot so as the grievance committee can take up same.

One member claimed suspension pay and a strong discussion took place on the same and seeing the members was of a mix feeling on the matter it was Proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin & Seconded by Bro. C. Barrow. 

That the Secretary be instructed to write to Brighton asking their ruling on the same.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 23rd 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. H. Bowden & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

Letter read from Brighton re grievance meeting.

Bro. Bowden paid one days suspension pay.

Voting paper to hand for A.G.M

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday May 4th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. H. Bowden & sec. F. Sherwin. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read from the delegation to the Officials, also reply from same dealing with the Electric question.

Report read from grievance committee re list of grievance settled

Letter of thanks from Eastbourne re A.G.M.

Secretary gave his report of delegates meetings. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 1st 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. A. Pearce & sec. W. Smith. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read and noted, discussion took place re oldest Fireman on passenger train and was decide that men affected see the Foreman.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 15th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, pro. F. Sherwin & sec. A. Pearce. That they accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read and noted. Voting paper for T.U.C. to hand.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on the Sunday September 28th 1913

 Bro. C. Barrow in the Chair

Correspondence read re Loco-men being paid for learning the electric in their own time.

Discussion took place re. Bro. W. Smith’s illness and it was decided to each pay 4 pence and clear his card and see what could be done with a substitution list later on.

Proposed by Bro. J. Green & Seconded Bro. A. Pearce. That Albert Simmonds be admitted as a member of this Society.

Bro. Goldsmith undertook to sell draw tickets in aid of the blind. 

Discussion took place regards clearing members card, Pro. C. Barrow & Sec. W. Smith. 

That a fund be raised to clear the same and that we pay half-penny per week and Bro. A. Pearce be collector.

 Questions then arose see we have Full & Half Benefit members how should clear cards. Pro. W. Smith & Sec. A. Pearce. That we should pay protection only of 4d. Carried.

Election of Officers

Pro. Bro. C. Barrow & sec. D. Boyle that A. Pearce be Chairman

Pro. Bro. D. Boyle & sec. J. Green that W. Smith be Vice Chairman

Pro Bro. C. Pearce & sec Bro. D. Boyle that F. Wilmshurst be Secretary

H. Bowden Check Steward.

Committee

F. Harris, F. Sherwin, J. Green, C. Barrow & D. Boyle, be on the Committee for 12 months.

 Minutes of the a Special Meeting Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday July 29th 1917

The meeting was called at the instructions of Head Office to discuss the National Programme and correspondence arising out of the same.

The Chairman being absent, it was proposed by Bro. Harris & seconded by Bro. Goldsmith. That Bro. A. Leonard take the Chair. Carried Unan.

Bro. Leonard in opening the meeting gave a very good report of the open meeting held at Brighton on the 22nd and enlightened the membership very much, the National Programme was fully discussed and correspondence arising out of the same from our E.C., and it was decided that the following resolution be sent to our E.C.,also to our Delegate (Bro. Niner St Leonards)

Pro. By A. Leonard & Sec by Bro. W. Smith. That we, the members of Newhaven Branch appreciate the endeavours of our E.C. In trying to improve the conditions of service of loco-men, and we hereby pledge our support in action it may be necessary to take in order to bring about the designed result, especially in regards to the eight hour question. Carried Unam.

Pro F. Harris & Sec. J. Green. That Edward Cyril Veverines be admitted as a member of this Society. Carried

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 3rd 1918

 Bro. W. Goldsmith in the the Chair

It was proposed by Bro. A. Leonard & sec. by Bro. C. Barrow. That C.H. Munn & J. Hillman be admitted  Cleaner members (Scale 6) Carried Unan.

The minutes of the last meeting were read and accepted as a true record,

Correspondence was read then dealt with, which included letter from the Secretary of the local Trades and Labour Council, with the result that members present decided that we as a Branch should become affiliated to this council. It was proposed by Bro. C. Barrow & sec. by Bro. H. Bowden. That Bro. W. Goldsmith be one delegate. Proposed by Bro. W. Goldsmith & sec. Bro. C. Barrow. That Bro. A Leonard be a delegate. It was proposed by H. Bowden & sec. by Bro. J. Newman. That Bro. C. barrow be a delegate substitute . Proposed by Bro. A Leonard & sec by Bro. H. Bowden. That Bro. F. Wilmshurst be a delegate substitute. Carried/   

Discussion then arose re the instructions of our Loco Foreman for men to book off under 10hrs. per day on certain turns, after some discussion it was decided that the Secretary should write to Bro. J. Enves Brighton on the subject.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday April 7th 1918

Our Chairman Bro. D. Boyle accepted the Chair, Bro. W. Goldsmith in Vice Chair.

The first item on the agenda was the mites of the previous meeting which were read and passed as correct.

Correspondence was dealt with on various subjects and discussion arose re the same, also the 10 hrs question, a suggestion was made as regards the meeting night it was thought by some members present that we should get  quite as present on a week night and it was thought advisable to give it a trial.

New members, Pro. by A. Leonard & Sec. by F. Sherwin. 

That Cleaners S. Lower, V.P. Bannister & A.S. Norman be admitted Cleaner members of this Society. Carried Unam.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 20th 1918

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair.

The minutes of the last meeting were read and passed as correct. 

Several items of correspondence were read, March Quarterly receipts presented, as this was the first meeting since the quarters dues were sent.

Bro. A. Leonard gave a brief report of the Trades & Labour Council meeting and asked for one delegate to be nominated to serve on the proposed Parliamentary and Local election committee, that was being formed. It was proposed by Bro. J. Rye & sec. by Bro. Bowden. That Bro. F. Wilmshurst should serve. Carried. Bro. A. Leonard pointed out that Bro. Wilmshurst was delegate substitute, and he did not know if it would be agreeable to the Trades Council, it was then proposed that if the nomination was not acceptable that Bro. A. Leonard should stand. Carried.

Nominations were asked for the Urban District Council, owing to the small number of members present it was decided not to nominate.

It was proposed that we should hold our two next meetings on week nights if could be arranged, to see if we could get a better attendance, to be held on Tuesdays if possible. 

Bro. A. Leonard proposed & Bro. Goldsmith seconded that Cleaner E. Collington become a Cleaner member. Carried.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Aug. 25th 1918

with Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

The minutes of the last meeting were read, it was proposed by Bro. Wilmshurst & sec by Bro. F. Sherwin. That they be passed as correct. Carried.

Correspondence were read which included papers from the Land Nationalisation Society, this matter was allowed to lay on the table.

A collection list was reined on behalf of Bro. G. Wilde, but there not any letter explaining, and this matter was left on over.

A letter was received from Bro. J. Enves with copy of letter from Mr. Jackson with regards to delegation business, the following resolution was passed in reference to the same. That this meeting considers Mr. Jackson's reply to the delegation very unsatisfactory, and urge the delegates to press for an interview with Mr. Jackson if unable to obtain the same, to ask for an interview with the Hon Board of Directors. Bro. J. Newman's case then discussed and the Secretary said that he was expecting an interview with Mr. Moore re the same, the meeting thought it advisable to write to Mr. Moore direct for an interview, and to leave the matter in the hands of the Secretary.Carried.

Bro. D Boyle who attend the Trades 7 Labour Council meeting held on August 8th owing to the unavoidable absence of delegates, the report was read, and it was considered by the members to be an exceptional good report

The Secretary read a copy of the alterations to the Benevolent Fund, & Protection Retiring & death Fund. Several members said they would join the new Assurance Fund, which was considered to be very good one new member admitted, one pleasing feature at this meeting was the attendance of some of our younger members which we hope will improve.

The Special collection on behalf of our Political Fund raised 3/-. Bro. F. Wilmshurst proposed & Bro. F. Harris scolded that Bro. F. Sherwin be Labour Council in place of Bro. C. Barrow. carried.

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Oct. 20th 1918

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair owing to the absence of our Chairman.

The first on the agenda was the minutes of the last meeting which were read and passed as correct.

Correspondence was dealt with which included circular letters from Head office re the recent War wage increase, and the recent Railway strike, which explained the position of our members in reference to the same. Copy of report of Delegation meeting with our Officials at Brighton L. Billinton Esq., J.M. Jackson & E.S. Moore, was received from Bro. J. Enves. The various items were discussed and the question of calling an open meeting in reference to the same. It was advised that the Secretary should write bro. J. Enves for further information in regards to the questions which had been brought up at the delegates meeting at Brighton, especially referring to the 8 hours per day and transfer of loco-men to the electric system, also with regards to the question of seniority, the question was also raised about making an application to be allowed to join the 1^st class of the Company's Pension Fund, and it was pointed out that some men at the present time did not avail themselves to go into higher scales which they were entitled to. The Secretary gave a report of an interview he had with Mr. Richardson at Brighton re Bro. Newman's case.

 Minutes of the Open Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Nov. 3rd 1918

To discuss report of delegates meeting with Loco Officials at Brighton. There was a fair attendance of members also some N.U.R. members, it was agreed that Bro. A. Leonard should act as Chairman. 

The correspondence was then read and considerable discussion arose on various points raised. It was agreed that the 8 hour per day work would be very acceptable if it could be obtained, but doubt was expressed as to it success at the present time.

Re transfer of Loco men to electric, the men thought that the older men who were displace should have the opportunity of transferring to the electrics without loss of pay. The men considered that to be a question to be dealt with by the General Manager on the Hon. Board of Directors, as regards seniority the men were of the opinion that seniority should could from the Fireman, a man was passed as fireman. 

Re Pension Fund the men thought that if the pension age was brought down to 60 years instead of 65 as at present, would encourage men to go into the higher scales, the men present said that it would be a good thin if we were enabled to transfer to the 1st class, 

The men present at the meeting expressed opinion that it would be more satisfactory if a delegate who was present came and gave report of the interview.

Meeting closed about 8.45. 

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Open Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Dec. 1st 1918

In reference to correspondence received from Head Office re 8hr negotiations, also re local matters that involved alteration. Dealing with the 8hr question it was proposed by Bro F. Sherwin and Seconded by W. Smith. That Bro. A. Leonard be delegate to the District Council meeting if convened (Carried). The question of pilot men being booked on short hours on Saturdays to bring men on at 11.30 p.m. Saturday nights and causing these to work 11 to 11 ½ hours, the greater paid which was worked on Sunday,also men being booked on 10 hr days on Sundays, these matters were discussed and it was proposed that the care should be put before Mr. Moore. It was proposed by Bro. W. Goldsmith & Seconded by F. Sherwin. That the Secretary write to Mr. Moore asking him to grant an interview to Bro. F. Wilsmhurst and A. Leonard in respect of the same (Carried Unanimous). There being a further meeting at the Co-op Hall under the auspices of the Local Trades & Labour Council for the adoption of a Labour Candidate for Lewes division, the men present were invited to attend.

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 Minutes of the Newhaven Open Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Dec. 8th 1918

 Bro. F. Wilmshurst in the Chair

On the instructions from Head Office, to hear report and receive instruction re the 8hr movement. 

Correspondence was first dealt with and Bro. Leonard who was elected delegate to the District Council member gave report of the meeting held at the Labour Institute, Fort Road, Bermondsey on Fri Dec. 6th 1918 our delegate said that Bro W. Stevenson our E.C. Member came to the delegate meeting after been negotiating with the government. He pointed out how Sir A Stanley had tried to get the question put off until after the election, our E.C. would not have it, and informed Sir A. Stanley that our men not wait until March for the 8hr to be brought into operation. Sir A. Stanley eventually agreed to meet our E.C. At Manchester & London and that they had agreed on Feb 1st 1919. after hearing the report of our delegate the following resolution was passed. That this open meeting for loco-men sincerely appreciates the firm stand made by the E.C. Of the A.S.L.E. & F. in their demand for the redemption of the pledge given to them by the Government in August 1917, which has resulted in the obtaining for Loco-men the 8hr per day.Moved by Bro. W. Goldsmith & Sec. Bro. J. Rye.

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  Minutes of the Newhaven Further Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Dec. 8th 1918

Bro. F. Wilmshurst in the Chair

Dealing with Branch business. The minutes of the Special and Ordinary meetings were read and passed correct.

Correspondence dealt with and arising out of that it was moved by Bro. J. Green & sec. F. Sherwin. That a letter be sent to Mr. Moore withdrawing our application for an interview as matters have been rectified. Carried Unam.

The rest of business was the election of Officers for 1919.

Proposed by Bro. W. Goldsmith & sec. F. Sherwin. That Bro. J. Giles be Check Stewart.

Proposed W. Goldsmith & sec. F. Sherwin. That we get the Organising Secretary for Open Meeting Carried

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 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch a Special Meeting

held at the White Hart on Thursday Jan. 9th 1919

The meeting was called to discuss the situation caused by the strike at Brighton also in reference to loco-me having to go to Lewes to do work of the men that was on strike, also to get the views of the men in reference to these items, so that it could be understood by the other unions whether we were prepared to give support or not.

Bro. W. Goldsmith was elected to the Chair. 

A letter was read from the Brighton Strike Committee also telegram which was discussed, re telegram was also read from Head Office instructing members to keep at work and not to refuse duty. 

Bro. Leonard gave a report of meetings, which had been called for all Trade Unionists, after discussion it was moved by Bro. Stoner & Sec. Bro. Barber. 

That this meeting decided to stand by our E.C. and take no part in the present strike. (Carried Unam.).

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan. 26th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

The minutes of the previous meetings read and passed correct.

Correspondence dealt with which included items from District council, one received from Brighton Branch stating they had elected Bro. H. Funnell for their representative on the District Council, after some discussion it was proposed by Bro. Wilmshurst & sec. W. Smith.

That while we agree to Brighton sending a representative, at the present time that the smaller branches who are grouped with Brighton should have the opportunity of sending a delegate alternately (Carried Unam).

December Quarterly returns presented, the Secretary explained why the receipt did not correspond with the account sent to Head Office, it was owing to the ft the entrance fees to the new Assurance Fund had been entered in the column for Society Int Fees, and the Secretary said that he had instructions that it was not to be entered there in the future, also that money for the Branch Fund was not to be deducted from the quarterly dues, but a claim sent to Head Office for same. The members present accept the Secretary’s statement. It was moved by Bro. F. Wilmshurst & sec. by  Bro. W. Goldsmith (Trustees for Branch Fund). That the Secretary hold the balance of fund 1/6/. Carried.

Bro. W. Goldsmith gave report of Trades & Labour Council meeting.

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This photo was probably taken in c1919, when double manning of locos were introduce as a result of the introduction of the eight hour day being implemented. Each loco prior to 1919 had one dedicated driver and after 1919 the loco was shared between to dedicated drivers. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch a Special Meeting

held at the White Hart on Thursday February 6th 1919

Owing to the Secretary having received a letter from the General Secretary calling our members out in support of the Electric Motormen who were on strike over the question of food time during the 8 hour day. 

Brother F. Sherwin was in the chair and a fair number of members present including two N.U.R. Loco-men, after correspondence had been read and telegrams from Brighton Branch. 

Some discussion took place, and the Secretary reed rule 24 to the members. It was moved by Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Seconded by A. Stoner. 

That meetings be held at 12 noon at the White Hart (Carried Unam) 

Strike Committee:- Bros. A. Leonard, F. Sherwin, W. Goldsmith, Proposed by F. Wilmshurst & Seconded W. Goldsmith. That F. Harris be on Committee. Pro. F. Wilmshurst & Sec. F. Harris that H.G. Bowden be on the Committee (Carried Unam.). 

The Secretary stated that he received the letter on Wednesday afternoon not in time to arrange for meeting the same day, and that he see our Chairman and Bro. Wilmshurst in reference to it, and that they agreed that if called upon to do duty on the next day other than their booked turn of duty they would refuse, it happened on Thursday morning that our Secretary was called upon to work a passenger train usually worked by Brighton men and he had refused to work it, but finished his own turn of duty.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 9th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin was in the Chair

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 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday April 18th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

The minutes of the last meeting was and passed as correct.

Correspondence dealt with, quarterly receipts presented.

Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Bro. W. Smith seconded. 

That this Branch Secretary records its appreciation of the E.C. And the General Secretary for the able way in which they have conducted negotiations on our behalf (Carried Unam.). 

Two cases were dealt with Bros. J. Giles & A.G. Hubbard the members suspended made a statement to the meeting, after which Bro. Wilmshurst proposed & Bro. C. Barrow seconded. That the claim be allowed (carried Unam.).

Bro. A. Leonard proposed & F. Wilmshurst seconded. That Frederick Edward Brown and Edward Hillman become protected members of this Society. Carried

Bro. F. Wilmshurst moved & Bro. C. Barrow seconded. 

That a letter be sent to the Foremen, in regards to the reduction of work at this depot, and men being still employed here who have been transferred from other depots (Carried Unam.). 

Pro. By C. Barrow seconded by A. Pearce. 

That Bro. F. Wilmshurst should write the letter and hand same to Mr. Holton, the signatures of all spare Drivers at the meeting to attached to the letter, also years of service.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch

a Special Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday May 18th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Bro. F. Sherwin said that the meeting was called to appoint a Secretary in place of Bro. A. Leonard expecting to return to Tunbridge Wells. Pro. By A. Pearce & Seconded J. Green. 

That F. Wilmshurst be Secretary till end of year. Bro. Wilmshurst said he would accept the office but would like to see someone else take it as he did not like the idea of keep changing as would resign at the end of the year.

Minutes read of last meeting moved. Pro. A. Pearce & seconded Bro. C. Barrow. That the minutes be adopted. Correspondence read, questions were asked the question. Bro. F. Wilmshurst asked the question, seeing that the late Secretary thought that three was long enough for an answer to our letter and pressed us to go further on the question of his removal did not think that seeing he had a reply two weeks it was quite long enough. Bro. A. Leonard replied and stated that he was waiting for a reply from his letter asking on what conditions he was returning to Tunbridge Wells but was going to see if he could get a indication on Monday. After a strong discussion it was moved C. Barrow & seconded J. Green. That we wait and see what becomes of the interview. 

Bro. A. Leonard as asked for one new member. Moved F. Wilmshurst & second F. Sherwin a vote of thanks be recorded to our late Secretary. Carried.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 29th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair 

Minutes of the last meeting was read, proposed by Bro. F. goldsmith and seconded by Bro. C.J. Lower, that they be adopted.

Correspondence was read and the following resolution was proposed by H. G Bowden & seconded by M. Smith. 

That having discussed the reply received from the General Manager we are of the opinion that the reply is not satisfactory and press on our E.C. To press the matter further with a view to all men leaving the Company Service to start at the bottom of the ladder we pledge our support to the E.C. To get satisfaction. Carried

Bro. Hubbard complained of having to coal engines at cleaners rate of pay also having to help coaling after doing a nights cleaning after a discussion it was proposed by Bro. G Hubbard seconded by C.J. Lower that the Secretary take the matter up with the Loco Foreman. Carried.

Brothers Bowden and Smith complained of being kept firing and other men making overtime when they could have been driving, also still being retained on the goods were they cannot be got at when required. Pro Bro. H.G. Bowden & Sec Bro. W. Smith. Secretary take up with Loco Foreman on the matter. Carried. 

Two new members.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday August 10th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes of the last meeting was read, proposed by Bro. A. Pearce and seconded by Bro. M. Smith, that they be adopted. Discussion on the minutes took place and the Secretary gave a brief report of his interview with the Loco Foreman. Carried.

Numerous correspondence was read out and discussed, March quarterly receipts presented.

A strong discussion took place regards the work at this depot through the 8 hours and that we have several spare men. It was proposed by A. Pearce & seconded by H.G. Bowden. 

That the Secretary take up the Loco foreman and see if he could get more turns of duty at this depot. Carried. 

Proposed by M. Smith & seconded by A. Pearce. That William Brown be admitted as a member of this Society.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Monday Sept. 29th 1919

Minutes of last meeting read and confirmed, discussion took place on the last minutes regards more work at this depot. Secretary replied and gave his report regards his interview with the Foreman.

Letter read from Secretary of Brighton Branch and was received with some strong remarks after a strong discussion it was proposed that the Secretary take up with Brighton Branch & Head Office regards the same. 

Rule 24 discussed regards Strike pay as all men out in support of the cause.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Oct 19th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

The Chairman gave a report on the question of putting engines away and said he had an interview with the Foreman on the question and said he had booked a pair of men on the night shift and would start the day shift when he had the men.

Letters from Head Office read re the Strike also agenda for A.A.D. discussed.

Secretary asked for two delegates to attend Labour conference to be held at the Co operative Hall, Nov. 8th at 2.30p.m. 

Bro. A. Pearce proposed and Bro. M. Smith seconded that the Secretary attended. Carried

Bro. L. Lower proposed and Bro. C. Wood seconded that the Chairman attend. Carried

Bro. M. Smith proposed and Bro. A. Pearce seconded. That Bro. H Bowden be a sub delegate in case the others could not attended. Carried

Bro. H. bowden proposed and Bro. C. Wood seconded that Bro. A. Pearce be a sub delegate. Carried

Bro. W. Goldsmith made a strong appeal to the members present to pay the Rule 11 Levy.

A strong discussion took place in regards to changing our meeting place and it was decided to see if we could not find another room, the matter to up next meeting.    

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Dec 14th 1919

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting,proposed by Bro. M. Smith and seconded by Bro. D. Boyle. That they be passed as correct. Carried

A strong discussion took place arising out of the minutes with regards the moving of our Branch Room, when it was moved by D. Boyle & seconded by L. Lower that we stop at the same place. Carried.

could not attended. Carried

Bro. H. Bowden proposed and Bro. C. Wood seconded that Bro. A. Pearce be a sub delegate. Carried

Bro. W. Goldsmith made a strong appeal to the members present to pay the Rule 11 Levy.

A strong discussion took place in regards to changing our meeting place and it was decided to see if we could not find another room, the matter to up next meeting.    

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan 4th 1920

Bro. F. Sherwin took the Chair

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Aug 1st 1920

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. D. Boyle and seconded by Bro. A. Pearce. That minutes be accepted.

Correspondence read and noted reply from Mr. Billinton received it stating that Bro. G. Hubbard claim would be paid.

A discussion took place on the question of a rate driver doing shed duties also sending to Brighton for drivers when we had drivers when it was moved by Bro. A. Pearce & seconded by Bro. D. Boyle. That the Secretary write to Mr. Billinton calling his attention to same after a heated discussion it was proposed that we approach the Foreman first and if it was not stopped to lay the case direct to Brighton.

Receipt for June quarter read and noted.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Sept 3rd 1920

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting, moved Bro. D. Boyle and seconded by Bro. P. Reed. That minutes be accepted. Questions arising out of the minutes was asked, Secretary replied.

Correspondence was read and noted.

Bro. C. Lower raised the question of spare firemen being paid three hours for washing out also Cleaners washing out for Cleaners pay, after a discussion it was decided that the Secretary write to Head Office for information.

Bro G. Hubbard informed the Branch that he had received the back money for doing coal man wok for which he thanked them.

One new member. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Oct 3rd 1920

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting was rearm moved by Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. J. Green. That minutes be accepted.

Discussion arising out of the minutes re cleaners washing out and reply from Head Office was read after some discussion it was moved by P. Reed & seconded by J. Green. 

That Secretary take up with Brighton on the matter. Secretary replied and moved as an amendment that each member make out an application for his back pay by doing so he thought it would be the means of getting higher grade thats the same as the traffic. Carried.

Bro. G. Hubbard brought up the question of getting his money and said he thought there ought to be some arrangements made to get the same. After some discussion it was decided to let it stand over till next meeting, but Bro. Hubbard was advised to apply at the Marine Shops on Friday for his money.

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Moved by Bro. F. Harris & seconded by Bro. P. Reed. That he thought that we ought to apply for a sheet for tender first working, after a discussion it was decided to let it stand over till next meeting when normal working may be started.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan. 23rd 1921

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting was read, moved by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. J. Giles. That minutes be accepted.

Correspondence from Head Office was read and discussed

A strong discussion took place on the question of appointing delegates to work with the N. U. R. on a Shed Committee That Bros. A. Pearce, F. Wilmshurst, & F. Sherwin stand for Shed Committee.

A discussion then took place on the question of the number seeing that the N.U.R. had elected three and we had got the majority we ought to have more. Moved by F. Harris & seconded by P. Reed. That we elect four. Carried. Moved  by F. Brown & Seconded by J. Thompsett. That Bro. T. Denman stand. Carried.

Meeting closed with 27 present

the best meeting we have had

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Feb 10th 1921

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting read and discussed, moved by Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. F. Harris. That they be accepted as a true record. Carried.

Letter read from the N.U.R. Re Shed Committee and after a strong discussion it was moved by Bro. F. Harris & Seconded by Bro. P. read. That we accept the resolution of January 16^th of joint meeting and that Bro. T. Denman be asked to stand down from Shed Committee. Carried.

Correspondence from Head Office in regards the shooting of railway men in Ireland and the E.C. Decision to withdraw its members. A strong discussion ensued when it was moved by Bro. W. Goldsmith & seconded by Bro. F. Harris. 

That this Branch gives their support to our E.C. In any action they may take in this fight for justice. 

Bro. C. Barrow moved as an amendment & Bro. A. Pearce seconded. 

That seeing that there was so much out of work that we wait and see what other branches was going to do. on the vote be taken the amendment was carried.

This closed the meeting with 24 being present which goes to show that the members are taking more interest in the work of their branch.

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 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Aug 29th 1921

Bro. F. Sherwin in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting was read and discussed, moved by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. H. Bowden. That minutes be adopted. Carried.

Correspondence was read from Head Office and dismissal, discussion took place over the dismissal of Bro. H. Cotlington. Secretary explained what action he had taken and also read a reply from Mr. Billinton respecting the same. After a long discussion it was moved by Bro. P. Reed & seconded by Bro. A. Rookley. 

That Secretary take up with the Shed Committee to see if anything more could be done.

Bro. E. Brooks asked if something could be done to stop the goods men going on the pilots and making overtime. Secretary explained that it was a matter for the Shed Committee.

Moved by Bro. H. Bowden & sec. By Bro. E. Brooker. 

That Secretary lay the matter before Shed Committee as soon as possible. Carried.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Feb 26th 1922

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read of the last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. C. Barrow. That they be adopted.

Correspondence read from Head Office dealing with increase contributions and benefit for Cleaners, also resolution from Head Office dealing with the discharge of Cleaners.

Circular read from E. C. calling on all members to a levy to build up a fighting fund.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 26th 1922

 Bro. A Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. D. Boyle and seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That minutes be accepted.

Correspondence read from Head Office and discussed.

The Secretary explained the working of the Railway Councils and asked every member to there own member.

Letter read from Labour Party, asking this Branch to become affiliated to same. 

Secretary explained  that this Society did not allow any funds for Labour purposes only Trades and Labour Councils, and if  they wanted to be become affiliated they must find the money. After a long discussion it was moved by Bro. D. Boyle and seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin.

That Secretary send 5/- to the Labour Party and the members collect same amongst themselves. Carried

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 25th 1922

 Bro. A Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. D. Boyle. That minutes be accepted. Carried

Correspondence read from Head Office and discussed.

Discussion took place in regards taking away three turns from this depot, after a lengthy discussion and several members had expressed their views, it was moved by Bro. H. Bowden & seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. 

That Secretary appeals to Brighton through the local Foreman, asking them to consider this depot with a view of more work here. Carried

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   Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Sept 24th 1922

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read from last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. H. Christmas. That minutes be accepted. carried.

Correspondence read from Head Office re certain company reducing cleaners wages, which was discussed.

Letter read from Secretary of Sectional Council re supply of summer & winter cap discussion took place when it was moved by Bro. P. Reed & seconded by Bro F. Sherwin. That we accept the cap as per agreement. Carried.

Letter read from Brighton Branch asking us to arrange open meeting, Secretary stated he had wrote to Brighton stating that it was not convenient for us to arrange a meeting, but would arrange for a party to come over to Brighton.

Moved by Bro. D. Boyle & seconded by Bro. H. Bowden that the Secretary's action be endorsed. Carried.

Complaint was raised in regards to washing out, and after a lengthy discussion it was moved by Bro W. Niner & seconded by Bro. H. Bowden. 

That Secretary take up with the Foreman with a view of the Senior Firemen doing washing out. Carried.

Complaint was raised in regards to the 8 spare Fireman turns caused some plain speaking and heated arguments the Secretary pointed out they would loose their firing. It was moved by Bro. C. Barrow & seconded by Bro. A. Rookley. 

That the Secretary take up with foreman with a view of getting the spare fireman to work in gangs senior fireman to work in each gang. carried.

Also that Cleaners be put up on the list for duty. Carried.

Complaint was raised in regards to the state of the sanitary pans and also the lockers. moved by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded by D. Boyle.

That Secretary take the matter up. Carried

Meeting closed about 9.0 .p.m., there being a good muster present and the best meeting the history of the Branch.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Oct 29th 1922

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. W. Goldsmith and seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That minutes be accepted. Carried. Questions was raised arising out of the minutes.The Secretary explained his interview with the Foreman.

Bro. G. Bollen spoke in the question of grouping the spare Firemen and said he was not satified with the way it was working. The Secretary stated he could not understand the working after a long discussion it was moved by Bro. G. Bollen & seconded by Bro. J. Hillman. That it be left in the hands of the Secretary. Carried.

Correspondence read from Head Office re Conditions of Service which was discussed at some length moved by Bro. W. Goldsmith & seconded by Bro. D. Boyle. That this Branch express their confidence in our E.C. In any action that might might take. Carried.

The matter of Cleaners getting in firebox came up for discussion moved by Bro. W. Brown & seconded by Bro. B. Piddlesden. That Secretary take the matter up with the Foreman. Carried.

Meeting closed about 8.45 a good muster present

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Nov. 23rd 1922

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, moved by Bro. L. lower and seconded by Bro. W. Goldsmith. That minutes be accepted. Carried. Questions was asked arising out of the minutes. Secretary explained his interview with the Foreman regarding spare Firemen’s turns of duty, also Cleaners doing the Boat Engine’s firebox.

Bros. W. Goldsmith and A. Rookley were elected as delegates for the Trade and Labour.

Election of Officers for 1923 took place when the following members were elected.

Chairman Bro. W. Goldsmith

Vice Chair Bro. L. Lower

Secretary Bro. D. Boyle

Asst Sec Bro. F. Wilmshurst

Committee  Bros. F. Sherwin, C. Barrow, C. Dotterill, W. Brown, W. Terrill & M. Smith 

Trustees Bros. A. Pearce & G. Bollen

Discussion took place regards to the brake power on the 5.52.p.m. goods, moved by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded by Bro. H. Bowden. The Secretary take the matter up. Carried

The sum of 8/6 was collected for the Trades and Labour Whist Driver.

Meeting closed about 8.45.p.m. and nice muster present.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan 7th 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. L. Lower. That they be accepted as a true record. Carried

Correspondence read and noted, Branch endorsing action taken by our E.C.

Annual report of Newhaven and District Trades and Labour Council, read.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Jan 28th 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. P. Reed. That they be accepted as a true record. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. F. Wilmshurst and seconded by Bro. W. Niner. That Branch heartily agree with the endeavours of E.C. 

Proposed By Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Seconded by Bro. W. Niner. That Bro R. Niner approach the Foreman in connection in his position at this depots failing satisfaction, to place in hands of Secretary

Proprosed By Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Seconded by R. Turner. That foreman be approached in connection with passes for spare Firemen

Proposed By Bro. H.G. Bowden & seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That Brighton be approached for more turns to be worked from here seeing the displacement of men, owing to the withdrawal of two turns.

Proposed By Bro. F. Wilmshurst & seconded by L. Lower. Secretary write Head Office for a fuller understanding of working of Seniority.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Feb 25th 1923

Bro. L. Lower in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and discussed, proposed by Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. C. Barrow. That they be accepted. Carried. Matters arising out of the minutes were, letter to Brighton requesting more turns read Jan 29^th no rely being received it was Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow & Seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That we await developments. Carried

Letters read from Head Office with the application of the Seniority clause at this depot, Feb 19^th 1923, which gave use to much dissatisfied comment, and marked no further progress.

Executive Committee report and minutes for period December 4th 1922 - January 26th 1923 presented, also agenda of suggestions submitted by Branches for the Annual Assembly of Delegates, which is to be held at General Office, 9 Arkwright Road, Hampstead, NW3, on May 28th at 2.30.p.m. presented. 

conjunction with Church of England Men’s Society with a view to organising a Church parade on March 25th to raise funds for local distress.

Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That we hold our annual dinner on Good Friday, March 30th at 6p.m. Carried

Proposed By Bro. C. Dotteral and seconded that Bro. C. Barrow. That Bro. D. Boyle be Secretary and that Bros. W. Goldsmith, F. Wilmshurst, L. Lower, C. Dotteral & C. Barrow, constitute a committee, the secretary to post a notice announcing same and that it be a cold spread.

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 25th 1923

Bro. L. Lower in the Chair

Minutes read of last meeting and briefly discussed, proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. P. Reed. That they be accepted. Carried.

Circular 15th March, 1923 read re front end electric train read.

Meeting closed about 8.0 p.m. about 6 members present

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday May 6th 1923

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting read and discussed, proposed by Bro. F. Wilmshurst and seconded Bro. P. Reed. That they be accepted. Carried.

Circular letters 23^rd April re link to link seniority and general conditions of service read discussed.

Proposed by F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. M. Smith. 

That meetings be held at noon during summer months.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 24th 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Minutes of last meeting read and discussed which were accepted as a true record on the proposition of  - Bro. P. Reed and seconded by Bro. M. Smith and carried.

Letter of invitations to meetings read from Tunbridge Wells & Brighton.

Secretary instructed to write Brighton requesting extra duties, which was proposed by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. P. Reed and carried unanimously.

Also to write Barton Wilde re passes for passed Cleaners, on the proposition of W. Brown & seconded by B. Piddlesden. Carried Unan.

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Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday Aug 26th 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Minutes of the last meeting read and discussed and were accepted as a true record on the propostition of F. Sherwin & Seconded by Bro. H .Bowden and Carried. 

The Vice Chairman at this point in the proceedings (who with a few others has come late) on looking through the minutes alleged that they were not a true record because his name had been erroneously recorded as the prospect of that the Secretary should request the management for more turns of duty at this depot and to prevent a future recurrence.

Bro. L. Lower proposed & seconded by Bro. M. Smith. That a member take his seat by the Secretary as check against such absorb inaccuracies to be dealt with more fully at the next meeting.

Proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin & seconded by C. Dotterill. 

That a special meeting be called on the 2nd September to deal with Secretary resignation and to clear the matter up.

Correspondence read and fully discussed, no further response to Daily Hearld appeal.

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Special Meeting

   Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Quarterly Meeting

   Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Special Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday 18^th Nov 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Owing to the N.U.R. Propaganda among our younger members it was considered by members of the Branch committee to be desirable that the above meeting be held to review the position.

In the course of the debate Bro. Bollen informed that there must be a leakage of our Branch proceedings, for he had been told by an N.U.R. Man:- apparently with the view to elating further information:- that it was only possible for spare drivers to secure a hearing, cleaners being ignored, also that there had been an endeavour by some N.U.R. Members to create dissension among the younger members of this Branch of twisting a certain indiscretion of our late Secretary apparently, calculating, that (in addition to the alleged attitude of spare drivers) it would give some of our members:- especially the younger ones, the impression that no interest was taken in their welfare and if they would but join the N.U.R. They would be much better cared for Bro. F. Brown corroborated, being present and culminating in an attack upon the discretion of the E.C. In matters of A.S.L.E. & F & C. finance in pamphlet form. Bro. G. Bollen proposed & Bro. E. Brooker. That the Secretary endeavour to secure the pamphlet re the financial position of A.S.L.E.F. & C. known to be floating about with a view to enlightenment of members. Bro. F. Brown spoke against the distribution of pamphlets by A.S.L.E.F. & C.

The Secretary mentioned writing of the N.U.R. In connection with the recent activities of their members but Bro. C. Barrow & Bro. A. Pearce spoke against, it being considered that it would only add to the difficulties of the young Firemen when booked with the others. All agreed.

Considerable discussion took place around the question of pamphlets & Chairman requested Secretary to give our financial position and in reply read the prologue to 1922 balance sheet.

The Chairman proposed, after considerable discussion of the redistribution of night and day work for cleaners that Bros C. Wilson, W. Brown & G. Bollen form a small committee to deal with the matter and report back.

Bro. S. Lower spoke on the unequal distribution of Sunday work. 

Pro. By Bro. S. Lower & Sec. A.Charman. That Sunday duty be shared by the whole of the staff. Carried. Secretary to approach Foreman. Carried.

Pro. By F. Brown & Sec. By B. Piddlesden. That Secretary see Foreman to try to get more men passed. Carried. Also to inquire into position of cleaners doing Fireman’s work. Carried.

The Chairman rose and stated that he was overruled by the Branch after placing that position before them. Bro. L. Lower supported the Chair.

Minutes of the Newhaven Annual Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday 25^th Nov 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Members present 

Bros. D. Boyle, W. Goldsmith, L. Lower, P. Reed, C. Barrow, A. Pearce, A. Charman, C. Jenner, B. Piddlesden, 

G. Bollen, C. Wilson, C. Dotterill, F. Wilmshurst, F. Sherwin & H. Bowden 

Minutes of 28th Oct meeting read and discussed, proposed by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That they be accepted as a true record. Carried

Matters arising out of the minutes of Oct. 28th. Bro. P. Reed’s motion of Sept. 30th, Secretary reported that as clothing was dealt with annually now and not monthly. Bro. H. Hamblin would receive his arrears with his next issue.

Correspondence read and noted.

Minutes of special meeting 18^th Nov 23, moved by Bro. A. Pearce & Sec. By Bro. W. Brown. That they accepted as a true record. Carried.

Matters arising out of above minutes, Bro F. Wilmshurst called the branch in not electing Shed Committee to interview Foreman. Bro. F. Sherwin backed Bro. F. Wilmshurst and spoke on the report floating around to the effect that it was only possible for spare drivers to obtain a hearing Bro. Bollen referred to the N.U.R. Slander of our Branch.

Bro. F. Wilmshurst asked Secretary for report of his interview with the Foreman re Bro W. Goldsmith being employed cleaning on a Sunday, as he believed there had been an interview.

The secretary stated the case as presented by the Foreman, which was to the effect, that he could not see any reason why this man should not be so employed, otherwise he had nothing to do and seeing that he received his proper rate of pay, instead of a Cleaners rare, he considered there to be no case. 

Pro Bro F. Wilmshurst & Sec. Bro. A. Pearce. That the Shed Committee take the matter up. Carried.

Bro. C. Barrow complained of propelling vehicles from Newhaven Town to Newhaven Harbour and moved that the matter be put in the hands on Shed Committee, Seconded by Bro. A. Pearce.

Bro. Bollen presents his report and schedule of proposed Cleaners duty and considers 1.0 p.m. to 10.0 p.m. Unnecessary, but agrees to withdraw for further consideration.

Election of Officers for 1924

Proposed by Bro. F. Harris and seconded by Bro. H. Bowden thatBro. F. Wilmshurst take the Chair. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. H. Bowden and seconded by Bro. A. Pearce. That Bro. W. Goldsmith take Vice Chair. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. F. Harris and seconded by Bro. A Pearce. That Bro. F. Sherwin take the Secretaryship. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded by Bro. L. Lower. That Bro. W. Brown be Assistant Secretary, and that Bros. C. Jenner, C. Dotterill, L. Lower, C. Barrow, G. Bollen Trustee & A. Pearce Trustee Constitute Committee 

Trades & Labour Delegates be Bros W. Goldsmith & G. Bollen Carried

Good Friday Dinner held over till next meeting.

  Minutes of the Newhaven Special Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday 2nd Dec 1923

Bro. W. Goldsmith in the Chair

Members present

Bros. C. Barrow, L. Lower, C. Wilson, B. Piddlesden, W. Brown, F. Sherwin, A. Pearce, M. Smith, W. Smith, 

W. Goldsmith, A. Charman, E. Hillman & D. Boyle

The above meeting being called in accordance with Rule 39 Clause 8.

The minutes of the annual meeting held on the Nov. 25th were not read. This special meeting being called for requested for the purpose of recinding the said minutes, because some members left the room without properly requesting the Chair to do so, before the business of the Branch was complete, and so causing confusion. 

Bro. F. Sherwin, briefly summarised the event which lead to this ultimate  confusion.

Moved Bro. A. Pearce & seconded by Bro. F. Sherwin. That the minutes of the annual meeting be recinded. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. F. Sherwin and seconded by Bro. C. Barrow. That the Branch proceed with the re election of Officers. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded Bro. L. Lower. That Bro. W. Goldsmith be re-elected, not carried.

Proposed by Bro. G. Bollen and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That Bro. A. Pearce take the Chair. Carried.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday 30th Dec 1923

Bro. G. Bollen in the Chair

Members present

Bros C. Wilson, C. Barrow, E. Brooker, J. Green, P. Reed, G. Bollen A. Charman & W. Smith

Minutes of last meeting read and accepted as a true record.

Correspondence read and discussed, Executive Committee Report and minutes for period between October 1st and 27th presented.

Bro. W. Smith reported that the Chairman of the N.U.R. was awaiting an audience which was received with a rather mixed feeling and owning to a misunderstanding the meeting dispersed before it was discovered that the he had bee waiting for over an hour.

Proposed by Bro. C. Barrow and seconded Bro. L.  Lower. That Bro. W. Goldsmith be re-elected, not carried.

Proposed by Bro. G. Bollen and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That Bro. A. Pearce take the Chair. Carried.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting 

held at the White Hart on Sunday January 30th 1924

8 Members present

Bros. C. Wilson, C. Barrow, E. Brooker, J. Green, 

P. Reed, G. Bollen, A. Charman & W. Smith.

Bro. W. Smith reported that the Chairman of the N.U.R. Was awaiting an audience which was received with a rather mixed feeling and owning to a misunderstanding the meeting dispersed before it was discovered that he had been waiting for over an hour.

Proposed by Bro. A. Pearce and seconded by Bro. F. Harris. That a meeting of the Social Committee be fixed for February 10th to make arrangements. Carried

Proposed by Bro. D. Thompsett & sec. by Bro. C. Barrow. That Mr Coker be given for of the Loder Hut during the Strike. Carried.

Proposed by Bro. L. Lower & sec. by Bro. W. Smith. That Bro. C. Dotterill be paid his wages for 29th Jan. as it was necessary that he should be in attendance when the Hut was handed over after the strike. 

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday February 24th 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes of Feb, 3rd read and discussed, moved by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That they will be accepted as a true record. Carried.

Correspondence read and discussed

Shed representatives requested to take up with the Foreman in connection with several matters including the following.

Passing more men, engine disposal allowance, re-arrangement of working, H. Hamblin's uniform not yet received yet 

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday March 30^th 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

Minutes of last meet read and discussed, accepted as a true record.

Arising out of minutes of Feb 24: Secretary reported interview of Shed Representatives with Foreman which was to the effect that, in connection with rearrangement of the duty list he was waiting to hear from the N.U.R.

He had asked for two more firemen to be passed, four more cleaners & taking on four more cleaners.

Correspondence read and discussed

Also Bro. W. Brown's request for back pay for acting as Stores man from October 7th 1919 - to March 8th 1921, which the Foreman disputed.

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday April 27th 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

9 Members present

Bros. F. Brown, F. Sherwin, P. Reed, M. Smith, W. Brown, L. Lower, C. Dotterill, A. Pearce & D. Boyle.

Minutes of last meeting read and discussed, moved by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That they be accepted as a true record.

Arising out of minutes of march 30^th questions of duty list and need for the passing of more men was further discussed at considerable length, and seeing that the Foreman would be retiring, it was agreed that these questions should be remain in abeyance. Also agreed that Bro. W. Brown's case should be proceeded with.

Correspondence read and discussed.

Any Other Business

Questions of Shed Representation was debated at some length and also the N.U.R. Loco-men should be approached with the view to calling an open meeting in connection with same which eventually led to a proposition by Bro F. Sherwin & seconded by Bro F. Brown. That a letter be sent to the N.U.R. Asking if they will be in favour of calling an open meeting for Loco-men for the purposed of considering the business of selecting Shed Representatives. Carried.

Pro by L. Lower & sec by Bro. B. Peddlesden. That Bros. F. Sherwin & F. Wilmshurst be appointed. Carried.

It was the agreed that the May meeting be held upon June 1st instead of My 25th.

  Minutes of the Newhaven Branch May Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 1st 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

12 Members present 

Bros. A. Pearce, P. Reed, E. Brooker, F. Wilmshurst, C. Barrow, C. Wilson, W. Brown, 

L. Lower, G. Bollen, H. Bowden, G. Christmas & D. Boyle

Chairman read minutes of April 27th, proposed by Bro. P. Reed that they be accepted as a true record seconded by Bro. L. Lower. carried

Proposed by Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Seconded by Bro. H. Christmas. That the minutes of the Special Meeting of May 18th be accepted as a true record. Carried

Proposed by Bro. F. Wilmshurst & Seconded by Bro. H. Christmas. That Bros. Boyle & Pearce interview the Foreman, (Brown), in connection with Shed representation, and place all correspondence concerning the same between ourselves and the N.U.R. before him.

Any Other Business 

The Secretary reprimanded for not aquaisiting the Branch with the developments in the local Labour Party in the endeavour to secure premisses for a Working Men's Club. The Secretary's reply being, that owning to the very limited interest taken in the past in affairs of Trades Council and local Labour Party by this Branch, there had hardly been sufficent support to keep in touch with such of any other developments. The Secretary apologised for such a lapse of memory, in connection with such an important item.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday June 29th 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

10 Members present

Bros. F. Wilmshurst, A. Pearce, L. lower, B. Piddlesden, W. Brown, C. Barrow, G. Bollen, A. Charman, 

P. Reed & D. Thompsett.

Minutes of previous meeting read and discussed, proposed by Bro. L. Lower and seconded by Bro. W. Brown. That they be accepted as a true record. Carried.

Arising out of the minutes. The minutes re shed representation discussed at some length. The Secretary reprimanded for not having made it convenient to interview the foreman on the matter, when it was further agreed that the resolution be given effect to.

Chairman leaves the Chair and voice the unfairness of the present position in relation to the of promotion at some other Depots:- supported by Bro. L. Lower.

Bro. F. Wilmshurst informed the Branch that the acting Foreman Brown, had written to ask to come and have a discussion upon the matter of shortage of men with a view to passing of more.

Agreed that Bro. A. Pearce & A. Charman be appointed to interview the Foreman in respect of promotion at this Depot.

It was also generally agreed that the situation here in connection with promotion, and shortage of men to properly caver any special working and illness was entirely due to the late Foreman reporting that he had a redundancy of men after the war.

New member proposed by Bro F. Harris & sec. by Bro. C. Wilson. That T. Potter be admitted. Carried.

Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting

held at the White Hart on Sunday July 27th 1924

Bro. A. Pearce in the Chair

10 Members present

 Bros. A. Pearce, L. Lower, B. Piddlesden, A. Charman, W. Brown, C. Wilson, C. Barrow,

 F. Sherwin, J. Giles & D. Thompsett

Minutes of previous meeting read and discussed, adopted as a true record on the motion of Bro. B. Piddlesden and seconded by Bro. A. Charman.

Arising out of previous minute re interview with Brown the then acting Foreman upon which Bro. A. Pearce gave a report, in the course of which fact that Brown rather inclined to the view that the N.U.R. should be equally represented upon the L.D.C.

The Secretary (being requested by Bro A. Charman to deputised for him) and Bro. A. Pearce then asked for his (Brown’s) interpretation re “L.D.C.'s” and after a little discussion upon the point he agreed to make further enquires.

In connection with promotion here he remarked that “we had only Holten to thank , this was followed by a very animated controversy as to how the question of setting the Shed Representation upon a constitutional basis should be proceeded with.”

With the following result that. Bro. C. Barrow proposed and Bro. F. Sherwin seconded. That Secretary be instructed to write the N.U.R. With a view to making arrangements for an open meeting for Loco-men being held. After further discussion upon the resolution;

Bro. L. Lower moved and Bro. C. Wilson seconded as an amendment. That seeing (as some of our members were well aware) according to their several conversations, that the N.U.R. Element would he satisfied with one representative, that arrangements be made accordingly instead of an open meeting.

The amendment being lost, the resolution was declared carried.

Bro. F. Sherwin withdrew from his nomination, Br. L. Lower nominated in his place.

Agreed that the recently approved Drivers be given their positions on the motors as soon as possible. 

Also agreed that Bro. Ryder of Plastow Branch be nominated for the position of additional organiser.

Bro. B. Piddlesden complained of having to clean half an engine, call 6 or 7 pair of men which often entailed walking distance such as from East side to Norman R.2 in addition to coaling. 

 Minutes of the Newhaven Branch Meeting